RE: sun exposure - animals and sunburn [s]

[Guest guest]

The first article you cite names no animals in particular. The second does,

and they are all animals held in captivity.

 

If you dig deeper, I think you'll find that only those animals in the " care "

of humans, eating the food WE provide, experience such problems. I've

written in previous posts that such animals are all subject to the same

diseases and breakdowns as we, but I did not make that point explicitly in

this particular message. Sorry for the lack of clarity on my part.

 

When our bodies are hyperacidified, and/or when we remove our bodies from

the sun, then we become vulnerable. The axiom " use it or lose it " applies.

Said another way, the body nourishes itself through use.

 

That having been said, for those who bodies ARE acidic and or who have

stayed away from the sun, it is necessary to go back in slowly, in

accordance with one's capacity. Of course, this requires forethought and

patience.

Elchanan

 

sapphireflies [sapphireflies]

Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:59 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] sun exposure - animals and sunburn

 

 

 

 

rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo@e...>

wrote:

 

> The sun fuels all life on this planet. Not one animal in Nature in the

known

> history of the world has ever suffered from sun cancer, or even from sun

> burn, due to sun exposure, except for us humans, and then only in very

> recent time. Melanoma was never an issue from an historical perspective.

 

Actually, some animals can and do get sunburned:

 

http://www.ccmr.cornell.edu/education/ask/?quid=336

 

" Just as clothing and shade protect against sunburn in humans, the

coats of animals such as dense hair and wool do the same. Animals with very

little hair covering such as pigs and their relatives, hippopotamuses and

warthogs are particularly at risk and they often coat themselves with mud to

act as a sunscreen. Rhinoceroses use the same strategy and elephants give

themselves dust-baths. Light-colored animals, newly shorn sheep and

other animals that are clipped can suffer from sunburn and the parts of

animals that normally lack hair cover can be sunburned. "

 

They can get skin cancer, as well:

 

http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/cvmtoday/archive/winter2000/cancerinanimals.htm

 

" Horses sometimes suffer from skin cancer because they are outside in the

sunlight for most of the day. Grey-colored horses are the most frequent

victims

of melanoma. Some cattle, such as whiteface Herefords, which don't have as

much protection from sunlight as other breeds because of their white hair,

also have a higher cancer rate. "

 

-Denise

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Anna writes:

 

Considering that humans have managed to screw up even the ozone, it

wouldn't

surprise me that animals would *begin* to get diseases such as that, at this

 

point in history. i suspect we'll be seeing a lot more of it, even in the

wild.

_____

Reluctantly, I agree. Recent observations indicate that toxins, regardless

of where they originate, are being carried all over the planet in the air,

soil, water, etc. There are some who believe we are already experiencing a

potentially extinction-producing time for our species. I hope they are

incorrect.

 

Elchanan

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Elchanan,

My comments are interspersed below:

 

rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo@e...> wrote:

 

 

> The first article you cite names no animals in particular.

 

The first article said " pigs and their relatives, hippopotamuses and warthogs

are particularly at risk and they often coat themselves with mud to act as a

sunscreen. Rhinoceroses use the same strategy and elephants give

themselves dust-baths. "

 

 

> If you dig deeper, I think you'll find that only those animals in the " care "

> of humans, eating the food WE provide, experience such problems.

 

Here are some reports of wild, non-captive animals experiencing skin cancer:

 

http://www.vetpathology.org/cgi/content/abstract/32/3/318

 

" A rare case of basal cell tumor of the skin in a wild-caught female Japanese

macaque (Macaca fuscata) was studied. Tumor growth, which was composed

of cells resembling basal cells, was observed in the dermis and subcutis and

showed a mixture of ribbon, solid, glandular, and cystic patterns. "

 

http://www.primate.or.jp/etc/tpceng/27.htm

 

" Recently, the following six tumor cases were found out. <snip> Case 3: A-

wild- male green monkey, suspected of the basal cell carcinoma at the chest. "

 

http://www.fdrproject.org/pages/DISother.htm

 

" Cancer in amphibians is considered to be an extremely rare event. However,

four cases were found by CSIRO during their chytrid testing of hundreds of

frogs from eastern Australia. Not intending to outdo the rest of the country,

Cairns has the dubious distinction of already having confirmed seven cases

of squamous cell carcinoma (skin cancer) in local frogs (these are in addition

to what CSIRO has found) and, most recently, at least one case of sebaceous

adenocarcinoma. "

 

And several different sources that mention rhinos being susceptible to

sunburn:

 

http://ladywildlife.com/animal/indianrhino.html

 

" Indian rhinos are vulnerable to sunburn. By wallowing in mud, they protect

their skin form the sun. "

 

http://www.morrisanimalfoundation.org/learn/animals/wildlife/rhino.asp

 

" Rhinos may look indestructible, but their skin is actually quite sensitive,

especially to sunburn and biting insects. That's one reason they wallow in

mud. "

 

 

I'm sure skin cancer is much less common in wild animals than humans, and

diet probably has something to do with it--but it's not the only issue. Animals

with exposed skin don't have the same protection as furred animals, and

consequently, they seem to be the most common victims of sunburn. " Naked "

animals also have habits like rolling in the dust or mud to act as sunscreens.

Even with an excellent diet, I don't think humans can be immune to skin

cancer.

 

Denise

[Guest guest]

These are ALL animals in the care of humans, or at least in contact with

human foods and other output. There is not a single instance of which I am

aware, prior to very recent time, when any of these animals is reported to

have exhibited any such symptoms, however described, by any hunter, soldier,

army doctor, explorer, etc. over the centuries, EXCEPT for those animals for

which we humans provide " care. "

 

It is possible that an extremely rare (1 in billions) genetic malfunction

might occur, such that one or two animals might break down in Nature every

few generations. But in general, these things do not happen without human

intervention, either directly or by the dumping of pollutants into the

environment.

 

In recent years, we ARE beginning to see degenerative conditions among a

small but growing number of animals in the wild. As we dam rivers and fill

the land, air, and water with all manner of toxic chemicals (particularly

very large molecules for which Nature must invent entirely new breakdown

processes), as we damage the ozone layer, change the temperature of the air

and water, etc., we are spreading the effects of our lifestyle to all the

species of the earth. When we destroy the habitat of an animal, it fights to

survive, wouldn't you? So there is also rising violence among many species,

particularly observable in species similar to our own, such as chimpanzees.

Researchers are now finding chemicals, once thought to be confined to

certain areas, in every corner of the globe. There is one planetary

ecosystem, any other conception simply fails.

 

But this is not evidence of defects in Nature's design, there is billions of

years of history and experience there. Rather, it is evidence of our own

present increasing destructiveness among all the species of the Earth.

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

 

 

maureen smith [maureensgardengrotto]

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:46 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] sun exposure - animals and sunburn

 

 

horses get melanoma and do not eat cooked food that i know of.

maureen

 

Lynne <niklyn wrote:

Hello everyone,

I dont really want to get into this too much but I do know of cats, dogs,

horses and pigs that suffer from cancer but all the animals I know of that

do get ill in that way are eating cooked foods in some degree.

 

Dogs that I have known have had their lives cut short from all sorts of

cancers and were all fed on heat treated (cooked) foods as are most farm

animals these days with supplements from all sorts of weird sources - just

look at mad cow disease and what caused that.

Love Lynne

 

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sapphireflies

03/25/05 01:34:29

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] sun exposure - animals and sunburn

rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo@e...>

wrote:

> The sun fuels all life on this planet. Not one animal in Nature in the

known

> history of the world has ever suffered from sun cancer, or even from sun

> burn, due to sun exposure, except for us humans, and then only in very

> recent time. Melanoma was never an issue from an historical perspective.

Actually, some animals can and do get sunburned:

http://www.ccmr.cornell.edu/education/ask/?quid=336

" Just as clothing and shade protect against sunburn in humans, the

coats of animals such as dense hair and wool do the same. Animals with very

little hair covering such as pigs and their relatives, hippopotamuses and

warthogs are particularly at risk and they often coat themselves with mud to

act as a sunscreen. Rhinoceroses use the same strategy and elephants give

themselves dust-baths. Light-colored animals, newly shorn sheep and

other animals that are clipped can suffer from sunburn and the parts of

animals that normally lack hair cover can be sunburned. "

They can get skin cancer, as well:

http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/cvmtoday/archive/winter2000/cancerinanimals.htm

" Horses sometimes suffer from skin cancer because they are outside in the

sunlight for most of the day. Grey-colored horses are the most frequent

victims

of melanoma. Some cattle, such as whiteface Herefords, which don't have as

much protection from sunlight as other breeds because of their white hair,

also have a higher cancer rate. "

-Denise