Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Does anyone know how I could make raw cottage cheese or order it? I have access to raw goat and cow milk being raised by friends of mine. Thanks, Lulu Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Hi Lulu, Very simple operation. Let the milk sour and separates into curds and whey then hang it in cheese cloth to drain the whey in the case of cows milk, or for goats milk, old sheeting as it requires something with finer holes. When it has drained to your satisfaction, some prefer it moister than others, it is ready to use. Some cultures use only the skimmed milk for making cottage cheese. John John L. Fielder Osteopath & Lifestyle Consultant Academy of Natural Living www.iig.com.au/anl Alouette Mayer wrote: > > Does anyone know how I could make raw cottage cheese > or order it? I have access to raw goat and cow milk > being raised by friends of mine. > > Thanks, Lulu > > > > > > Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! > Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > http://birthday./netrospective/ > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Come on John, you know better than this, didn't tev scare you off sufficiently? From our homepage: " This group is here to support people wanting to learn how to eat a Healthy Raw Food Diet. Just because something is raw doesn't necessarily mean it is the best thing for us. This group supports a Vegan Raw Food Diet. Please don't come here trying to promote other diets. " Dear Lulu, I'm glad you stopped by but you may have better luck with your question, and no antagonism from people like me, if you take your question to a site such as www.Raw-food Raw-food · Raw Animal and/or Vegetable Foods Description Category: Fitness and Nutrition Raw-food is a group for discussing of any aspect of eating raw foods from either animal or vegetable kingdom or both. You don't have to be a follower of any particular existing raw food regimen to join the group. You don't have to be 100% raw. Anybody, regardless of background, knowledge, dietary habit, viewpoint, attitude, etc, is allowed to join the group and share his or her thoughts. Rules are simple: stick to the subject. I think that last sentence applies to us as well. I was going to mention this earlier but I didn't. Rich rawfood , " John L. Fielder " <academy.natural.living@i...> wrote: > Hi Lulu, > > Very simple operation. Let the milk sour and separates into curds and > whey then hang it in cheese cloth to drain the whey in the case of cows > milk, or for goats milk, old sheeting as it requires something with > finer holes. When it has drained to your satisfaction, some prefer it > moister than others, it is ready to use. > > Some cultures use only the skimmed milk for making cottage cheese. > > > > John > > John L. Fielder > Osteopath & Lifestyle Consultant > Academy of Natural Living > www.iig.com.au/anl > > > > Alouette Mayer wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know how I could make raw cottage cheese > > or order it? I have access to raw goat and cow milk > > being raised by friends of mine. > > > > Thanks, Lulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Another refreshing six hours sleep and I'm up, bright-eyed and bushy tailed for another exciting raw day. And what a great way to start my day, by sharing with my friends on here. Where's Diana of DH with her raw vegan substitute kefir recipe? Maybe you have the same for raw cottage cheese, Diana? I'll discuss the pros and cons of any raw eating behavior or lifestyle at www.rawfoodeaters. Rich rawfood , " John L. Fielder " <academy.natural.living@i...> wrote: > Hi Froggy, > > My apologies. I see that I should have answered the question off- list. > There was no intention to promote anything on my part, only to answer > Lulu's question. > > John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 The way society kills animals or pens them up and takes their products is simply unnecessary cruelty and harmful to people's bodies and the environment. Of course, their is no right way to kill an animal or take it's products if you don't have to. From www.milksucks.com: MILK SUCKS... FOR THE ANIMALS: Corporate-owned factories where cows are warehoused in huge sheds and treated like milk machines have replaced most small family farms. With genetic manipulation and intensive production technologies, it is common for modern dairy cows to produce 100 pounds of milk a day— 10 times more than they would produce in nature. To keep milk production as high as possible, farmers artificially inseminate cows every year. Growth hormones and unnatural milking schedules cause dairy cows' udders to become painful and so heavy that they sometimes drag on the ground, resulting in frequent infections and overuse of antibiotics. Cows -- like all mammals -- make milk to feed their own babies -- not humans. Male calves, the " byproducts " of the dairy industry, endure 14 to17 weeks of torment in veal crates so small that they can't even turn around. Female calves often replace their old, worn-out mothers, or are slaughtered soon after birth for the rennet in their stomachs (an ingredient of most commercial cheeses). They are often kept in tiny crates or tethered in stalls for the first few months of their lives, only to grow up to become " milk machines " like their mothers. FOR THE ENVIRONMENT: Cow's milk is an inefficient food source. Cows, like humans, expend the majority of their food intake simply leading their lives. It takes a great deal of grain and other foodstuffs cycled through cows to produce a small amount of milk. And not only is milk a waste of energy and water, the production of milk is also a disastrous source of water pollution. A dairy cow produces 120 pounds of waste every day -- equal to that of two dozen people, but with no toilets, sewers, or treatment plants. In Lancaster County, Pa., manure from dairy cows is destroying the Chesapeake Bay, and in California, which produces one-fifth of the country's total supply of milk, the manure from dairy farms has poisoned vast expanses of underground water, rivers, and streams. In the Central Valley of California, the cows produce as much excrement as a city of 21 million people, and even a smallish farm of 200 cows will produce as much nitrogen as in the sewage from a community of 5,000 to 10,000 people, according to a U.S. Senate report on animal waste. FOR YOUR HEALTH: Dairy products are a health hazard. They contain no fiber or complex carbohydrates and are laden with saturated fat and cholesterol. They are contaminated with cow's blood and pus and are frequently contaminated with pesticides, hormones, and antibiotics. Dairy products are linked to allergies, constipation, obesity, heart disease, cancer, and other diseases. The late Dr. Benjamin Spock, America's leading authority on child care, spoke out against feeding cow's milk to children, saying it can cause anemia, allergies, and insulin-dependent diabetes and in the long term, will set kids up for obesity and heart disease, America's number one cause of death. And dairy products may actually cause osteoporosis, not prevent it, since their high-protein content leaches calcium from the body. Population studies, backed up by a groundbreaking Harvard study of more than 75,000 nurses, suggest that drinking milk can actually cause osteoporosis. Find out more by visiting our links page. WHAT YOU CAN DO: According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the average American consumes more than 550 pounds of dairy products annually, which is 40 percent of the bulk of the food we eat. Click here to see an illustration of the " Food Pyramid " which is representative of actual American eating habits. Give the bottle the boot! > > > Alouette Mayer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how I could make raw cottage cheese > > > > or order it? I have access to raw goat and cow milk > > > > being raised by friends of mine. > > > > > > > > Thanks, Lulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 More truisms about the pathetic behavior of eating animal products. These kinds of messages don't mean much to the average dense person who isn't capable of taking these kinds of things seriously at all because of their own conscious and unconscious desires for animal products. From http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/08/27/dairy_farms/index_np.html Got guilt? Dairy workers grub for minimum wage in sickening manure pits -- so American consumers can have cheap milk and cheese. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Rebecca Clarren Aug. 27, 2004 | WEST SALEM, Ore. -- Lazing cows dot the rolling hills of the picturesque Willamette River valley, and the air smells sweet of grass and manure. But this sunny image masks a grim reality for dairy workers like Arturo Ramirez. For six years, Ramirez's duties included maintaining a pump that sprayed liquid dung onto the fields as fertilizer. To get to the pump, he had to walk waist deep in manure across a pit as long as a swimming pool. Wading through manure isn't like walking through water: The sludge is heavy, the rotten-egg smell of hydrogen sulfide rises off the slick surface, and if you're unlucky, you can slip and drown. Ramirez didn't die in the manure pit -- a fate met by three workers in California -- but as he waded through the waste of 380 cows, it slid into his knee-high boots. Because it's impossible to completely scrub away the bacteria from manure, Ramirez passed a skin infection on to his wife and her two daughters. - - - - - - - - - - - - Want to read the rest of this article and all of Salon for FREE?. Just watch a brief advertisement to get a FREE Site Pass for today. There's no registration required. Or you can join Salon Premium today and read Salon without ads. Just choose one of the two options below. If you don't see the images below please check your ad blocking software or use these text links to log in, join Salon Premium or get a Site Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Hi Froggy, My apologies. I see that I should have answered the question off-list. There was no intention to promote anything on my part, only to answer Lulu's question. John Froggy wrote: > > Come on John, you know better than this, didn't tev scare you off > sufficiently? From our homepage: " This group is here to support > people wanting to learn how to eat a Healthy Raw Food Diet. Just > because something is raw doesn't necessarily mean it is the best > thing for us. This group supports a Vegan Raw Food Diet. Please don't > come here trying to promote other diets. " > > Dear Lulu, I'm glad you stopped by but you may have better luck with > your question, and no antagonism from people like me, if you take > your question to a site such as www.Raw-food > > Raw-food · Raw Animal and/or Vegetable Foods > Description Category: Fitness and Nutrition > Raw-food is a group for discussing of any aspect of eating raw foods > from either animal or vegetable kingdom or both. You don't have to be > a follower of any particular existing raw food regimen to join the > group. You don't have to be 100% raw. Anybody, regardless of > background, knowledge, dietary habit, viewpoint, attitude, etc, is > allowed to join the group and share his or her thoughts. > > Rules are simple: stick to the subject. > > I think that last sentence applies to us as well. I was going to > mention this earlier but I didn't. > > Rich > > rawfood , " John L. Fielder " > <academy.natural.living@i...> wrote: > > Hi Lulu, > > > > Very simple operation. Let the milk sour and separates into curds > and > > whey then hang it in cheese cloth to drain the whey in the case of > cows > > milk, or for goats milk, old sheeting as it requires something with > > finer holes. When it has drained to your satisfaction, some prefer > it > > moister than others, it is ready to use. > > > > Some cultures use only the skimmed milk for making cottage cheese. > > > > > > > > John > > > > John L. Fielder > > Osteopath & Lifestyle Consultant > > Academy of Natural Living > > www.iig.com.au/anl > > > > > > > > Alouette Mayer wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how I could make raw cottage cheese > > > or order it? I have access to raw goat and cow milk > > > being raised by friends of mine. > > > > > > Thanks, Lulu > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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