Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Try Lori's idea of blending a WHOLE lemon with just enough water to make the blender blend. Squeeze out the liquid for other uses. Then put the mash into a cloth (no holes!!) and see what happens. Try it on the chrome, etc. Elchanan chai_mama [chai_mama] Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:27 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] cleansers and shampoos regarding natural house cleaning-- any thoughts on removing soap scum from glass shower doors? I have trouble with this . . . thanks in advance! Leslie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 this is a great suggestion-- I've heard Juliano talk about how he uses lemon to clean everything! Must make the house smell great! Leslie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Even Pledge is marketed as " lemon-fresh, " is it not? chai_mama [chai_mama] Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:16 AM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] cleansers and shampoos this is a great suggestion-- I've heard Juliano talk about how he uses lemon to clean everything! Must make the house smell great! Leslie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 In a message dated 4/3/2005 12:49:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, VLinfo writes: Eat whole fresh ripe raw organic-or-better fruits and greens, What do you mean by " organic or better " ? What re you saying is better? Wild produce? Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Joanie writes: Am I understandin you right - can I safely use white vinegar in place of a fabric softener on my clothes - it won't hurt/discolor them or anything? I really want to know this - because if this is true - wow- it would be great to stop buyin fabric softener! Thanks for any feedback. _____ I have used white vinegar as a cleaning agent in laundry for years, never a problem. And I take excellent care of my clothes, I have T-shirts that are 15 years old and still in excellent condition. (Hint: NEVER put them in a dryer!) As for fabric softening, where did you learn that you " need " to soften the fabrics in the first place? Mine are always soft, and all I do is wash them and hang them to dry. But then, that would be a bit old-fashioned!!! Of course, I use far less electrical power, no chemicals, my clothes last for years and years in great condition, etc. May I suggest this: There is NOTHING from a chemical factory that we need for any part of our personal hygiene or self-care. Run up hills and climb trees, you'll never need a gym. Eat whole fresh ripe raw organic-or-better fruits and greens, and you won't even walk through all those other aisles in the grocery ever again. Use lemon, vinegar, etc. for cleaning, save yourself thousands of dollars and lower the toxicity level of your entire environment. Buy directly from farmers and from sources that use no chemicals, live in service to the entire planet. The first, best way most of us can " give " to ourselves, others, and the planetary ecosystem is simply to stop doing destructive acts. Always ask yourself, how is this activity accomplished in Nature? This is not radical thinking, it is merely the way our species lived for eons, and the way all species in Nature have lived forever. Best to all, Elchanan -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (1465 characters) on 03 April 2005 at 16:49:18 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAACOHlBCuQUAAHkCAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X2Iux LKpDg8/y7dNwDsQvRsWVAnh8962yqc1iwd60MnPw== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Judy writes: In a message dated 4/3/2005 12:49:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, VLinfo writes: Eat whole fresh ripe raw organic-or-better fruits and greens, What do you mean by " organic or better " ? What re you saying is better? Wild produce? Judy _____ Thank you! Thank you! I've used that language several times, wondering when someone would ask! In the U.S., the federal organic standard is inferior to the older standards set in California (best known), Oregon, and Texas. So on the one hand we have a national standard, on the other hand it is riddled with holes with respect to certification, verification, and a host of other issues. Large stores such as Whole Foods and Wild Oats rely upon these certification processes. I rely upon them to a much lesser extent. I buy as much of my food as possible directly from farmers whom I've gotten to know over time. I talk with them, I gain understanding of exactly what they are doing, etc. So what's beyond organic farming? First, I am unaware of any field, hillside, etc. in Nature where only one plant grows, or where any plants are lined up in neat rows and columns. So wild is clearly different, and yes, it's better! Anything growing in a complete, integral soil ecosystem is going to be stronger, more vital, more nutritious, tastier, etc. than any comparable food grown elsewhere (subject to hybridization for sweetness, which may make certain foods taste sweeter and therefore " better " ). Second, there is a quantum jump in food quality between farmers who compost on a regular basis and those who do not. Many organic farmers use organically certified fertilizers but do not compost. The difference is profound: - To fertilize is to feed the current plant (actually, to feed a some minimal level). Just as using supplements in lieu of a healthy diet does not work well for us, so to, feeding plants a short list of nutrients instead of the full range they would receive in Nature compromises the plants, makes their output less tasty, less nutritious, and the plants themselves more susceptible to disease and attack. - To compost is to build upon the life in the soil itself. Composting turns lose the full range of bacteria native to soil, and therefore leads to soil rich in an unknown number of mostly undiscovered nutrients, as well as those we presently know about. Many of the most important micronutrients must be processed by bacteria or are bacteria output. For example, vitamin B12, about which many express concern, is simply the poop of soil bacteria. Pesticides wipe out these bacteria, fertilizers do not replace them. Only by creating a " life pile, " i.e., a compost pile, do we come close to the way Nature builds soil. I could go on with much more, but hopefully this is enough to explain why I say " organic or better. " For me organic is a bare minimum standard. I know farmers who are not certified organic, but their foods are clearly far superior to the same foods from many farms that are certified. I buy almost all my apples, blackberries, and much of my citrus this way, for example. As with anything in life, if you invest in the relationships, many good and wonderful things will follow! Best to all, Elchanan -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (2656 characters) on 03 April 2005 at 20:29:56 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAABEUlBCYAoAAA8CAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X1O/Q zQ1zr9Hv5xE2dJO8waEWEGpT60hqmFnU0KrbxhkQ== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 so if i do a load of wash, how much vinegar? and nothing else? thx. lane - INFO @ Vibrant Life rawfood Sunday, April 03, 2005 12:49 PM RE: [Raw Food] cleansers and shampoos Joanie writes: Am I understandin you right - can I safely use white vinegar in place of a fabric softener on my clothes - it won't hurt/discolor them or anything? I really want to know this - because if this is true - wow- it would be great to stop buyin fabric softener! Thanks for any feedback. _____ I have used white vinegar as a cleaning agent in laundry for years, never a problem. And I take excellent care of my clothes, I have T-shirts that are 15 years old and still in excellent condition. (Hint: NEVER put them in a dryer!) As for fabric softening, where did you learn that you " need " to soften the fabrics in the first place? Mine are always soft, and all I do is wash them and hang them to dry. But then, that would be a bit old-fashioned!!! Of course, I use far less electrical power, no chemicals, my clothes last for years and years in great condition, etc. May I suggest this: There is NOTHING from a chemical factory that we need for any part of our personal hygiene or self-care. Run up hills and climb trees, you'll never need a gym. Eat whole fresh ripe raw organic-or-better fruits and greens, and you won't even walk through all those other aisles in the grocery ever again. Use lemon, vinegar, etc. for cleaning, save yourself thousands of dollars and lower the toxicity level of your entire environment. Buy directly from farmers and from sources that use no chemicals, live in service to the entire planet. The first, best way most of us can " give " to ourselves, others, and the planetary ecosystem is simply to stop doing destructive acts. Always ask yourself, how is this activity accomplished in Nature? This is not radical thinking, it is merely the way our species lived for eons, and the way all species in Nature have lived forever. Best to all, Elchanan -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (1465 characters) on 03 April 2005 at 16:49:18 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAACOHlBCuQUAAHkCAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X2Iux LKpDg8/y7dNwDsQvRsWVAnh8962yqc1iwd60MnPw== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Yes, me too - I want to learn about cleaning with vinegar, lemon juice, etc.! lane lynn <lanie wrote:so if i do a load of wash, how much vinegar? and nothing else? thx. lane - INFO @ Vibrant Life rawfood Sunday, April 03, 2005 12:49 PM RE: [Raw Food] cleansers and shampoos An e-mail from Joanie May all of your journeys be safe ones. Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Hi everyone, Just want you all to know, I've turned the static cling portion of this thread into a small research project. Post coming sometime " real soon now " <tm>. Elchanan -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (145 characters) on 04 April 2005 at 16:04:46 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAACeZVFCkQAAAKQCAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X1hsR q1HA0zo18oInXfqK4cNP4qnqf4TNwnS6ZpgP4lYA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Soap scum wont happen when you stop using soap on your body, hey doesn't that seems wierd, soap causes scum but we use it to clean. Soap attracts dirt that is why it is used to clean dirt, however some of it is always left behind, which will of course attract dirt, great way to keep soap companies in business huh. I found a slice of lemon works great just after a shower for removing the dirt from anywhere in the bathroom, this is because the vapor will lift up some of the dirt. same concenpt as steam cleaning without having to buy a steamer. we are savinf money all over the place here! Lori www.infinitelove.info rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo@e...> wrote: > Try Lori's idea of blending a WHOLE lemon with just enough water to make the > blender blend. Squeeze out the liquid for other uses. Then put the mash into > a cloth (no holes!!) and see what happens. Try it on the chrome, etc. > Elchanan > > > chai_mama@j... [chai_mama@j...] > Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:27 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] cleansers and shampoos > > > > regarding natural house cleaning-- > any thoughts on removing soap scum from glass shower doors? > I have trouble with this . . . > thanks in advance! > Leslie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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