RE: New Here - am concerned about cravings [s]

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jeannie_rose_13 Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:05 AM To:

rawfood Re: [Raw Food] New Here - am concerned

about cravings

I could just taste the pesticide chemicals I was ingesting, and it was

making me feel 'not right', and maybe even a little nauseous. It really

bothered me, but I still ate them, trying to concentrate on the sweeter

parts. Ah well. I still feel good about the fact that I ate strawberries,

and not the other things I've been consuming lately.

_____

Jeanie, Did you see my post a couple of days a about treating the " cost " of

food as an investment in one's self? I recommend doing whatever it takes to

get the best raw material you can find to put into yourself. For your body

will truly become what you eat!

Elchanan

 

 

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Elchanan,

 

Just found the post, and read it. Thanks - it makes sense. Even without tons

of variety, putting quality substance in is just better, all around. I was

planning on going to the natural food store tomorrow to pick me up a couple of

bunches of organic bananas, anyway! :-) With all the apparent banana support

in this group, I guess they'd be good for me to at least try for a while - I'll

do my best not to get bored with them!

 

Thank you, thank you!

 

Jeannie Rose

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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jeannie_rose_13

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:25 PM

rawfood

RE: [Raw Food] New Here - am concerned about cravings

Elchanan,

 

Just found the post, and read it. Thanks - it makes sense. Even without

tons of variety, putting quality substance in is just better, all around. I

was planning on going to the natural food store tomorrow to pick me up a

couple of bunches of organic bananas, anyway! :-) With all the apparent

banana support in this group, I guess they'd be good for me to at least try

for a while - I'll do my best not to get bored with them!

 

Thank you, thank you!

 

Jeannie Rose

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when most of us associate any food with primates, the first food that

typically comes to mind is the banana. We are primates. The link is actually

rather easy, when you look at our species in the context of its larger

family of species.

Elchanan

 

 

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I agree with Elchanan. A lot of those food cravings are because of the

deleterious effects of cooked and processed food. I find that once 'raw " the

body responds very differently. If I had had the money to purchase it, I would

definitely have received the diagnosis of eating disorder. I wasn't the problem,

it turns out....the poor diet was.

It's easy for these people to say the problem is you, you have these

issues... blah blah blah. Here's the thing... Everyone has issues, so it always

rings true when they say that stuff.

It's like the fortune teller who says, " I see a man in your life.. " " and you

jump in, " oh that must be Fred! " and think how brilliant that fortune teller

must be. After all she's never met Fred.

But anyhow, I digress...... A happy raw day to all, Lane

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Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:08 AM

RE: [Raw Food] Re: New Here - am concerned about cravings

jeannie_rose_13 [jeannie_rose_13] Tuesday, April 19,

2005 3:29 PM <rawfood > rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re: New Here - am concerned about cravings

Yes, I've been struggling with a binge eating disorder - even though I've

been binge/emotional eating my entire life, I've only recently discovered

that I have this disorder. Putting a name to my emotional eating, and

understanding that I had a problem was extremely upsetting for me, and at

the same time a great wake-up call!

_____

Hi Jeannie,

Now that you have purchased a diagnosis, I suggest that you let it go. You

do not " have a disorder, " stamping such a label on your forehead may serve

as a wakeup call not, but listen to your own words, wearing a label is

upsetting to you.

We cannot ever treat disease, we can only create health. Try and shift your

focus from all this discussion about binging and so forth. Every time you

write such words, every time you speak them, you reinforce THOSE patterns in

your being. It is easy to go out into the world, send out your binging

message, and receiving back matching messages from others who wear similar

labels. But if you really want to live healthfully, rather than bingfully,

then start sending out messages that will attract people who are living

healthfully NOW, let their energy enter your life, let your energy begin to

shift into new patterns using them as role models.

If you wish to hear more about these ideas, please let me know.

Elchanan

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See Below Elchanans reply.. K

 

rawfood , " lane lynn " <lanie@p...> wrote:

> I agree with Elchanan. A lot of those food cravings are because of

the deleterious effects of cooked and processed food. I find that

once 'raw " the body responds very differently. If I had had the money

to purchase it, I would definitely have received the diagnosis of

eating disorder. I wasn't the problem, it turns out....the poor diet

was.

_____

> Hi Jeannie,

> > do not " have a disorder, " stamping such a label on your

forehead may serve

> as a wakeup call not, but listen to your own words, wearing a

label is

> upsetting to you.

>

> We cannot ever treat disease, we can only create health. Try and

shift your

> focus from all this discussion about binging and so forth. Every

time you

> write such words, every time you speak them, you reinforce THOSE

patterns in

> your being. It is easy to go out into the world, send out your

binging

> message, and receiving back matching messages from others who

wear similar

> labels. But if you really want to live healthfully, rather than

bingfully,

> then start sending out messages that will attract people who are

living

> healthfully NOW, let their energy enter your life, let your

energy begin to

> shift into new patterns using them as role models.

>

> If you wish to hear more about these ideas, please let me know.

> Elchanan

>

Message from Kay

I havent got on to replying the important feedback from Elchanan to

myself yet - went home for an emotional release

But i think the above is beautiful advice - Something I am

learning for myself: How we speak to ourselves and others will define

what we attract into our lives.

I will say I do somewhat disagree with blaming cooked food for our

problems. ALL " illness/dis-order " whatever we label it: BEGINS IN THE

MIND then the outer illusion of life as we see it comes about.

Then what happens is this outside influence makes us sick and we

justify it by putting the blame outside ourselves.

Problems of any kind with eating can be " crippling " and disasterous

to the individual and their lives. I do think the answer lies within

first, then asking for support, whilst learning to think and act in

empowering ways through love and the support given.xx

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Yes, I was thinking about that evolutionary link all last night. It DOES make

sense.

 

I was wondering though, if you know, or if anyone else here knows, of any

literature or studies done on main food staples of varying species. It would be

interesting to see how main food staples have evolved or changed (or not

changed) with each species.

 

Thanks, Elchanan. JR

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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korangeli [korangeli] Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:26

AM [Raw Food] Re: New Here - am concerned about cravings

Previously, Lane Lynn wrote:

I agree with Elchanan. A lot of those food cravings are because of the

deleterious effects of cooked and processed food. I find that once 'raw " the

body responds very differently. If I had had the money to purchase it, I

would definitely have received the diagnosis of eating disorder. I wasn't

the problem, it turns out....the poor diet was.

 

In response to what Elchanan previously previously wrote:

Hi Jeannie,

....do not " have a disorder, " stamping such a label on your forehead may

serve as a wakeup call not, but listen to your own words, wearing a label is

upsetting to you.

 

We cannot ever treat disease, we can only create health. Try and shift your

focus from all this discussion about binging and so forth. Every time you

write such words, every time you speak them, you reinforce THOSE patterns in

your being. It is easy to go out into the world, send out your binging

message, and receiving back matching messages from others who

wear similar labels. But if you really want to live healthfully, rather than

bingfully, then start sending out messages that will attract people who are

living healthfully NOW, let their energy enter your life, let your energy

begin to shift into new patterns using them as role models.

 

And now Kay writes:

I havent got on to replying the important feedback from Elchanan to myself

yet - went home for an emotional release But i think the above is

beautiful advice - Something I am learning for myself: How we speak to

ourselves and others will define what we attract into our lives.

I will say I do somewhat disagree with blaming cooked food for our problems.

ALL " illness/dis-order " whatever we label it: BEGINS IN THE MIND then the

outer illusion of life as we see it comes about. Then what happens is this

outside influence makes us sick and we justify it by putting the blame

outside ourselves. Problems of any kind with eating can be " crippling " and

disasterous to the individual and their lives. I do think the answer lies

within first, then asking for support, whilst learning to think and act in

empowering ways through love and the support given.xx

_____

Hi Kay and all,

Now let's take this whole discussion a step further, by removing the word

" blame " from our vocabulary entirely. Nothing at all is to blame, each of us

did his/her best at every step along life's journey. Now we are here, with

the opportunity not only to improve ourselves, but also to participate in

charting a new course for our species. I hold as a great honor that I live

in the midst of this opporunity.

Elchanan

 

 

 

 

 

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