Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 In a message dated 7/7/04 3:37:28 AM, writes: > > Hello Guys > What do you guys think about " Raw Foodism " and is there one among > you? > well, it depends on what's driving you to do it. raw foods are certainly healthy for you, but a 100% raw foods diet is a tough one to keep balanced, nutritionally. you have to be very careful that you're getting everything you need. the main premise behind raw foodism is that cooking the food destroys vital enzymes and nutrients. while this is true for many foods, i'm more of an advocate of a ~70% raw diet. there are a lot of foods, such as tomatoes, that actually become MORE nutritious when you cook them (cooked tomatoes have an extremely high licopene content compared with raw tomatoes), and many healthy foods that are inedible unless you cook them. there are ways to get around this, such as soaking, but keep in mind that it is very time-consuming. just my $.02. hope this helps. melody http://www.flawlessfitness.com http://www.melodysmusic.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 As a raw foodist, and an expert in the field, I must disagree with some of what you say. I actually have a group here on called becomingyounger where I preach and teach about how food works. It is easier to keep a diet nutritionally balanced with a raw food diet!! THere is no question about that. Do you eat Nuts and seeds? I don't think that many people do!! That is where all the nutrition lies. Whle heat releases the lycopene content in tomatoes, there is no question that that loss of amino acids and enzymes to the heat is more harmful. Yes you are right, it can be time consuming, but sprouting is easy and sprouting changes grains from a starch to a glucose vegetable sugar, which is more readily absorbed by the body. It can be less time consuming actually than cooking if you plan and know what you are doing. We have been raised to cook our food, and it is hard to get out of the habit for many reasons. While cooking a food above 130 degrees destroys the enzymes,cooking a food above 285 degrees especially with starches causes a chemical change in the food and produces a cancer causing chemical called acrylamide. This is the same chemical that is used in plastics and other manufacturing uses. French Fries because of this are extremely harmful to the body. It is hard to eat grains that are sprouted yes I agree with that, but making essene bread and using spices to make it taste good can be wonderful. The essene bread that you buy in the stores is actually baked, but if you want to get an idea that is a good place to start. Anything that you eat cooked, I can make raw, yes some things take a little getting used to, but that is only because of long habits. MARK nadiana1 wrote: In a message dated 7/7/04 3:37:28 AM, writes: > > Hello Guys > What do you guys think about " Raw Foodism " and is there one among > you? > well, it depends on what's driving you to do it. raw foods are certainly healthy for you, but a 100% raw foods diet is a tough one to keep balanced, nutritionally. you have to be very careful that you're getting everything you need. the main premise behind raw foodism is that cooking the food destroys vital enzymes and nutrients. while this is true for many foods, i'm more of an advocate of a ~70% raw diet. there are a lot of foods, such as tomatoes, that actually become MORE nutritious when you cook them (cooked tomatoes have an extremely high licopene content compared with raw tomatoes), and many healthy foods that are inedible unless you cook them. there are ways to get around this, such as soaking, but keep in mind that it is very time-consuming. just my $.02. hope this helps. melody http://www.flawlessfitness.com http://www.melodysmusic.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Acrylamide is not created simply by heating food- it's created by heating OILS and STARCHES to very high temps. Specifically, by frying at very high temperature. That's why french fries have acrylamide. Already, you've made a propagandist statement that directly contradicts chemistry, so it';s very hard to believe anything else you say. Mark Jackson <thesportsguru47 wrote: As a raw foodist, and an expert in the field, I must disagree with some of what you say. I actually have a group here on called becomingyounger where I preach and teach about how food works. It is easier to keep a diet nutritionally balanced with a raw food diet!! THere is no question about that. Do you eat Nuts and seeds? I don't think that many people do!! That is where all the nutrition lies. Whle heat releases the lycopene content in tomatoes, there is no question that that loss of amino acids and enzymes to the heat is more harmful. Yes you are right, it can be time consuming, but sprouting is easy and sprouting changes grains from a starch to a glucose vegetable sugar, which is more readily absorbed by the body. It can be less time consuming actually than cooking if you plan and know what you are doing. We have been raised to cook our food, and it is hard to get out of the habit for many reasons. While cooking a food above 130 degrees destroys the enzymes,cooking a food above 285 degrees especially with starches causes a chemical change in the food and produces a cancer causing chemical called acrylamide. This is the same chemical that is used in plastics and other manufacturing uses. French Fries because of this are extremely harmful to the body. It is hard to eat grains that are sprouted yes I agree with that, but making essene bread and using spices to make it taste good can be wonderful. Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 I don't know why you feel you need to attack me, I have not attacked you, and for the record all foods heated above 285 degrees have acrylamide, not just starche, which would of course be french fries also., although acrylamide is most prevalent in starches. It is also manmade, used to make polyacrylamide which is used to filter water , make concrete pipes and other things. These are not propagansist statements but statements of fact from research. The question would be why have you taken this personally as you aparently have. reptile grrl <reptilegoddess wrote:Acrylamide is not created simply by heating food- it's created by heating OILS and STARCHES to very high temps. Specifically, by frying at very high temperature. That's why french fries have acrylamide. Already, you've made a propagandist statement that directly contradicts chemistry, so it';s very hard to believe anything else you say. Mark Jackson <thesportsguru47 wrote: As a raw foodist, and an expert in the field, I must disagree with some of what you say. I actually have a group here on called becomingyounger where I preach and teach about how food works. It is easier to keep a diet nutritionally balanced with a raw food diet!! THere is no question about that. Do you eat Nuts and seeds? I don't think that many people do!! That is where all the nutrition lies. Whle heat releases the lycopene content in tomatoes, there is no question that that loss of amino acids and enzymes to the heat is more harmful. Yes you are right, it can be time consuming, but sprouting is easy and sprouting changes grains from a starch to a glucose vegetable sugar, which is more readily absorbed by the body. It can be less time consuming actually than cooking if you plan and know what you are doing. We have been raised to cook our food, and it is hard to get out of the habit for many reasons. While cooking a food above 130 degrees destroys the enzymes,cooking a food above 285 degrees especially with starches causes a chemical change in the food and produces a cancer causing chemical called acrylamide. This is the same chemical that is used in plastics and other manufacturing uses. French Fries because of this are extremely harmful to the body. It is hard to eat grains that are sprouted yes I agree with that, but making essene bread and using spices to make it taste good can be wonderful. Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 I'm not attacking you, and I'm sorry that you feel that way. I *am* attacking your ideas, which is not the same thing. Attacking an idea does not mean that one is personally offended by the idea; in my case, it means that I am aware that the idea is not true information, and that I am aware of that. Mark Jackson <thesportsguru47 wrote: I don't know why you feel you need to attack me, I have not attacked you, and for the record all foods heated above 285 degrees have acrylamide, not just starche, which would of course be french fries also., although acrylamide is most prevalent in starches. It is also manmade, used to make polyacrylamide which is used to filter water , make concrete pipes and other things. These are not propagansist statements but statements of fact from research. The question would be why have you taken this personally as you aparently have. Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 You need to read the Canada health studies and the swedish studies, I would be happy to send those to you if you like!!! Acrylamide is present in beer, cereals, roasted nuts and other foods. Acrylamide is also used in packaging material, although a negligible amount is present in food. Fruits and vegetables are devoid of acrylamide reptile grrl <reptilegoddess wrote:I'm not attacking you, and I'm sorry that you feel that way. I *am* attacking your ideas, which is not the same thing. Attacking an idea does not mean that one is personally offended by the idea; in my case, it means that I am aware that the idea is not true information, and that I am aware of that. Mark Jackson <thesportsguru47 wrote: I don't know why you feel you need to attack me, I have not attacked you, and for the record all foods heated above 285 degrees have acrylamide, not just starche, which would of course be french fries also., although acrylamide is most prevalent in starches. It is also manmade, used to make polyacrylamide which is used to filter water , make concrete pipes and other things. These are not propagansist statements but statements of fact from research. The question would be why have you taken this personally as you aparently have. Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 Yes shame about the honey isn't it. If there is a buck in it somewhere, man will find a way to adulterate it to make more of it won't he!!! That is why I only buy honey or pollen from local beekeepers, ones that I know, and know what they do. So glad that you extracated yourself from the situation in Yellowstone. Nice job!!! If you are ever in Las Vegas let me know, well have some carrot juice together!! LOL David Star <hempprince wrote:Great to hear from you Mark and appreciate you passion for life as well. Two weeks ago I was lost in the middle of Yellowstone park after hitting a snow drift obscuring the path at 10,000 feet. I am not a weight lifter or anything but was able to walk for 30 hours living off ice and half a granola bar while traversing steep peaks in icy conditions without sleep. [my father was so obeise at my age that he couldn't walk]. The other hiker [age 23]who was with me to search for someone else lost was in decent shape but took 4 days to recover. The first thing I bought when back at Canyon was a book on wild ediable plants btw. I understand that we can make personal changes to increase lifespan and quality of life. I live within my comfort level which includes daily walking, etc. Still,I am not so sure I want to live forever in this current incarnation though am shooting for 104 if I can take care of myself. Purhaps I am a bit passive or less committed than you but I am enjoying my life. Btw, what I don't like about honey is that many keepers have no compunction about replacing the honey with white sugar in the hives which I think is a disservice to the bees besides tampering with the natural way. I think it all comes down to personal choices and I am at peace with my own though always open to growth and change. Peace bro, David* , Mark Jackson <thesportsguru47> wrote: > There is much truth in what you say. I do eat bee pollen which although is not an animal product perse, it is gathered by animals. I do also eat honey, which I suppose puts me in a non vegan category, I suppose we are going to have to agree to disagree on some issues however. I look at life differently than you perhaps or than almost all people. Most people say as you do that at 52 I am healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Thanks for the offer... might take you up on it. In the summer, I do lots of fruit and veggies and there's nothing like a fresh smoothie or carrot juice with a bit of wheatgrass [a sweet rush]. DS , Mark Jackson <thesportsguru47> wrote: If you are ever in Las Vegas let me know, well have some carrot juice together!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 on 5/20/05 11:28 PM, Gypsi at www.aromaticwings.com at aromatic_wings wrote: > well if it is then i am sorry for posting it.. it is about a family that is > being punished for eating raw.. and having their child taken from them... and > abused while in that states custody... also specifically being told the child > has a special diet and they would not feed that diet to the child... Gypsi, I'm sorry. I did not realize what the content was. I have a general aversion to being asked to do anything on a list, but petitions and chain letters are my peeves. I have no pet peeves! That's just me, I guess. Micki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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