Cayenne: medicine or irritant? - To add .. (From Kay)

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In a message dated 5/25/2005 8:01:57 A.M. Central Standard Time,

korangeli writes:

 

<People can heal themselves of cancer over-night because they remove

the belief of Dis-ease from their consciousness>.

 

 

 

 

-->Okay...maybe I'm just not 'enlightened' but this sounds hmmmm....a bit

over the top...The whole post was....well maybe just over my head or

something. Maybe I need to pick up some books on this and let it sink in. But,

unlike

the fact that theideas of rawfood/health connection just made sense to

me...this made NO sense to me xoxo, denise

 

 

 

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Debbie wrote:

 

<<well, anyway... what I am trying to say in this long winded writing is to

just follow your path and the journey will take you places you never

imagined... just keep up the journey.. you and I have just begun this one, on

this

path.. who knows....?? we just might have found the right one this time... I

am right there with you... and all others learning... I am here for support if

you need it... sad tho that it takes so long and one has to fight through

the thorns to get to the right path.. but then would we appreicate it if we

didn't have to fight for it...>>

 

{{{{ thanks so much for this gift }}}}

 

xoxo, denise

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> yes, Persian, we will have to disagree:

 

" substances " do

> not act upon the body, the body acts upon the " substance " .

Whatever

> effects are being credited to any herbs, is the body either acting

> upon that substance, and/or using some part of it for its own

> internal processing.

 

> all the best,

>

> Bob

 

Kay here,

I would just like to add something..

 

If one uses a herb or other " natural " plant or synthetic to treat a

condition, then one is suggesting there is some kind of problem in

the body that NEEDS " fixing " . If this problem needs " fixing " then we

are suggesting that there IS a problem to fix and therefore

confirming Dis-ease.

 

We are God/Spirit manifesting as form. There is no imperfection

except that which we make in our misperception of perfect wholeness.

Healing takes place by realizing that we are not IN the world but

that the world is in US.

- Look in the mirror and see your reflection. You cannot change your

hairstyle by touching the reflection. You can only change your

hairstyle by touching your real hair - then watching the reflection

appear.

 

As long as one continues to use allopathic methods (i.e

applying " treatments " to rid the body of symptoms) then one is

continuing the cycle of Dis-ease. We are then confirming that there

are problems to fix, requiring substances for application to these

conditions.

 

Healing takes place by realising the Divine essence of Creation as

perfect and whole.

Donot apply any herb/plant or substance to " assist " the body in

healing itself.

However certain herbs, plants and substances may well APPEAR to

assist the body if a strong BELIEF of such is held. This is what

happens in the event of Placebo.

Whatever one gives power to - that " thing " (energy) will become a

power unto them.

People can heal themselves of cancer over-night because they remove

the belief of Dis-ease from their consciousness.

 

In any event, when the body is left alone to complete healing in it's

own way; The " laws " of the nature ( " God " ) will come into force thus

re-alining the body into the complete perfection of oneness.

Quite literally " Anything is possible with God "

 

However; " God " (and remember we are the manifested form of..)cannot

experience " itself " without the absence of. And so we will often put

ourselves in " darkness " so as to experience light.

This is the whole point of each individual's life - The point that

one makes.

If a person wishes to create a 'point' out of herbalism or homeopathy

(for example) then the passion of this topic is their point -

Therefore having every meaning for its existance to that person and

individuals interested in it.

 

Let us be conscious in making our own point, based on that which we

wish to experience.

If one wishes to use herbalism as a way of experience - so be it.

Just be aware of whatever one is chosing to create at any given time

on ones journey through life.. xx

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Very well put... and I must say I am proof of the journey... I have always been

one to believe in the herbal way and a more natural way of doing things.. even

though i've defeated my purpose in how I ate everyday.. This is due to lack of

my knowledge in what affects what.. the more I learn the more I evolve, I

believe.

 

My higher power has always been God but I never read the bible til recently.

Never knew what was said about our food etc..this gave me great insite to nature

and foods..

 

I had done some reading on the " benefits of herbs " years ago and found they were

very helpful. but I something was missing..for me.

 

In my quest to know the best and most positive truth of how to lose weight, I

have come across many things.. Some were sounding good. some DIDsome good... but

my body felt really bad while following the ways... (fad diets) then there were

always reprocussions... as with anything..I now do not worry about weight and

concentrate on my foods to keep me healthy and clean from the inside out.. and

if everyone is correct.. I will eventually lose..

 

Now, since my journey has led me to raw foodism... I find I believe in the

hygenic way the most.. and do believe that alot can be accomplished with mind

over matter. Just getting the mind to cooperate has been my problem.. I wish I

could quote and remember where I found things so as to guide others.. but my

brain doesn't do that yet.. but I do remember reading somewhere that the mind

will dwell on the negative unless we give the positive for it to consider.

Constantly..This negativity will cause all kinds of problems in our thinking,

health, actions..

 

to Denise.. I suggest..not that I am anyone to listen to... but anyway... that

you continue on your journey and follow this path that you have come across.

Continue to feed your body and get that balance... also while doing so.. ask

your higher power to guide your mind to more positive thoughts.. more healing

thoughts... My dad read a book years ago about the " power of positive thinking. "

I do not think I have read it.. but have found my life better for thinkin on a

more positive side.which if you knew me well you would know that has been hard

for me through my life/....

 

.. I do not have a serious health problem and pray i never will... I hope I am

on a path now that will lead me to fantastic health.I have read a book

called..Psyco-Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz... I was having very depressing

thoughts and I was trying to figure out why I keep sabbotaging myself when I

diet... I do believe it has helped some.. tho I need to work more.. hey I am 49

(almost) and it took me 49 years to get this way it's gonna take some time to

get around this mountain...diet people say to form a picture or have a picture

of how you want to look.. i never could understand or didn't believe this would

work for me.. reading this book sure helped me understand the reasoning behind

it.. now to do it... heavy sigh.. easier said then done.. the mind is a hard nut

to crack..

 

well, anyway... what I am trying to say in this long winded writing is to just

follow your path and the journey will take you places you never imagined... just

keep up the journey.. you and I have just begun this one, on this path.. who

knows....?? we just might have found the right one this time... I am right there

with you... and all others learning... I am here for support if you need it...

sad tho that it takes so long and one has to fight through the thorns to get to

the right path.. but then would we appreicate it if we didn't have to fight for

it...

 

debbie

 

korangeli <korangeli wrote:

 

Kay here,

<<<<<<<<snip>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

We are God/Spirit manifesting as form. There is no imperfection

except that which we make in our misperception of perfect wholeness.

Healing takes place by realizing that we are not IN the world but

that the world is in US. <<<<<<<<<snip>>>>>>,