Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Jan writes: Hi Lynne, What is 80-10-10? I don't recall it being mentioned here. Glad to hear you are a happy bunny. :-) _____ 80/10/10 is a concept authored by Dr. Doug Graham and to be fully described in his upcoming book. Doug has been teaching this concept for a number of years now on " the lecture circuit. " The numbers are carbohydrate/protein/fat, as a percentage of calories consumed. Most Americans eating the SAD (standard American diet) consume, as averages, 50% of their calories from carbohydrate (almost entirely either complex or refined sugar), 16% from protein, 34% from fat. These percentages have been calculated annually for more than three decades. There is a trend toward increasing the percentage of carbs and decreasing the percentage of fats; the protein percentage has been pretty much a constant throughout. - Vegans are thought to consume around 11% of calories as protein, though data on which to base this observation are more limited. - Surprisingly, most RFs are consuming a diet consisting of 50-80% of calories from fat. And the majority of RFs fail in the long run. Most of our nutrients are water-borne, a high-fat diet is malnutritive, raw of not. Based upon this and related data, along with extensive nutrient analysis of recipes, meal plans, and what people are actually eating (based upon their own reports and on more formal research), it seems clear that, for most people, it would be virtually impossible to consume MORE than around 14-17% of calories as protein, unless one were to eat albumin (egg whites), protein powder in large quantities, etc. Further, a massive body of research shows the following: - Excess protein (above our requirements) is extremely toxic and literally maims and kills us, over time. Excess protein and particularly protein from animal sources are directly and highly correlated with almost every illness and disease known to modern man. (T. Colin Campbell, Framingham Study, Pritikin, thousands of others) - High physical activity does NOT create any need to increase our PERCENT of protein. The naturally occurring caloric increase (in response to increased energy demand) automatically incorporates whatever additional protein is required. Hence, body builders and others are literally killing themselves for no benefit at all. Even the U.S. government agrees on this point. We actually only need perhaps 4-8% of our calories from protein. Similarly, we need less than 10% of our total calories from fat. So 80/10/10 is goal statement, suggesting that we strive to consume a MINIMUM of 80% of our calories as SIMPLE (fruit) carbohydrates, and a MAXIMUM of 10% each as protein and fat. fortunately, this distribution or better (more like 90/6/8) occurs quite naturally when we consume the high-water, high-oxygen, fruit-based diet I have suggested on a number of occasions. To my knowledge, Nutridiary is far and away the best free, online source for entering and tracking your meals and finding out caloric distribution and other information. FitDay has been around for years, but right now Nutridiary is the superior product, for many reasons ranging from data quality, support, data usefulness and completeness, and so on. Try it for a week, you'll learn a LOT about how you are eating!!! Best to all, Elchanan -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (2755 characters) on 31 March 2005 at 17:05:21 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAADRLUxCwwoAANYCAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X1vSS A0BT7fHD6ijLDaJFNyvBI3y+39Zs2N1xQpteR4LQ== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 It is true that my friend Laurie " maters, " but her last name is still Masters. :) Elchanan Bob Farrell [rjf2] Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:35 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] trusting my body > > What is 80-10-10? I don't recall it being mentioned here. > > Glad to hear you are a happy bunny. :-) > - Jan Hi Jan, and this is not Lynne...and thought I'd give the question a shot. The " 80-10-10 " refers to the caloronutrient percentages of foods that you eat, with the 80% being carborhydrates, and then fat% and then protein%. With the goal being to have a *maximum* of 10% of either fat or protein. both fitday.com and nutriday.com offer ways to track this online. I prefer nutridiary; and I'd posted earlier about how when I first checked it, the percentage was very high for fat (40-50%??!!), from nuts/seeds. Since using the tool, I've gotten it down to the 90/5/5 range, while meeting caloric needs. I find it a useful tool. The ratios have been mentioned a couple of times, and I think Elchanan mentioned it in a post about his researcher friend, Laurie Maters. hope this helps. regards, Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 > It is true that my friend Laurie " maters, " but her last name is still > Masters. :) > > Elchanan ahh....lol! typos abound! apologies to Laurie! Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 I've been using Nutridiary and would agree it is very eye opening...I was eating a very high percentage fat also. Am getting that regulated with the help of Nutridiary's calculations. One thing I am concerned about...it registers my calcium intake as falling far below the RDA requirements. My thoughts from the reading I've done is that with eating much less protein and only plant-based protein, my body is better able to utilize the calcium that I am taking in... so those RDA numbers may not be completely valid. Is my thinking correct, or do I need to find some additional sources of calcium? Any thoughts are appreciated. Love and Light~Tess > To my knowledge, Nutridiary is far and away the best free, online source for > entering and tracking your meals and finding out caloric distribution and > other information. FitDay has been around for years, but right now > Nutridiary is the superior product, for many reasons ranging from data > quality, support, data usefulness and completeness, and so on. Try it for a > week, you'll learn a LOT about how you are eating!!! > > Best to all, > Elchanan > > > -- > ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- > vlinfo@e... signed email body (2755 characters) > on 31 March 2005 at 17:05:21 UTC > rawfood > ------------------------------- > : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. > : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines > : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. > ------------------------------- > 00fAAAAAEAAADRLUxCwwoAANYCAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O > zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X1vSS > A0BT7fHD6ijLDaJFNyvBI3y+39Zs2N1xQpteR4LQ== > ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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