Seizures, kidneys, cleanses, etc. (WAS: poor kidney function--Bob?)

[Guest guest]

The journeyman from Florida, lauds his esteemed colleague from

California!

 

well said, Elchanan!

 

all the best,

Bob

[Guest guest]

INFO @ Vibrant Life wrote:

 

> _____

> Hi all,

> Out of the worldview of modern " medical science, " we are taught that every

> " condition " has its own unique existence, as if it were some " thing out

> there " to be " cured " or " treated. " Perhaps it would interest you,

> Debbie, to

> know that your kidney and seizure problems are directly connected, even

> though the health folks, mainstream an alternative, and almost all RF

> teachers would miss this point.

>

> Assuming that the seizures are frontal lobe (the common pattern), then in

> almost every case, these seizures actually originate in the transverse

> colon. Once aware of this, most people who experience seizures or

> auras can

> actually begin to notice a sense of nausea or similar abdominal discomfort

> just prior to the seizure or aura.

>

> Perhaps you have heard of the " enteric nervous system, " sometimes also

> called the " abdominal brain " ? Our abdomen area is filled with its own

> complete nervous system, consisting of at least 20 million distinct nerves

> and regulated by a complete system of local ganglia. It is these ganglia,

> and NOT brain, that run most of our digestive, liver, kidney, and other

> visceral functions. It is physically impossible that the brain is

> responsible, there are simply not enough nerves and the distance,

> i.e., the

> response time, is too great.

>

> What actually happens is that the enteric nervous system signals the

> brain,

> which in turn signals our most ancient systemwide messaging system, our

> endocrine glands. These then secret various hormones, the basic

> message-carriers of all complex animal life. (I know, I know, you may be

> thinking that my comments conflict entirely with the brain-centered

> concept

> we have all been taught. You are correct, that is indeed what I am

> saying.)

>

> So if there is a problem in the digestive system, for instance, that

> problem

> may be MIRRORED up in the brain. I imagine just about all of us,

> during our

> SAD days, has experienced a holiday meal, or all-you-can-eat, or whatever,

> where we stuffed ourselves until we became comatose ( " fell asleep " is what

> we called it). In fact, our system simply ran out of resources --

> energy and

> otherwise -- and could no longer deal with all the toxins we had eaten and

> keep us awake at the same time. This is basically how anesthesia

> works, too

> And I imagine most of us recall that the effects of such an experience

> might

> last for days.

>

> In such an instance, the enteric nervous system demands highest priority,

> the brain RESPONDS (not manages) by shutting down a host of other

> functions,

> and we walk around barely able to function until the cleanup is at least

> substantively completed.

>

> Many of us experience twitching, for example as we fall asleep, resulting

> from disruptions in our system's capacity to transmit proper nerve

> signals.

> Just imagine someone whose system is disrupted in this way, only more

> severely, and you have seizures. Looking from within this picture, it is

> easy (I hope) to begin to envision that the solution to most common

> seizures

> lies in our diet -- and in physical activity.

>

> Simply put into the digestive tube that which moves through quickly and

> easily, and avoid all else. What moves through quickly and easily? That

> which contains the most water. And of course, that would be fruits. Add a

> healthy dose of TENDER (as in EASY-TO-PROCESS) greens, and you're all

> set.

>

> Is there more to a complete, lasting solution? Yes, it goes beyond food,

> into physical activity and lung capacity -- which means oxygenation of

> your

> system and especially your brain -- and also into your psyche, your

> subconscious programming.

>

> More on those another time, if people express interest.

>

> How do the kidneys tie in? Well, consider the nature and purpose of

> kidneys.

> They are basically mechanical filters -- they remove physical

> particles from

> the blood and prepare those particles for elimination. What physical

> particles do we mean? Primarily, whatever we ate and absorbed that is

> foreign matter to the body. And where does such particulate originate?

> Primarily in our food (and water, if of poor quality).

>

> And what is the one and ONLY food group that even the World Health

> Organization considers truly nontoxic (containing no foreign matter)?

> Fruits!

>

> So once again, love and appreciate those symptoms, learn all you can from

> them, then when you are genuinely ready, let them go -- for they will,

> indeed, go when the circumstances are right

>

> Best to all,

> Elchanan

 

==========================

Hi Elchanan,

 

Excellent post and really good data. Thanks for posting this and

especially for your insight.

 

--

Peace be with you, Elchanan.

 

Don " Quai " Eitner

 

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

[Guest guest]

Don Quai Monday, June 06, 2005 10:01 PM Re: [Raw Food]

Seizures, kidneys, cleanses, etc. (WAS: Re: poor kidney function--Bob?)

 

Hi Elchanan,

 

Excellent post and really good data. Thanks for posting this and

especially for your insight.

 

--

Peace be with you, Elchanan.

 

Don " Quai " Eitner

 

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the

animal and wakes in man. "

_____

Thanks, Don, for your acknowledgement and appreciation. I know you read

these posts with a careful eye, and so your feedback means a great deal to

me.

Elchanan

 

 

 

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The journeyman from Florida, lauds his esteemed colleague from California!

 

well said, Elchanan!

 

all the best,

Bob

_____

LOL, and thanks!

Elchanan

 

 

 

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This is excellent info., Elchanan.

 

I would like to add that most researchers (including Dr. Michael

Gershon, author of: " The Second Brain " ) estimate the amount of

neurons to be around 200 million (which substaniates the importance

of your assertion even more).

 

Also, seizures are not necessarily associated with the frontal lobe.

I cite from the following article which shows: at least some seizure activity

is normally associated with other regions of the brain (e.g., the temporal);

and that the link between seizures and the abdomen isn't clearly established

yet (though I believe your assertion is probably true):

 

“The pathophysiology of abdominal epilepsy remains unclear. Temporal lobe

seizure activity usually arises in or involves the amygdala. It is not

surprising, therefore, that patients who have seizures involving the temporal

lobe have GI symptoms, since discharges arising in the amygdala can be

transmitted to the gut via dense direct projections to the dorsal motor nucleus

of the vagus. In addition, sympathetic pathways from the amygdala to the GI

tract can be activated via the hypothalamus. On the other hand, it is not clear

that the initial disturbance in abdominal epilepsy arises in the brain. There

are direct sensory pathways from the bowel via the vagus nerve to the solitary

nucleus of the medulla which is heavily connected to the amygdala. These can be

activated during intestinal contractions” (Peppercorn & Herzog, 1989, p. 1296).

 

" One of the primary problems in understanding abdominal epilepsy is clearly

defining the relationship of the abdominal symptoms to the seizure activity in

the brain. In other words, what is the pathophysiology of abdominal epilepsy?

Is the essential pathology in certain areas of the brain which happen to be

connected to the abdominal organs? Or, is the primary pathology in the abdomen,

which is conveyed through connecting nerve fibers to the brain, resulting in

epileptic seizures? "

 

http://www.meridianinstitute.com/ceu/ceu12abd.html

 

 

Human beings exhibit a tendency, IMO, toward a certain hubris,

and I believe we need to keep ourselves under critical regulation.

 

swaraj,

 

tev

 

 

" INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote:

Debbie Monday, June 06, 2005 7:35 AM To:

Rawschool Subject:

[Rawschool] Re: poor kidney function--Bob?

Bob,

 

Was wondering in your journey through raw... what things did you go through

in regards to your problem with nephritis when you were you? what kinds of

reoccuring anything in the form of detox? wondeirng what I might be need to

be expecting.. I find sometimes my kidneys hurt (ache) a bit sometimes if I

am in a more blended route during the day.could this be a sign?

 

Also I am wondering (again) if anyone had had seizures in their life and

what kinds of detox symptom would show a cleansing from something like

this.. the ones I had had ..they said they could not figure out why I had

them...I have not taken meds for them for two years now... I took myself off

because i knew the med was not good for the liver..

_____

Hi all,

Out of the worldview of modern " medical science, " we are taught that every

" condition " has its own unique existence, as if it were some " thing out

there " to be " cured " or " treated. " Perhaps it would interest you, Debbie, to

know that your kidney and seizure problems are directly connected, even

though the health folks, mainstream an alternative, and almost all RF

teachers would miss this point.

 

Assuming that the seizures are frontal lobe (the common pattern), then in

almost every case, these seizures actually originate in the transverse

colon. Once aware of this, most people who experience seizures or auras can

actually begin to notice a sense of nausea or similar abdominal discomfort

just prior to the seizure or aura.

 

Perhaps you have heard of the " enteric nervous system, " sometimes also

called the " abdominal brain " ? Our abdomen area is filled with its own

complete nervous system, consisting of at least 20 million distinct nerves

and regulated by a complete system of local ganglia. It is these ganglia,

and NOT brain, that run most of our digestive, liver, kidney, and other

visceral functions. It is physically impossible that the brain is

responsible, there are simply not enough nerves and the distance, i.e., the

response time, is too great.

 

What actually happens is that the enteric nervous system signals the brain,

which in turn signals our most ancient systemwide messaging system, our

endocrine glands. These then secret various hormones, the basic

message-carriers of all complex animal life. (I know, I know, you may be

thinking that my comments conflict entirely with the brain-centered concept

we have all been taught. You are correct, that is indeed what I am saying.)

 

So if there is a problem in the digestive system, for instance, that problem

may be MIRRORED up in the brain. I imagine just about all of us, during our

SAD days, has experienced a holiday meal, or all-you-can-eat, or whatever,

where we stuffed ourselves until we became comatose ( " fell asleep " is what

we called it). In fact, our system simply ran out of resources -- energy and

otherwise -- and could no longer deal with all the toxins we had eaten and

keep us awake at the same time. This is basically how anesthesia works, too

And I imagine most of us recall that the effects of such an experience might

last for days.

 

In such an instance, the enteric nervous system demands highest priority,

the brain RESPONDS (not manages) by shutting down a host of other functions,

and we walk around barely able to function until the cleanup is at least

substantively completed.

 

Many of us experience twitching, for example as we fall asleep, resulting

from disruptions in our system's capacity to transmit proper nerve signals.

Just imagine someone whose system is disrupted in this way, only more

severely, and you have seizures. Looking from within this picture, it is

easy (I hope) to begin to envision that the solution to most common seizures

lies in our diet -- and in physical activity.

 

Simply put into the digestive tube that which moves through quickly and

easily, and avoid all else. What moves through quickly and easily? That

which contains the most water. And of course, that would be fruits. Add a

healthy dose of TENDER (as in EASY-TO-PROCESS) greens, and you're all set.

 

Is there more to a complete, lasting solution? Yes, it goes beyond food,

into physical activity and lung capacity -- which means oxygenation of your

system and especially your brain -- and also into your psyche, your

subconscious programming.

 

More on those another time, if people express interest.

 

How do the kidneys tie in? Well, consider the nature and purpose of kidneys.

They are basically mechanical filters -- they remove physical particles from

the blood and prepare those particles for elimination. What physical

particles do we mean? Primarily, whatever we ate and absorbed that is

foreign matter to the body. And where does such particulate originate?

Primarily in our food (and water, if of poor quality).

 

And what is the one and ONLY food group that even the World Health

Organization considers truly nontoxic (containing no foreign matter)?

Fruits!

 

So once again, love and appreciate those symptoms, learn all you can from

them, then when you are genuinely ready, let them go -- for they will,

indeed, go when the circumstances are right

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

 

 

 

 

The experience of dynamic religious living transforms the mediocre individual

into a personality of idealistic power. Religion ministers to the progress of

all through fostering the progress of each individual, and the progress of each

is augmented through the achievement of all. [The Urantia Book: 1094:1]

 

 

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