RE: Soy, raw milk, emotional eating [s]

[Guest guest]

I wrote on this several weeks ago, happy to repeat a few of those comments

here. I see a couple of issues lying within this topic.

 

First, nut milk over soy milk, always. Soy is a legume, a bean. And like all

beans, it MUST be processed before we can use it as " human food. " When faced

with perennial surpluses, the American pig industry " discovered " that soy

could be popularized as " human food. " The first soyaburger dates from at

least 1953. Of course, soy has been used as tofu etc. for centuries in the

East.

 

Of all the major plant proteins, soy protein most closely resembles animal

protein in several respects. In particular, if I recall correctly, the most

acidic of the amino acids, methionine, is abundant in all animal foods

(flesh and dairy) and also in soy (sulfur). We need a TINY quantity of

sulfur, but when we eat foods high in sulfur in any significant quantity, we

OD on the stuff, and acidify our bodies. This demands an alkalizing

response, cannibalizing valuable alkaline minerals from other

organs/functions. So soy in any quantity is acidifying to our bodies.

 

Cultivated/commercially grown soy is very high in oil, and in particular

contains a large amount of linolenic acid, a fatty acid considered

undesirable in any quantity.

 

Second, transitioning to raw food, etc. Within the RF world, most programs

for " transitioning " emphasize foods that are " just like " the cooked foods

with which we are familiar. So we have raw cookies, cakes, cheeses, burgers,

even fries and ketchup!!! And we have raw milks. But if the shortest

distance between 2 points really is a straight line, then we might wish to

reconsider this whole approach to transitioning.

 

An obvious alternative is simply to begin eating those foods that will

likely comprise our long-term RF diet. In other words, just begin living the

way we say we are to live. I realize that some might regard this as " radical

thinking. " And certainly all those existing cravings need to be addressed.

But in my experience, virtually all food cravings arise as expressions of

unresolved and/or unexpressed emotions. That is, most food cravings are

self-limiting and even self-defeating ways of trying to meet certain,

usually rather specific, emotional needs.

 

For many people, food has become their best friend, quite literally. It's

available 24x7, never talks back (at least not until AFTER you've eaten it),

etc. For many, food has become a refuge, a safe place. We can use food to

numb ourselves, so that we feel nothing. (But that only works until we

encounter the next triggering event for that emotion, and often that next

triggering event is only minutes or hours away.) We can use food and also

acts of elaborate food preparation as a distractions when we are bored. And

so on.

 

So there is a great need for most of us to focus on meeting these emotional

needs in more constructive, self-supportive, life-affirming ways. IF PEOPLE

ARE INTERESTED IN THIS TOPIC, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I'LL OFFER SOME

SPECIFIC IDEAS. Otherwise, I'll treat this as " off-topic. "

 

Third, there is the issue of milk per se. All mammals nurse their newborns,

that is a defining characteristic of mammals. And each mammalian species

weans its young, after which no further milk is consumed (unless fed by

humans). Further, I am aware of NO species other than our own (and the

animals we feed) that consumes the milk of another species.

 

I raise this issue not because I believe nut milk itself resembles animal

milk -- it does not -- but rather because I believe that use of any " milk "

underlies a whole approach to eating that may be counterproductive, or at

least suboptimal. This is based in large part upon my own observations. In

addition, nut milk is basically high-fat, flavored water. Many people add

sweetness (dates) or even vanilla to " improve " the flavor of the basic nut

milk. This suggests that many people don't really find the stuff palatable

on its own. In any event, we have sugar and fat in combination, a surefire

recipe for fermentation in the gut.

 

Alternative: look at the meals, specific foods, emotions that typically

accompany your (desire for) " milk. " Can you eat in a way such that you can

simply drop out the milk?

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

 

 

 

 

Gypsi at www.aromaticwings.com [aromatic_wings]

Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:20 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] RE: Smoothies, food combining

 

 

 

Wonderful info.. thanks you...

 

Now can I ask about soy milk? Such as the soy milk Slik?? can this be used

or would you suggest almond milk or rice milk instead?? I love

Silk..especially the one with the omega 3's///

 

" INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote:

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

" So there is a great need for most of us to focus on meeting

these emotional

needs in more constructive, self-supportive, life-affirming

ways. "

 

I'd like to hear more about this, Elchanan. Please provide

additional info. Thanks!

 

 

All the best,

 

Jennifer

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

yes, but sometimes just want that yummy creaminess of milk in a smoothie but

i'll make myself to not need it

 

" INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote:Can you eat in a way such

that you can

simply drop out the milk?

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

milk tastes like urine.

 

rawfood , " Gypsi at www.aromaticwings.com "

<aromatic_wings> wrote:

>

> yes, but sometimes just want that yummy creaminess of milk in a

smoothie but i'll make myself to not need it

[Guest guest]

Well, this actually brings us to an interesting aspect of emotional eating.

We humans seem to have a strong aversion to being told " no, " even by

ourselves. Will say more, but for now, I'll just suggest that we all treat

ourselves gently and with compassion, rather than with force.

 

Best,

Elchanan

 

Gypsi at www.aromaticwings.com [aromatic_wings]

Saturday, March 12, 2005 7:51 PM

rawfood

RE: [Raw Food] Soy, raw milk, emotional eating

 

 

 

yes, but sometimes just want that yummy creaminess of milk in a smoothie

but i'll make myself to not need it

 

" INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote:Can you eat in a way such

that you can

simply drop out the milk?

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone - I wanted to introduce myself - I am reading everything with

great interest and l have learned so much recently on the Internet about raw

foods and whole foods and sprouting seeds and all that stuff - that is

where i discovered this group of course.

 

Anyway - I just wanted to say I am here and reading and learning and

starting to put some of what i have learned into practice - thanks to all

 

Lynne (in England)

 

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Jennifer

03/13/05 11:31:34

rawfood

RE: [Raw Food] Soy, raw milk, emotional eating

" So there is a great need for most of us to focus on meeting

these emotional

needs in more constructive, self-supportive, life-affirming

ways. "

I'd like to hear more about this, Elchanan. Please provide

additional info. Thanks!

All the best,

Jennifer