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Swing,

 

I have some questions...I'm hoping the answers will help me in my

thinking. (I am struggling with the line between vegan and raw and

wanting to know if there is a substantial benefit to the " next step "

of going Raw)

 

Before you went raw, what was your diet like? Was it SAD or

vegan/organic? What is your family's diet like now? Comparing energy

levels etc and wondering if they eat SAD, RF, vegan or whatever.

 

Did you make any other major changes at the same time as RF, such as

exercise, meditation, sunshine, fresh air? Or were you already doing

those types of things?

 

Thanks for any additional input you can give!

 

Tess

 

 

 

rawfood , swing bolder <swingbolder>

wrote:

> Denise,

>

 

> I first looked into the raw path in the late 90s, but

> then I met my husband and he is a gourmet vegan cook,

> so thinking about raw went on the backburner.

>

> Several years later, I found myself so sick from

> asthma (which I've had all my life) and other

> allergies that I was on 5 different kinds of

> prescription meds, including 2 very powerful steroids.

> Long story short, I did a long juice fast then went

> straight into raw after that. Nearly six months later

> I am not only off all my meds -- except for a puffer

> inhaler I use when I come into contact with a toxic

> chemical, like perfume -- I am healthier than I've

> ever been. I feel like I'm back in my 20s, and I'm

> working out for an hour and a half a day. My insomnia

> is gone, my chronic sinusitis is gone, and so is my

> asthma for the most part. I'm the first one awake in

> my household and the last one to sleep at night,

> that's how much energy I have. This is quite a

> turnaround from someone who used to be nicknamed

> " zombie mama " bc I never, ever, ever, got a full

> night's sleep.

>

> I'm still doing research, learning more and more about

> raw (and the different theories as the best way to eat

> raw), but I'm glad I didn't have to " know " all the

> answers before I took the plunge. Not saying you are

> being super-cautious, I am just sharing my experience.

>

>

> swing

>

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I'm not Swing, but I'll share just a touch here, if you don't mind! When I went

from cooked vegan to fully raw, it was basically a food change for me. And that

change by itself in turn triggered positive changes for me. It was only as I

went on with raw foods that I began to add other practices that apparent have,

in turn, brought even more improvement. Still working on some of these areas...

:-)

 

Looking forward to Swing's reply....

 

Peace, Valerie

 

tesser2u <tesser2u wrote:

Swing,

 

I have some questions...I'm hoping the answers will help me in my

thinking. (I am struggling with the line between vegan and raw and

wanting to know if there is a substantial benefit to the " next step "

of going Raw)

 

 

 

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In a message dated 5/11/2005 9:47:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,

swingbolder writes:

 

<<I think I'd probably still feel great if I

incorporated stuff like tofu or organic eggs once or

twice a week, but I don't want to open the door to

cooked food, bc I can just see myself going down the

slippery slope to basically cooked food veganism,

which for me meant eating way too many starches. I had

a hard time with that. ****With all-raw, it's easy bc I've

just eliminated that option so the temptation isn't

even there****

-->I can see this would help me too. Make the commitment to be 100% raw

would automatically narrow the choices. I guess it's true that 'cooked food'

is

somewhat like an addiction. And in AA, an alcoholic would make a commitment

to give up *ALL alcohol*, right?!

 

 

 

<<This may sound fanatical to some but to me, it really

isn't, bc the longer I do all-raw the less I think

about food. The learning curve in terms of how to

prepare food and what to eat I feel is basically

behind me. So I just eat, and get on with my life.>>

 

 

 

--> This is *really good* to hear...getting back to 'simple'. I can imagine

just eating/knowing/living getting to the point of flowing w/o thinking much

about it at all....lovely! :)

 

xoxo,

denise

 

 

 

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Hi Tess,

 

I'd been vegan on and off (mostly on) since the late

80s. I ate meat when I was pregnant, and also during a

short period when I lived with my parents. Even when I

ate meat though, it was sparingly. I hadn't done junk

food in a really long time mostly bc it made me feel

like crap.

 

As far as exercise and fresh air, those things were

hit and miss too. During the years, I'd found that my

periods of most abundant health and vitality were when

I was heavily eating fresh fruits and vegetables. I

would enter these periods usually after supervised

juice fastings, which I did several times. I also

found that daily meditation and exercise (usally

walking or yoga) combined with eating a lot of fruits

and vegetables provided the best health.

 

I didn't intend to go raw this last time, but I got

really sick and did a juice fast in December. The

return to eating was gradual, and I found that I just

felt better on days I kept it totally raw. So I just

went and decided to stick to all-raw. I found that the

sinus problems and the insomnia, which had dogged me

for years, just disappeared. In the past, I could

alleviate my insomnia with vegan eating (with abundant

fruits and veggies) combined with exercise and

meditation. The amazing thing by going 100% raw is

that the insomnia disappeared with just the diet

change, without the meditation and exercise. So that

was great. I think I'd probably still feel great if I

incorporated stuff like tofu or organic eggs once or

twice a week, but I don't want to open the door to

cooked food, bc I can just see myself going down the

slippery slope to basically cooked food veganism,

which for me meant eating way too many starches. I had

a hard time with that. With all-raw, it's easy bc I've

just eliminated that option so the temptation isn't

even there. I do roll my own oats out of oat groats

though but I find that I don't really want to eat them

more than a couple of times a week, even though they

are delicious and I do love my oatmeal.

 

This may sound fanatical to some but to me, it really

isn't, bc the longer I do all-raw the less I think

about food. The learning curve in terms of how to

prepare food and what to eat I feel is basically

behind me. So I just eat, and get on with my life. I'm

still educating myself though about raw in general

(high fruit vs. high fat etc.) so that's why I'm on

this forum.

 

hth,

swing

 

 

--- tesser2u <tesser2u wrote:

> Swing,

>

> I have some questions...I'm hoping the answers will

> help me in my

> thinking. (I am struggling with the line between

> vegan and raw and

> wanting to know if there is a substantial benefit to

> the " next step "

> of going Raw)

>

> Before you went raw, what was your diet like? Was it

> SAD or

> vegan/organic? What is your family's diet like now?

> Comparing energy

> levels etc and wondering if they eat SAD, RF, vegan

> or whatever.

>

> Did you make any other major changes at the same

> time as RF, such as

> exercise, meditation, sunshine, fresh air? Or were

> you already doing

> those types of things?

>

> Thanks for any additional input you can give!

>

> Tess

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The other thing I wanted to mention is that for years

I'd struggled with being consistent with meditation,

yoga etc. But with raw it's like all those things have

become so much easier for me now to do consistently.

My body is supple, light, limber, strong. My focus is

better in meditation (and also in my piano playing).

It's like they all go together. Raw was the missing

piece that makes all those things fall into place. For

me anyway.

 

swing

 

--- Valerie Mills Daly <valdaly wrote:

> I'm not Swing, but I'll share just a touch here, if

> you don't mind! When I went from cooked vegan to

> fully raw, it was basically a food change for me.

> And that change by itself in turn triggered positive

> changes for me. It was only as I went on with raw

> foods that I began to add other practices that

> apparent have, in turn, brought even more

> improvement. Still working on some of these areas...

> :-)

>

> Looking forward to Swing's reply....

>

> Peace, Valerie

>

> tesser2u <tesser2u wrote:

> Swing,

>

> I have some questions...I'm hoping the answers will

> help me in my

> thinking. (I am struggling with the line between

> vegan and raw and

> wanting to know if there is a substantial benefit to

> the " next step "

> of going Raw)

>

>

>

> Make your home page

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

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