More happy raw things

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In a message dated 5/27/2005 7:47:51 A.M. Central Standard Time,

lanie writes:

 

<<I was taking a walk down Broadway(I live in New York City) and happened

onto a few sidewalk fruit stands, and then into a nice market. I was so happy

to see all the fruits I had missed since last summer, and

forgotten...persimmons, white cherries etc. There's a whole lot of fun stuff

coming now.

Watermelon included. Now I can't wait for the good weather and all the juicy

fruits I

get to have.

I celebrated by eating a juicy mango over the kitchen sink as soon as I got

home. I took some juicy pineapple to dinner at Scrabble club, and later had

some avocado and tomato with tiny tender lettuce leaves from the farmers

market along with some mint from same.

Even though we are wearing coats and hats this week. Summer's coming. Yay!>>>

 

{{{Thank you Lanie}}}}...I can just **SEE** you there, beaming and joyful at

the sight of all the new summer fruit in the market...then so happy and

content, with sweet mango juice dripping from your chin Thanks for

sharing...gave me a huge smile and a very happy feeling to visualize you this

morning

-that I'm sure to carry right through the day! : )

 

xoxo,

denise

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I just thought I'd share another happy raw thing that happened yesterday. I was

just beginning to feel a little sad that dates were going out of season, and

thinking how much I would miss them. I was taking a walk down Broadway(I live in

New York City) and happened onto a few sidewalk fruit stands, and then into a

nice market. I was so happy to see all the fruits I had missed since last

summer, and forgotten...persimmons, white cherries etc. There's a whole lot of

fun stuff coming now. Watermelon included. Now I can't wait for the good weather

and all the juicy fruits I get to have.

I celebrated by eating a juicy mango over the kitchen sink as soon as I got

home. I took some juicy pineapple to dinner at Scrabble club, and later had some

avocado and tomato with tiny tender lettuce leaves from the farmers market along

with some mint from same.

Even though we are wearing coats and hats this week. Summer's coming. Yay!

Lane

-

Valerie Mills Daly

rawfood

Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:05 PM

Re: [Raw Food] Re: Cayenne: medicine or irritant? For Valerie+Denise

 

 

Hi, Kay,

 

Thanks, Kay, I guess I don't see it as a problem. I'm more of a cause and

effect person, myself. For instance, re: raw foods and health--I know that when

I eat twinkies, the consequences are very different than when I eat bananas. :-)

 

The difficulty I have with the perspective you have shared is that it tends to

lay more guilt on someone who attempts belief, remains unwell, and blames it on

their own lack of belief. I have witnessed this on more than one occasion, and

it is most painful. I agree that a positive mindset is very important, but

beliefs without appropriate action usually ends up with less than beneficial

results, in my experience. (Sort of like the faith without works is dead idea.)

 

Probably the most intense experience of this kind of thinking happened when I

was 20, and an eighteen-year-old friend of mine was struggling with cancer. It

had developed and spread very quickly, and during her last couple of months,

well-meaning friends from her church came periodically to encourage her, and

repeatedly said that if she only had enough faith, she would be healed. These

were folks she had trusted over the years, and so now she was left basically

holding the bag--the reason she was not being healed was her own fault, because

of her lack of faith, because she did not believe enough. So not only did she

have to deal with her own mortality, pain, anguish of this disease; she died

believing it was her own fault.

 

So, while I can respect that you have a different point of view on all of

this, I guess I feel like I had to at least once say that I find it can be a

hurtful path to go down. The mind is amazingly powerful, and I am confident that

we are nowhere near accessing the power that is there. But I do not think I can

accept the claims regarding belief that you espouse without evidence, and so

far, I have no such evidence.

 

[Deep breath]

 

Sorry if this seemed too intense; there is nothing personal at all intended

here. I just needed to share my own perspective.

 

Peace, Valerie

 

korangeli <korangeli wrote:

rawfood , Valerie Mills Daly <valdaly> wrote:

> Hi, Denise, I appreciate your concern!

 

I agree with you, I don't think simply believing myself well will do

the trick. :-)

 

THERE-IN LIES YOUR 'PROBLEM'- The self fulfilling prophecy of belief.

Love Kay. xx

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi, Lane, thanks for sharing your scrumptious day! I had a little mint in my

salad yesterday as well...mmmmmmm.....it's amazing how good something can be

when you have not had it in a long time.

 

Peace, Valerie

 

lane lynn <lanie wrote:

I was so happy to see all the fruits I had missed since last summer, and

forgotten...persimmons, white cherries etc. There's a whole lot of fun stuff

coming now. Watermelon included. Now I can't wait for the good weather and all

the juicy fruits I get to have.

I celebrated by eating a juicy mango over the kitchen sink as soon as I got

home. I took some juicy pineapple to dinner at Scrabble club, and later had some

avocado and tomato with tiny tender lettuce leaves from the farmers market along

with some mint from same.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Oh yes! Summer is a happy time for raw food people.

All that good, juicy, sweet fruit. An you are in NYC

where Haitian mangoes (the greenish yellow paisley

shpped ones) are everywhere. How lucky you are! I make

it a point to pick up about ten of those during my

weekly trips to the city.

 

And cherries, strawberries, blueberris, peaches,

plums, summer is just the greatest.

 

swing

 

--- lane lynn <lanie wrote:

 

> I just thought I'd share another happy raw thing

> that happened yesterday. I was just beginning to

> feel a little sad that dates were going out of

> season, and thinking how much I would miss them. I

> was taking a walk down Broadway(I live in New York

> City) and happened onto a few sidewalk fruit stands,

> and then into a nice market. I was so happy to see

> all the fruits I had missed since last summer, and

> forgotten...persimmons, white cherries etc. There's

> a whole lot of fun stuff coming now. Watermelon

> included. Now I can't wait for the good weather and

> all the juicy fruits I get to have.

> I celebrated by eating a juicy mango over the

> kitchen sink as soon as I got home. I took some

> juicy pineapple to dinner at Scrabble club, and

> later had some avocado and tomato with tiny tender

> lettuce leaves from the farmers market along with

> some mint from same.

> Even though we are wearing coats and hats this

> week. Summer's coming. Yay!

> Lane

> -

> Valerie Mills Daly

> rawfood

> Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:05 PM

> Re: [Raw Food] Re: Cayenne: medicine or

> irritant? For Valerie+Denise

>

>

> Hi, Kay,

>

> Thanks, Kay, I guess I don't see it as a problem.

> I'm more of a cause and effect person, myself. For

> instance, re: raw foods and health--I know that when

> I eat twinkies, the consequences are very different

> than when I eat bananas. :-)

>

> The difficulty I have with the perspective you

> have shared is that it tends to lay more guilt on

> someone who attempts belief, remains unwell, and

> blames it on their own lack of belief. I have

> witnessed this on more than one occasion, and it is

> most painful. I agree that a positive mindset is

> very important, but beliefs without appropriate

> action usually ends up with less than beneficial

> results, in my experience. (Sort of like the faith

> without works is dead idea.)

>

> Probably the most intense experience of this kind

> of thinking happened when I was 20, and an

> eighteen-year-old friend of mine was struggling with

> cancer. It had developed and spread very quickly,

> and during her last couple of months, well-meaning

> friends from her church came periodically to

> encourage her, and repeatedly said that if she only

> had enough faith, she would be healed. These were

> folks she had trusted over the years, and so now she

> was left basically holding the bag--the reason she

> was not being healed was her own fault, because of

> her lack of faith, because she did not believe

> enough. So not only did she have to deal with her

> own mortality, pain, anguish of this disease; she

> died believing it was her own fault.

>

> So, while I can respect that you have a different

> point of view on all of this, I guess I feel like I

> had to at least once say that I find it can be a

> hurtful path to go down. The mind is amazingly

> powerful, and I am confident that we are nowhere

> near accessing the power that is there. But I do not

> think I can accept the claims regarding belief that

> you espouse without evidence, and so far, I have no

> such evidence.

>

> [Deep breath]

>

> Sorry if this seemed too intense; there is

> nothing personal at all intended here. I just needed

> to share my own perspective.

>

> Peace, Valerie

>

> korangeli <korangeli wrote:

> rawfood , Valerie Mills Daly

> <valdaly> wrote:

> > Hi, Denise, I appreciate your concern!

>

> I agree with you, I don't think simply believing

> myself well will do

> the trick. :-)

>

> THERE-IN LIES YOUR 'PROBLEM'- The self fulfilling

> prophecy of belief.

> Love Kay. xx

>

[Guest guest]

Oh yes! Summer is a happy time for raw food people.

All that good, juicy, sweet fruit. An you are in NYC

where Haitian mangoes (the greenish yellow paisley

shpped ones) are everywhere. How lucky you are! I make

it a point to pick up about ten of those during my

weekly trips to the city.

_____

Educational note: those " greenish-yellow mangos " are only ripe when they are

yellow, not greenish, and they do not ripen off the tree, no matter what

anyone tells you. Buy the yellow ones, even the ones with the slightly

parched skins that no one else will buy. Those are the ripest -- and the

best!!

 

Elchanan

 

 

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Thank you and all for your supportive responses. It is indeed a happy time. I

went walking all through NYC yesterday. My excercise routine is walking and I

combine it with finding good raw sources and street watching.

Yesterday I was walking to Bonobos, which has such delicious raw things and

happened upon a Critical Mass Bike-a-thon. That was a lot of fun to watch, and

then on to the book store for work for an up coming course. (I teach SAT prep

courses). I sipped fresh raw tomato bisque soup along the way.

I think I am so happy because before I went raw I spent most of my days in

bed. Now I can't imagine doing such a thing. What a gift this is.

I'm off for 8 days to teach so you may not hear from me in a while, but I

will hold you all in my heart. Have a good raw week all. Lane

-

we3deeves

rawfood

Friday, May 27, 2005 8:56 AM

Re: [Raw Food] More happy raw things

 

 

In a message dated 5/27/2005 7:47:51 A.M. Central Standard Time,

lanie writes:

 

<<I was taking a walk down Broadway(I live in New York City) and happened

onto a few sidewalk fruit stands, and then into a nice market. I was so happy

to see all the fruits I had missed since last summer, and

forgotten...persimmons, white cherries etc. There's a whole lot of fun stuff

coming now.

Watermelon included. Now I can't wait for the good weather and all the juicy

fruits I

get to have.

I celebrated by eating a juicy mango over the kitchen sink as soon as I got

home. I took some juicy pineapple to dinner at Scrabble club, and later had

some avocado and tomato with tiny tender lettuce leaves from the farmers

market along with some mint from same.

Even though we are wearing coats and hats this week. Summer's coming. Yay!>>>

 

{{{Thank you Lanie}}}}...I can just **SEE** you there, beaming and joyful at

the sight of all the new summer fruit in the market...then so happy and

content, with sweet mango juice dripping from your chin Thanks for

sharing...gave me a huge smile and a very happy feeling to visualize you this

morning

-that I'm sure to carry right through the day! : )

 

xoxo,

denise

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Actually I eat them when they are going a bit orange. My mangos yesterday were

orange-ish. But I am part monkey I think and I like all my fruit quite ripe. My

bananas need lots of brown spots on them; my plums need to be very soft and

squishy ie sweet sweet sweet; my blueberries, ideally, are big and bursting with

juice. OK I'll stop.

This lifestyle is a celebration! Lane

PS I've only felt this good about one other thing, and that's unschooling.

PPS If you haven;'t already, I urge you to read the China Study by T Colin

Campbell (thankyou Bob)

-

INFO @ Vibrant Life

rawfood

Friday, May 27, 2005 11:55 AM

RE: [Raw Food] More happy raw things

 

 

Oh yes! Summer is a happy time for raw food people.

All that good, juicy, sweet fruit. An you are in NYC

where Haitian mangoes (the greenish yellow paisley

shpped ones) are everywhere. How lucky you are! I make

it a point to pick up about ten of those during my

weekly trips to the city.

_____

Educational note: those " greenish-yellow mangos " are only ripe when they are

yellow, not greenish, and they do not ripen off the tree, no matter what

anyone tells you. Buy the yellow ones, even the ones with the slightly

parched skins that no one else will buy. Those are the ripest -- and the

best!!

 

Elchanan

 

 

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rawfood , " lane lynn " <lanie@p...> wrote:

> Actually I eat them when they are going a bit orange. My mangos

yesterday were orange-ish. But I am part monkey I think and I like all

my fruit quite ripe. My bananas need lots of brown spots on them; my

plums need to be very soft and squishy ie sweet sweet sweet; my

blueberries, ideally, are big and bursting with juice. OK I'll stop.

> This lifestyle is a celebration! Lane

> PS I've only felt this good about one other thing, and that's

unschooling.

> PPS If you haven;'t already, I urge you to read the China Study by T

Colin Campbell (thankyou Bob)

 

 

Hey Lane!

thanks for the thanks! My *wife* is even reading it (The China Study)

now...Hurray! (and, I think, it was originally recommended to me by

Elchanan.)

 

all the best,

 

Bob

[Guest guest]

wow, lane, that's fantastic! i probably missed this before, sorry... but, how

long was it before you got out of bed and out and about? also, were you taking

meds - did you stop them cold turkey when you started the diet? thanks!

debbie in KC >>

 

 

 

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