Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 should I just point her to Nazariah? What's his email or WWW? swing bolder [swingbolder] Friday, April 01, 2005 11:08 AM rawfood [Raw Food] essene gospel of peace I read once that the Essene Gospel of Peace was " largely considered to be fraudulent " (paraphrased words to that effect). Can anyone point me to any online sources that show proof that it is an authentic document? swing Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents./emoticontest _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Sorry for this post, meant to forward it as an information gathering inquiry to someone else; have now done so! Elchanan INFO @ Vibrant Life [VLinfo] Friday, April 01, 2005 5:20 PM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] essene gospel of peace should I just point her to Nazariah? What's his email or WWW? -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (320 characters) on 02 April 2005 at 01:28:02 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAAi9U1CQAEAAGQCAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X1Q8l 1tBaVC944n2TjAldIG3fWjb+cm1aXzSHnKWZDcpw== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 There is no 'proof'. They are 'dead sea scroll' type documents. The Vatian says 'heresay'. You just have to read them for yourself and see if they resonate as 'truth' with your heart, or not. Peace be with your spirit, I wish you the very best of days. rainbow _____ I hate to do this, but the foregoing is quite false. The Vatican says nothing at all, nothing of the kind. They are not parchment scrolls, they are copper scrolls, which is part of what makes them rare. They were found by an independent scholar in the Vatican library, he disclosed their existence, the Vatican did not. Searching for more information. Elchanan -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (516 characters) on 02 April 2005 at 03:07:58 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAACODE5CBAIAAK0BAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X1van 51pO0EgaZBBbRD2G3Wo/iZU/g5xh7869hXAP0T4w== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 It is against my nature to get into slanging matches and thus I will not do so. I simply repeat: read the information for yourself, decide if it is something that resonates as truth to you, if it does, follow it, if it does not, move to something else. There is -- in my humble opinion -- no universal 'right' or 'wrong', simply choice...... Peace be with ALL who follow this thread, I wish you ALL the very best of days. " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote: There is no 'proof'. They are 'dead sea scroll' type documents. The Vatian says 'heresay'. You just have to read them for yourself and see if they resonate as 'truth' with your heart, or not. Peace be with your spirit, I wish you the very best of days. rainbow _____ I hate to do this, but the foregoing is quite false. The Vatican says nothing at all, nothing of the kind. They are not parchment scrolls, they are copper scrolls, which is part of what makes them rare. They were found by an independent scholar in the Vatican library, he disclosed their existence, the Vatican did not. Searching for more information. Elchanan -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (516 characters) on 02 April 2005 at 03:07:58 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAACODE5CBAIAAK0BAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X1van 51pO0EgaZBBbRD2G3Wo/iZU/g5xh7869hXAP0T4w== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 rawfood , rainbow wolf <essene_being> wrote: > > It is against my nature to get into slanging matches and thus I will not do so. I simply repeat: read the information for yourself, decide if it is something that resonates as truth to you, if it does, follow it, if it does not, move to something else. There is -- in my humble opinion -- no universal 'right' or 'wrong', simply choice...... > > Peace be with ALL who follow this thread, I wish you ALL the very best of days. there is no right or wrong? I know you don't want to argue but somethings are either right or wrong if this gospel exists and is from Jesus it is right if it is not from him but from some people trying to fulfill their agenda it is wrong Somethings are black and white, they either do or dont' exists according to the Bible: (I don't believe in it or promote it just want to bring it up) Jesus said it is not what goes into a man that makes him evil but what comes out Paul was given a vision where he killed pigs and ate them to show that anything eating with thanks is OK and you dont' need to hold people to eating only kosher foods Jesus gave people bread to eat and fish in timothy it talks against any type of dietary restrictions If the essenes teachings about raw food are real they would contradict the Bible, what I mean is you can't really say you believe in both books I personally don't believe ether one. Maybe someday I will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 John de la Garza wrote: > > rawfood , rainbow wolf <essene_being> wrote: > > > > It is against my nature to get into slanging matches and thus I will > not do so. I simply > repeat: read the information for yourself, decide if it is something > that resonates as truth > to you, if it does, follow it, if it does not, move to something > else. There is -- in my > humble opinion -- no universal 'right' or 'wrong', simply choice...... > > > > Peace be with ALL who follow this thread, I wish you ALL the very > best of days. > > there is no right or wrong? I know you don't want to argue but > somethings are either right > or wrong > ====================================== Such as? IMHO there is only choice. There has only ever been choice, there will only ever be choice. There is no wrong, there is only right. What you may perceive as wrong, in another, is absolutely right for them at the moment. It is all about choices not wrong or right. There are very good choice and some not so good choices but they are never wrong. Same holds true for love and hate. Love and hate are two sides of the same coin called choice. One side is a very pro-survival choice and the other side is a conta-survival choice but it is never wrong for there is no wrong choice. Any choice is the right choice for the person making that choice at that time. Just my humble opinion. -- Peace be with you, John. Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " -- In compliance with the highest standards of Universal Law, this email has been thoroughly disinfected and purified in the solar flares of the sun. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release 4/1/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Dear Whoever is part of this discussion, There is not only choice. We have choice in many things, of course, but some things ARE right or wrong. Not in a moral sense, but in the sense of being factually correct or incorrect. To pick a silly example, try " choosing " that the sun will rise in the west, or that McDonald's is healthy, or that you have five arms. You won't get very far. In moral matters, or matters of taste, of course it's generally relative (in fact more moral issues are relative than most would car to admit!). No right or wrong sully these particular shores. However, if you wish for health and harmony and peace, some things become right or wrong relative to that. But even then, it's also relative to the situation etc etc. I shall now cease pontificating. Love and Light, Graeme > > > > there is no right or wrong? I know you don't want to argue but > > somethings are either right > > or wrong > > > ====================================== > Such as? IMHO there is only choice. There has only ever been choice, > there will only ever be choice. There is no wrong, there is only right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 I've read some of the essene gospel, and postive and good though it seems to be, it's obvious from the style and wording that it was just written by some guy pretty recently, trying to word it all 'olde worlde' so that it sounds authentic. It didn't work, in my case. I don't buy it - and I'm a pretty open-minded guy. Anyway, that doesn't even matter. Why on earth would we need scriptural authority to justify eating healthily? As a matter of fact I don't understand the amount of bogus pseudo-religious that goes on around this matter. What has it got to do with raw food? Just eat it! Love and Light, Graeme rawfood , " John de la Garza " <john@j...> wrote: > > rawfood , rainbow wolf <essene_being> wrote: > > There is -- in my > humble opinion -- no universal 'right' or 'wrong', simply choice...... > > > > Peace be with ALL who follow this thread, I wish you ALL the very best of days. > > there is no right or wrong? I know you don't want to argue but somethings are either right > or wrong > > if this gospel exists and is from Jesus it is right if it is not from him but from some people > trying to fulfill their agenda it is wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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