RE: 80/10/10 [s]

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Brenda writes:

 

This is probably going to sound incredibly naive, but I am new to all

this.

 

Please explain 80/10/10

_____

 

Not naive, if you're new, you're new!! Thanks for asking. This is a repost

from Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:05 AM

 

80/10/10 is a concept authored by Dr. Doug Graham and to be fully described

in his upcoming book. Doug has been teaching this concept for a number of

years now on " the lecture circuit. "

 

The numbers are carbohydrate/protein/fat, as a percentage of calories

consumed.

 

Most Americans eating the SAD (standard American diet) consume, as averages,

50% of their calories from carbohydrate (almost entirely either complex or

refined sugar), 16% from protein, 34% from fat. These percentages have been

calculated annually for more than three decades. There is a trend toward

increasing the percentage of carbs and decreasing the percentage of fats;

the protein percentage has been pretty much a constant throughout.

 

- Vegans are thought to consume around 11% of calories as protein, though

data on which to base this observation are more limited.

 

- Surprisingly, most RFs are consuming a diet consisting of 50-80% of

calories from fat. And the majority of RFs fail in the long run. Most of our

nutrients are water-borne, a high-fat diet is malnutritive, raw of not.

 

Based upon this and related data, along with extensive nutrient analysis of

recipes, meal plans, and what people are actually eating (based upon their

own reports and on more formal research), it seems clear that, for most

people, it would be virtually impossible to consume MORE than around 14-17%

of calories as protein, unless one were to eat albumin (egg whites), protein

powder in large quantities, etc. Further, a massive body of research shows

the following:

 

- Excess protein (above our requirements) is extremely toxic and literally

maims and kills us, over time. Excess protein and particularly protein from

animal sources are directly and highly correlated with almost every illness

and disease known to modern man. (T. Colin Campbell, Framingham Study,

Pritikin, thousands of others)

 

- High physical activity does NOT create any need to increase our PERCENT of

protein. The naturally occurring caloric increase (in response to increased

energy demand) automatically incorporates whatever additional protein is

required. Hence, body builders and others are literally killing themselves

for no benefit at all. Even the U.S. government agrees on this point.

 

We actually only need perhaps 4-8% of our calories from protein. Similarly,

we need less than 10% of our total calories from fat.

 

So 80/10/10 is goal statement, suggesting that we strive to consume a

MINIMUM of 80% of our calories as SIMPLE (fruit) carbohydrates, and a

MAXIMUM of 10% each as protein and fat. fortunately, this distribution or

better (more like 90/6/8) occurs quite naturally when we consume the

high-water, high-oxygen, fruit-based diet I have suggested on a number of

occasions.

 

To my knowledge, Nutridiary is far and away the best free, online source for

entering and tracking your meals and finding out caloric distribution and

other information. FitDay has been around for years, but right now

Nutridiary is the superior product, for many reasons ranging from data

quality, support, data usefulness and completeness, and so on. Try it for a

week, you'll learn a LOT about how you are eating!!!

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

 

 

 

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Hi, Elchanan, would it be all right if I posted your response in another group?

 

Thanks...Valerie

 

" INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote:

Brenda writes:

 

This is probably going to sound incredibly naive, but I am new to all

this.

 

Please explain 80/10/10

_____

 

Not naive, if you're new, you're new!! Thanks for asking. This is a repost

from Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:05 AM

 

80/10/10 is a concept authored by Dr. Doug Graham and to be fully described

in his upcoming book. Doug has been teaching this concept for a number of

years now on " the lecture circuit. "

 

The numbers are carbohydrate/protein/fat, as a percentage of calories

consumed.

 

Most Americans eating the SAD (standard American diet) consume, as averages,

50% of their calories from carbohydrate (almost entirely either complex or

refined sugar), 16% from protein, 34% from fat. These percentages have been

calculated annually for more than three decades. There is a trend toward

increasing the percentage of carbs and decreasing the percentage of fats;

the protein percentage has been pretty much a constant throughout.

 

- Vegans are thought to consume around 11% of calories as protein, though

data on which to base this observation are more limited.

 

- Surprisingly, most RFs are consuming a diet consisting of 50-80% of

calories from fat. And the majority of RFs fail in the long run. Most of our

nutrients are water-borne, a high-fat diet is malnutritive, raw of not.

 

Based upon this and related data, along with extensive nutrient analysis of

recipes, meal plans, and what people are actually eating (based upon their

own reports and on more formal research), it seems clear that, for most

people, it would be virtually impossible to consume MORE than around 14-17%

of calories as protein, unless one were to eat albumin (egg whites), protein

powder in large quantities, etc. Further, a massive body of research shows

the following:

 

- Excess protein (above our requirements) is extremely toxic and literally

maims and kills us, over time. Excess protein and particularly protein from

animal sources are directly and highly correlated with almost every illness

and disease known to modern man. (T. Colin Campbell, Framingham Study,

Pritikin, thousands of others)

 

- High physical activity does NOT create any need to increase our PERCENT of

protein. The naturally occurring caloric increase (in response to increased

energy demand) automatically incorporates whatever additional protein is

required. Hence, body builders and others are literally killing themselves

for no benefit at all. Even the U.S. government agrees on this point.

 

We actually only need perhaps 4-8% of our calories from protein. Similarly,

we need less than 10% of our total calories from fat.

 

So 80/10/10 is goal statement, suggesting that we strive to consume a

MINIMUM of 80% of our calories as SIMPLE (fruit) carbohydrates, and a

MAXIMUM of 10% each as protein and fat. fortunately, this distribution or

better (more like 90/6/8) occurs quite naturally when we consume the

high-water, high-oxygen, fruit-based diet I have suggested on a number of

occasions.

 

To my knowledge, Nutridiary is far and away the best free, online source for

entering and tracking your meals and finding out caloric distribution and

other information. FitDay has been around for years, but right now

Nutridiary is the superior product, for many reasons ranging from data

quality, support, data usefulness and completeness, and so on. Try it for a

week, you'll learn a LOT about how you are eating!!!

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for the information. Actually I did some further

research, after I had posted the question. I found Dr. Graham's

site. And I have another question or two.

 

According to what I read, a typical day for meals (to get around

2000 calories) is a honeydew for breakfast, 8 - 12 bananas for

lunch, 8 peaches for a snack and a huge salad for dinner. How do you

consume so much fruit in one sitting? Can that fruit consumption be

spread out during the day (grazing)? Isn't this very expensive (I

know that fruit is more expensive than vegetables), even if it isn't

organic? Is additional water consumption necessary (i.e. 8 glasses

of water/day) with eating so much fruit?

 

I have read that chewing your food until liquid is very good. So I

am trying this out. It takes awhile to eat one banana, and then I am

full. I can't imagine eating 7 more.

 

Again, I apologize if this sounds naive or offends anyone. I also

apologize if these are repeat questions. I did do a search for 80-

10-10 on this board, but nothing came up.

 

This is all so exciting to me! I love fruit and this way of eating

sounds so right for me.

 

Again, I am deeply grateful for all the advice.

 

Brenda

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Hi, Brenda, one of the things Dr. D. talks about is 'growing' into eating more

volume; you may start out in more of a grazing mode, and sort of work your way

up in volume. I am now able to eat more in a sitting than I was a couple of

months ago. One of the things that helps is blending a few bananas and drinking

them like a smoothie. I still mix mine with berries or mangos, etc.; what you

were describing was the 'mono-meal' ideal, which is something to aim for, but

not essential to experiencng the benefits of the 809/10/10.

 

RE: Expense: So far, it has not been more expensive than eating other ways that

I have in the past, and is certainly much less expensive than in the days I also

included vitamins and supplements. I tend to focus on seasonal fruits, with

bananas as the base, and at this time, I am eating between 1200-1500 calories,

depending on my hunger and activity level (which is still fairly low). Bananas,

apples, grapes, mangos and some citrus form the main part of my diet right now,

with celery being the bulk of greens, with some romaine and other leave lettuces

slowly increasing in volume. Once we get back into summer, I expect to eat a lot

more melon, berries, stone fruits, etc. Once in a great while some avocado is

included, or almonds.

 

Water: if you have enough volume in fruit, you probably won't need to drink a

large amount of water. I still drink quite a bit, because I still feel like I

want it. But I am also still losing weight, and that may or may not have

something to do with that.

 

Peace, Valerie

 

 

Brenda Costanzo <bren888 wrote:

 

 

Thank you for the information. Actually I did some further

research, after I had posted the question. I found Dr. Graham's

site. And I have another question or two.

 

 

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