Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Hi everyone, Sorry for my poor recordkeeping in this instance. Someone asked me to look at the web page www.womenfitness.net/shed_pounds.htm - a web site on herbs and offer comments. I no longer have the requestor's name, my apology. From the first page of the site: _____ There are herbs you can add to your <http://www.womenfitness.net/slim_down_naturally.htm> diet as <http://www.womenfitness.net/stop_clock.htm> supplements, teas, and foods that will help your <http://www.womenfitness.net/wf9months.htm> weight loss program go smoothly. Besides, there are several herbs which contain sympathomimetics and xanthine compounds synergistically increase the body's <http://www.womenfitness.net/bmr.htm> basal metabolic rate to increase the burning of calories and <http://www.womenfitness.net/fat_foods.htm> fat, act as mild stimulants, and suppress the appetite. The action of certain <http://www.womenfitness.net/herbs/herbs_index.htm> herbs " trick " the brain into thinking the stomach is full. Herbs that cause <http://www.womenfitness.net/shed_pounds.htm#> weight loss can be classified as: 1. Stimulants: encourage the body to burn more calories. 2. Diuretics: cause the body to excrete water through excess urine. 3. Cathartics: cause evacuation of the bowels, reduce calorie consumption by impeding full digestion. 4. Appetite suppressants: reduce hunger by expanding in the stomach, altering mood, or satisfying taste. _____ From my perspective, the use of herbs for medicinal purposes constitutes an intrusion into the body's own cleansing and healing process. As with cleanses, it is an attempt through our conscious mind to " help " or really to redirect or override out innate intelligence, our biological programming. There is no such thing as an Echinacea deficiency, that is, no lack of Echinacea ever caused any illness or disease. The same applies to all medicinal herbs. Here is an experience, related to me by my dear friend and teacher, Ray Kent. Once, a woman came to Ray with severe ovarian problems, the doctors wanted to cut out her ovaries. Ray suggested that she at least TRY fasting first, to see whether her body, if given sufficient rest, might heal itself, The woman agreed and began to fast under Ray's supervision. Several days into the fast, her body began to discharge thick, black material from her vagina. Ray describes this material as resembling crude oil. This continued for several days, and the woman became frightened. She went to a Chinese doctor, who prescribed some herbs. Upon taking these herbs, the discharge ceased. The woman called Ray and exclaimed, " I'm all healed! " She went on to explain what had happened, and that the discharge had stopped. Ray then explained to the woman that the herb was sufficiently toxic to her body that it had no choice but to stop cleansing the reproductive system, and shift resources instead toward eliminating the herb. Cessation of the REAL cleansing process, the one going on the woman's reproductive system, meant cessation of the discharge. Ray urged the woman to continue fasting and cease taking the herb, and she agreed. Within a day or two, the discharge resumed, and it continued for a number of days. At some point, it slowed, then stopped. The elimination process was complete. A few additional days of fasting, followed by a healthy diet and lifestyle, enable the woman's body to completely heal her reproductive system, and to this day she still has her ovaries!! What, in my opinion, is the crucial point here? At one point in the experience, this woman finally made a decision to trust her own body COMPLETELY. From that moment forward, total cleansing and healing became a matter of course, the only unknown was the timeframe involved. Best to all, Elchanan -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (3181 characters) on 23 March 2005 at 02:36:10 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAAa1kBCbQwAAGgCAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X0PAM s5tHqZwDRxL4KNJ+zI8mj6EgwubHKE31cmddI6IQ== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Ok then... I have been messing with my own body too then according to this analogy... Makes total sense to me... shows me that I have been lieing to myself big time...I drink juce through the am... and or eat fruit ... by 11am my mind tells me that I need something more solid... so I am figuring that ok.. it is noon.. I will eat a salad .. some nuts... then later during the day .. I end up eating a sandwhich.. yup processed yuck.. big no no yup... but for some reason I tell myself (rationalize with myself) that I have over eight hours for it to process and I will be fine... NOT.. the below analogy shows me something... during eating or drinking the fruit juices in the am I have an awful eye running thing going on... always have had this .. sooo I figure allergies... cant get rid of them without eating right..right?? but then I get tired of good food and eat bad.. this stops my allergy eyes... for a bit... then when I go back to eating right again in the evenings... my nose starts running and eyes are a mess again.. itching and running (crying) bad... so this tells me my body stops it's cleaning and getting rid of whatever is making my eyes and nose run to go fight the bigger problem of what I ate that afternoon... the processed stuff... If I would just leave my body alone and do what I should we both would get along just fine... hehehe.... it would get the allergy stuff out and I might end up with dry eyes eventually... and then it could go on to someting else... heavy sigh... geesh.. I'll get this together yet... Again... thanks Elchanan.. for making that LIGHT BULB GO OFF.. again.. I am gonna need sungalsses pretty soon... " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote: .........<snip> What, in my opinion, is the crucial point here? At one point in the experience, this woman finally made a decision to trust her own body COMPLETELY. From that moment forward, total cleansing and healing became a matter of course, the only unknown was the timeframe involved. Best to all, Elchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 YES!!! You've really got it, Gypsi!! I cannot imagine myself wearing a bigger smile! Oh, and just for the record, sunglasses will damage your eyes, don't use them any more than you'd use sunscreen. Always connect directly with Nature, and Nature will connect directly with you. Sounds simple, and it is. Best to all, Elchanan Gypsi at www.aromaticwings.com [aromatic_wings] Tuesday, March 22, 2005 8:38 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Herbs ( " crude oil " example) Ok then... I have been messing with my own body too then according to this analogy... Makes total sense to me... shows me that I have been lieing to myself big time...I drink juce through the am... and or eat fruit ... by 11am my mind tells me that I need something more solid... so I am figuring that ok.. it is noon.. I will eat a salad .. some nuts... then later during the day .. I end up eating a sandwhich.. yup processed yuck.. big no no yup... but for some reason I tell myself (rationalize with myself) that I have over eight hours for it to process and I will be fine... NOT.. the below analogy shows me something... during eating or drinking the fruit juices in the am I have an awful eye running thing going on... always have had this .. sooo I figure allergies... cant get rid of them without eating right..right?? but then I get tired of good food and eat bad.. this stops my allergy eyes... for a bit... then when I go back to eating right again in the evenings... my nose starts running and eyes are a mess again.. itching and running (crying) bad... so this tells me my body stops it's cleaning and getting rid of whatever is making my eyes and nose run to go fight the bigger problem of what I ate that afternoon... the processed stuff... If I would just leave my body alone and do what I should we both would get along just fine... hehehe.... it would get the allergy stuff out and I might end up with dry eyes eventually... and then it could go on to someting else... heavy sigh... geesh.. I'll get this together yet... Again... thanks Elchanan.. for making that LIGHT BULB GO OFF.. again.. I am gonna need sungalsses pretty soon... " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote: .........<snip> What, in my opinion, is the crucial point here? At one point in the experience, this woman finally made a decision to trust her own body COMPLETELY. From that moment forward, total cleansing and healing became a matter of course, the only unknown was the timeframe involved. Best to all, Elchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Glad I could make someone happy... I have got the eye crying thing going on at this time... geesh I hate this.... looks like I am crying and it feels awful.. and drying to the eyse and skin around it... seems I am constantly in the bathroom cooling my eyes with water on a washcloth.. this makes my eyes so sensative to light. oh the sunglasses part were for the light bulb moment thing... but good to know... now to just keep my mind from over riding my mouth here... well maybe i should let it over ride it but with good information instead of bad... but grrrrrr sure gets frustrating when one doesn't listen to the other...my " gemini twins " sure do fight each other ... I sit on the sidelines shaking my head like " get a grip please! " " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote:YES!!! You've really got it, Gypsi!! I cannot imagine myself wearing a bigger smile! Oh, and just for the record, sunglasses will damage your eyes, don't use them any more than you'd use sunscreen. Always connect directly with Nature, and Nature will connect directly with you. Sounds simple, and it is. Best to all, Elchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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