Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 The following statement: we are all biochemically unique in how we detoxify is substantially false. One of the most difficult things for modern man to comprehend appears to be the notion that we are all completely alike and utterly unique at the same time. The likeness refers to what we share in common as a species. The uniqueness refers to our experience, both in our lifetime and whatever we receive by virtue of family, tribal/cultural patterns, genetic inheritance, etc. But if we all truly functioned uniquely, there could be no anatomy and physiology textbooks, no organized research studies, etc. When the body responds to ANY substance by accelerating its effort to dispose of that substance, then that substance is not food for our species. Asparagus is one such substance. Best to all, Elchanan Carol Lively [clively] Sunday, March 27, 2005 4:15 PM EnzymesandAutism Cc: rawfood [Raw Food] Asparagus Pee I was going through some of Dr. Sherry Rogers' newsletters when I found this article that I thought was interesting: Stinky Urine from Asparagus Signals Detox Deficiency Ask folks if they want some asparagus, and you get mixed reactions. Some love it and others tell you that love it but they can't eat it. A momentary sour grin from their spouses tells you the reason: stinky urine. You see, we are all biochemically unique in how we detoxify the world. One of these uniquenesses lies in how we detoxify sulfer compounds which asparagus happens to be high in. The health implications are that for medications that rely in part on sulfur detoxification pathways, like estrogens (Premarin), those with stinky urine may be at increased risk for the cancer-promoting effect of a drug like this since they do not entirely detoxify the sulfur part. The bottom line is that you could possibly improve your sulfation. How odiferous your urine is after asparagus would then be a barometer of your success. What nutrients can help sulfation? Molybdenum (which is needed in the enzyme sulfite oxidase), my favorite source being molybdenum picolinate, 200 mcg, 1-2 a day. Since molybdenum is also in aldehyde oxidase, it is essential for detoxifying aldehydes from, for example, Candida, environmental chemicals, and alcohol. In fact, it could be that you have depleted yours. Beans are a good source, but you need to have a fairly steady input of them in the diet, like several times a week to get enough. If one drink seems like two, or you are prone to brain fog with chemical exposures like perfumes, this can be another clue to a molybdenum deficiency. A trial of merely one bottle of 100 (one capsule per day) may change your detox ability for quite a number of things. Perhaps you can even eat asparagus and come out smelling like a rose. .... As I was reading this article, I was thinking that another adelhyde was probably formaldehyde. In Rogers' books " Detoxify or Die " and " Tired or Toxic? " , she discusses how formaldehyde is turned into formic acid in the body if it cannot be detoxified. It is my understanding that formic acid is the component of fireant venom that causes all of the burning pain experienced by people bitten by a fireant. Those who have been bitten by a fireant understand how uncomfortable that bite can be. This led me to wonder just how unpleasant having varying levels of formic acid running around in your bloodstream would be. I wonder how much inflammation and damage is done to the blood vessels? I wonder if this doesn't result in some irritabile and hyperexcited behavior? .... As I mentioned in a previous email, I highly recommend getting at least the two Rogers' books that I've mentioned in this email. You can check them out at Amazon.com, but I wanted them quickly so I went directly to the publisher (www.prestigepublishing.com) since Amazon and Borders did not have them in stock and were giving me a three week delivery date. Carol Lively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 So this means that asparagus is bad for us? Even juiced? hmmmmm..... " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote:The following statement: we are all biochemically unique in how we detoxify is substantially false. One of the most difficult things for modern man to comprehend appears to be the notion that we are all completely alike and utterly unique at the same time. The likeness refers to what we share in common as a species. The uniqueness refers to our experience, both in our lifetime and whatever we receive by virtue of family, tribal/cultural patterns, genetic inheritance, etc. But if we all truly functioned uniquely, there could be no anatomy and physiology textbooks, no organized research studies, etc. When the body responds to ANY substance by accelerating its effort to dispose of that substance, then that substance is not food for our species. Asparagus is one such substance. Best to all, Elchanan Carol Lively [clively] Sunday, March 27, 2005 4:15 PM EnzymesandAutism Cc: rawfood [Raw Food] Asparagus Pee I was going through some of Dr. Sherry Rogers' newsletters when I found this article that I thought was interesting: Stinky Urine from Asparagus Signals Detox Deficiency Ask folks if they want some asparagus, and you get mixed reactions. Some love it and others tell you that love it but they can't eat it. A momentary sour grin from their spouses tells you the reason: stinky urine. You see, we are all biochemically unique in how we detoxify the world. One of these uniquenesses lies in how we detoxify sulfer compounds which asparagus happens to be high in. The health implications are that for medications that rely in part on sulfur detoxification pathways, like estrogens (Premarin), those with stinky urine may be at increased risk for the cancer-promoting effect of a drug like this since they do not entirely detoxify the sulfur part. The bottom line is that you could possibly improve your sulfation. How odiferous your urine is after asparagus would then be a barometer of your success. What nutrients can help sulfation? Molybdenum (which is needed in the enzyme sulfite oxidase), my favorite source being molybdenum picolinate, 200 mcg, 1-2 a day. Since molybdenum is also in aldehyde oxidase, it is essential for detoxifying aldehydes from, for example, Candida, environmental chemicals, and alcohol. In fact, it could be that you have depleted yours. Beans are a good source, but you need to have a fairly steady input of them in the diet, like several times a week to get enough. If one drink seems like two, or you are prone to brain fog with chemical exposures like perfumes, this can be another clue to a molybdenum deficiency. A trial of merely one bottle of 100 (one capsule per day) may change your detox ability for quite a number of things. Perhaps you can even eat asparagus and come out smelling like a rose. .... As I was reading this article, I was thinking that another adelhyde was probably formaldehyde. In Rogers' books " Detoxify or Die " and " Tired or Toxic? " , she discusses how formaldehyde is turned into formic acid in the body if it cannot be detoxified. It is my understanding that formic acid is the component of fireant venom that causes all of the burning pain experienced by people bitten by a fireant. Those who have been bitten by a fireant understand how uncomfortable that bite can be. This led me to wonder just how unpleasant having varying levels of formic acid running around in your bloodstream would be. I wonder how much inflammation and damage is done to the blood vessels? I wonder if this doesn't result in some irritabile and hyperexcited behavior? .... As I mentioned in a previous email, I highly recommend getting at least the two Rogers' books that I've mentioned in this email. You can check them out at Amazon.com, but I wanted them quickly so I went directly to the publisher (www.prestigepublishing.com) since Amazon and Borders did not have them in stock and were giving me a three week delivery date. Carol Lively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 --- Re: epilipsy and the colon I believe the book you are searching for is: Colon Health, Key to Vibrant Life. Dr. Norman Walker, who recovered from cancer and lived over a hundred years makes a convincing statement, to me, about the value of colonics. By focusing on human anatomy, he is able to demonstrate how all disease arises from the colon. Dr. Ehret, in his book Rational Fasting, mentions recovery from stuttering. I have a booklet by another PhD, Dr. Jeffrey Bland, titled " Intestinal Toxicity and Inner Cleansing " , who writes about hepatic encephalopathy and the relationship between accumulated ammonia and severe mental illness. This booklet may be hard to obtain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Ravyne writes: So this means that asparagus is bad for us? Even juiced? hmmmmm..... _____ Not " bad " for us. I encourage people to think in terms of a continuum. At one end are watermelon, bananas, dates, and lettuce (among other things). At the other end are hemlock, arsenic, etc. In between lies everything else. Asparagus by itself will not harm you in any substantive way unless you already are severely hyperacidic, as a long-term meat or grain eater or user of drugs may be. Our body does need a small amount of sulfur for various uses. If you are sulfur-deficient for some reason, then asparagus may actually be helpful in the short-term in that regard. The thing is, I've never met anyone who seemed sulfur-deficient, as the American diet, including alternate versions, is generally overloaded with sulfur. Sulfur is a strong acid (as in sulfuric acid). In the quantities we need, it is perfect. In excess, sulfur, as anything else, becomes foreign matter the body must remove or isolate and store for later removal, if removal is not an option in the present. So if you like a little asparagus from time to time, great. I have one bunch in the house right now, been munching on it periodically for a number of days. OTOH, if you eat it 3 times a day for 4 months, you'll probably create a noticeable overload. There is a larger point here, in my opinion. Actually two points. 1. Single-nutrient thinking doesn't work, it is on a par with eating all fractional and no whole foods, in an abstract sense. Every food contains hundreds or even thousands of nutrients, all working together in an orchestra we cannot begin to fathom intellectually. 2. Saying " no " to ourselves also doesn't work, at least for most people I've ever known. For example, I never " stopped " eating most nuts and seeds, but over time, as I become progressively healthier, my body signals me more and more clearly that they are bringing my system to a grinding halt. I notice the drying effect in my mouth more quickly and clearly, and eventually I just no longer prefer them, at least not very often. In other words, I am suggesting that people let go rather than say " no, " in general. Now if someone is terminally ill or in some other emergency, or if some condition is otherwise intolerably severe, then we might pursue a more forceful course. But for most of us, we traveled down the path into our current circumstances over a period of decades, it's just fine if we take a bit of time returning back to our roots. All just my opinion, hopefully worth more than the 2 cents you didn't pay! :) Best to all, Elchanan -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (2141 characters) on 28 March 2005 at 17:09:01 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAAtOkhCXQgAANMBAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X1ko4 QrK4Vh2+feLxUFPxquDH/Cj3w/6ZPYBTLb7RDAqQ== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Thanks E! As usual, another great post that makes perfect sense! " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote: Ravyne writes: So this means that asparagus is bad for us? Even juiced? hmmmmm..... _____ Not " bad " for us. I encourage people to think in terms of a continuum. At one end are watermelon, bananas, dates, and lettuce (among other things). At the other end are hemlock, arsenic, etc. In between lies everything else. Asparagus by itself will not harm you in any substantive way unless you already are severely hyperacidic, as a long-term meat or grain eater or user of drugs may be. Our body does need a small amount of sulfur for various uses. If you are sulfur-deficient for some reason, then asparagus may actually be helpful in the short-term in that regard. The thing is, I've never met anyone who seemed sulfur-deficient, as the American diet, including alternate versions, is generally overloaded with sulfur. Sulfur is a strong acid (as in sulfuric acid). In the quantities we need, it is perfect. In excess, sulfur, as anything else, becomes foreign matter the body must remove or isolate and store for later removal, if removal is not an option in the present. So if you like a little asparagus from time to time, great. I have one bunch in the house right now, been munching on it periodically for a number of days. OTOH, if you eat it 3 times a day for 4 months, you'll probably create a noticeable overload. There is a larger point here, in my opinion. Actually two points. 1. Single-nutrient thinking doesn't work, it is on a par with eating all fractional and no whole foods, in an abstract sense. Every food contains hundreds or even thousands of nutrients, all working together in an orchestra we cannot begin to fathom intellectually. 2. Saying " no " to ourselves also doesn't work, at least for most people I've ever known. For example, I never " stopped " eating most nuts and seeds, but over time, as I become progressively healthier, my body signals me more and more clearly that they are bringing my system to a grinding halt. I notice the drying effect in my mouth more quickly and clearly, and eventually I just no longer prefer them, at least not very often. In other words, I am suggesting that people let go rather than say " no, " in general. Now if someone is terminally ill or in some other emergency, or if some condition is otherwise intolerably severe, then we might pursue a more forceful course. But for most of us, we traveled down the path into our current circumstances over a period of decades, it's just fine if we take a bit of time returning back to our roots. All just my opinion, hopefully worth more than the 2 cents you didn't pay! :) Best to all, Elchanan -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (2141 characters) on 28 March 2005 at 17:09:01 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAAtOkhCXQgAANMBAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X1ko4 QrK4Vh2+feLxUFPxquDH/Cj3w/6ZPYBTLb7RDAqQ== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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