Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Thank you, Rich. I live my life as a ministry, entirely in service. Previously I spent nearly 25 years in high tech, as an entrepreneur primarily. I made a complete transition in every area of my life, first beginning with my exposure to RF in 1997, then subsequently into the ministry in 1999. I do have a fairly nice math/science background, and I spend quite a lot of time and energy on an ongoing basis learning about certain aspects of biology, health, nutrition, etc. I also have at least some working familiarity with some of the underlying physics and, to a lesser extent, chemistry, as well as some of the applied math (statistical modeling techniques, experimental design models) commonly used in health and nutritional research (among others). So I can at least figure out what's being said in journal articles and such. And I've always had a great gift for " connecting the dots, " for perceiving relationships that others may miss. I'm continually amazed at how much " science " and " research " is founded upon mountains of assumptions, conjecture, and just plain assertions and " religious " beliefs. I have come to perceive much of what we call experimental or research science, as these exist today, as a massive, government sanctioned and funded religious establishment. There is a clear, well-articulated belief system underneath the whole thing. There is no research design -- no double-blind study, no analytical method -- that can remove certain massive, systemic biases that predominate in the scientific community. EXAMPLE: Science and its followers almost universally believe that genes are the primary causal force for many conditions, including much disease, health, personal capacities, etc. This belief is well documented, it is referred to as the " Primacy of DNA " and it is also known as the " central dogma " (their words, not mine) of biology. Yet, this belief is no more defensible than a belief that the earth is flat. Genes are not self-activating. They can no more cause anything to happen than your car can turn itself on and drive to the store for you. In fact, ample research shows clearly that genes are only activated in response to signals from the environment within and without the cell. Further, our genetic material includes certain proteins, enzymes that have been labeled " transcriptase. " These enzymes are known to rewrite the genetic code itself, in response to specific needs not taken into account by existing genetic codes. In other words, our genetic codes are themselves adaptive, within some bounds, in each generation. This is not surprising. We have witnessed countless microorganisms mutate adaptively in response to our poisons and other attempts to manipulate and control the environment. Why would our species be otherwise? The point is that ANY research predicated upon this belief, that genes are inherently causal is immediately and fatally flawed to at least some extent. Doesn't matter who is blind, how many Ph.D.s, or whatever. Anyway, sorry to go off on a tangent, but thought it might be interesting to share. Best to all, Elchanan Froggy [seconaphim] Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:42 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Two Months Raw I'm here to serve. As to the rest, very interesting. We certainly do have very active bodies. To know all these kinds of things you post about you must be involved with the sciences in some way, work in that area? Rich rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo@e...> wrote: > Hi Froggy, > > Thanks for your thoughtful replies, and for your great question below. > > What does this line mean? " If your digestive system is working, other > systems are working, too. " What are the other systems that are > working that you are referring to? > > Of course, this varies somewhat depending upon what you eat, food already in > the digestive tube, food combining. Following are some general thoughts: > > - Nervous system - just directing and monitoring > - Endocrine system - the HPA axis, particularly the pancreas, is probably > activated, at a minimum. Possible adrenal involvement, depending upon what > you ate and your metabolic vitality. > - Various organs - liver, spleen, gall bladder, etc. The gall bladder and > liver carry much of the load in initial fat digestion. > - Lymphatic system - As a generalization, fats are processed through the > lymphatic system before becoming metabolically useful. This is a primary > reason why it takes so much longer to " digest " fats, they are processed > through two systems. Interestingly, almost no one places any focus on the > lymphatic system. Yet we have 4 times as much lymphatic fluid as blood!!! > Lymph is what gives meat its " juiciness, " in large part. > -Lungs/respiratory system - both bringing in the large quantity of oxygen > required for digestion, absorption, and assimilation, and also to remove the > light acid metabolic waste (e.g., carbonic acid as carbon dioxide). > - Eliminative (urinary) - metabolic waste removal > - Colon (lower digestive) - digestive waste removal > > There are more, of course, but these are a reasonable beginning. > > Best, > Elchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Glad you stopped by. What have you been doing since '97 as far as raw food? What kind of minister are you? you say you went " into the ministry " in '99. As a creature of God, man is drawn to religiosity in all that he does regardless of his unconscious knowledge of such things. He can't help but bring religion into what he does, his relationship with God is the most important thing in his life whether he realizes it or not and whether he consciously tries to cultivate it or not. That is the drawing power of God, that is the will of the Father and no force can temper that will. So, of course, people are going to put religion, spiritual beliefs and practices, God, however you want to phrase it, into whatever they do, including the government. Rich rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo@e...> wrote: > Thank you, Rich. > > I live my life as a ministry, entirely in service. Previously I spent nearly > 25 years in high tech, as an entrepreneur primarily. I made a complete > transition in every area of my life, first beginning with my exposure to RF > in 1997, then subsequently into the ministry in 1999. > > I do have a fairly nice math/science background, and I spend quite a lot of > time and energy on an ongoing basis learning about certain aspects of > biology, health, nutrition, etc. I also have at least some working > familiarity with some of the underlying physics and, to a lesser extent, > chemistry, as well as some of the applied math (statistical modeling > techniques, experimental design models) commonly used in health and > nutritional research (among others). So I can at least figure out what's > being said in journal articles and such. And I've always had a great gift > for " connecting the dots, " for perceiving relationships that others may > miss. > > I'm continually amazed at how much " science " and " research " is founded upon > mountains of assumptions, conjecture, and just plain assertions and > " religious " beliefs. I have come to perceive much of what we call > experimental or research science, as these exist today, as a massive, > government sanctioned and funded religious establishment. There is a clear, > well-articulated belief system underneath the whole thing. There is no > research design -- no double-blind study, no analytical method -- that can > remove certain massive, systemic biases that predominate in the scientific > community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Glad you stopped by. What have you been in raw food circles since '97? What ministry did you join in '99? Religion is, of course, going to creep into everything people do. We're the children of God, like it or not, and a connection with God, albeit often immature in its expression, is going to find it's way into all that we do, including the scientific community and government. To me, that's the drawing power of God to understand him and it's inexorable. Rich rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo@e...> wrote: > Thank you, Rich. > > I live my life as a ministry, entirely in service. Previously I spent nearly > 25 years in high tech, as an entrepreneur primarily. I made a complete > transition in every area of my life, first beginning with my exposure to RF > in 1997, then subsequently into the ministry in 1999. > > I do have a fairly nice math/science background, and I spend quite a lot of > time and energy on an ongoing basis learning about certain aspects of > biology, health, nutrition, etc. I also have at least some working > familiarity with some of the underlying physics and, to a lesser extent, > chemistry, as well as some of the applied math (statistical modeling > techniques, experimental design models) commonly used in health and > nutritional research (among others). So I can at least figure out what's > being said in journal articles and such. And I've always had a great gift > for " connecting the dots, " for perceiving relationships that others may > miss. > > I'm continually amazed at how much " science " and " research " is founded upon > mountains of assumptions, conjecture, and just plain assertions and > " religious " beliefs. I have come to perceive much of what we call > experimental or research science, as these exist today, as a massive, > government sanctioned and funded religious establishment. There is a clear, > well-articulated belief system underneath the whole thing. There is no > research design -- no double-blind study, no analytical method -- that can > remove certain massive, systemic biases that predominate in the scientific > community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 been doing rawfood , " Froggy " <seconaphim> wrote: > > Glad you stopped by. What have you been in raw food circles > since '97? What ministry did you join in '99? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Thanks. The ministry I serve as Chaplain is called Vibrant Life, or its relative Vibrant Living Ministries. It's about liberty, self-expression, vitality, abundance, connection with self and with Divinity, etc. It is, on one hand, deeply rooted in older sacred texts and ideas, and on the other, profoundly contemporary and forward reaching. I actually teach people, who express genuine interest, how to transform their lives into a living ministry, in law, finance, family, vitality/health/nutrition, etc. A very holistic way of life. I, too, feel drawn back into connection with Divinity. And I feel called, in a clear way, to serve, as ekklesia, one called out by Divine guidance to serve. Thanks for asking. Elchanan Froggy [seconaphim] Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:30 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] The nature of science Glad you stopped by. What have you been in raw food circles since '97? What ministry did you join in '99? Religion is, of course, going to creep into everything people do. We're the children of God, like it or not, and a connection with God, albeit often immature in its expression, is going to find it's way into all that we do, including the scientific community and government. To me, that's the drawing power of God to understand him and it's inexorable. Rich rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo@e...> wrote: > Thank you, Rich. > > I live my life as a ministry, entirely in service. Previously I spent nearly > 25 years in high tech, as an entrepreneur primarily. I made a complete > transition in every area of my life, first beginning with my exposure to RF > in 1997, then subsequently into the ministry in 1999. > > I do have a fairly nice math/science background, and I spend quite a lot of > time and energy on an ongoing basis learning about certain aspects of > biology, health, nutrition, etc. I also have at least some working > familiarity with some of the underlying physics and, to a lesser extent, > chemistry, as well as some of the applied math (statistical modeling > techniques, experimental design models) commonly used in health and > nutritional research (among others). So I can at least figure out what's > being said in journal articles and such. And I've always had a great gift > for " connecting the dots, " for perceiving relationships that others may > miss. > > I'm continually amazed at how much " science " and " research " is founded upon > mountains of assumptions, conjecture, and just plain assertions and > " religious " beliefs. I have come to perceive much of what we call > experimental or research science, as these exist today, as a massive, > government sanctioned and funded religious establishment. There is a clear, > well-articulated belief system underneath the whole thing. There is no > research design -- no double-blind study, no analytical method -- that can > remove certain massive, systemic biases that predominate in the scientific > community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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