I need advise, I am afraid from Dr opinions..loooong!

[Guest guest]

June 25, 2007 I woke up feeling like I was getting the flu….I was

very excited as I had not had a good detox since I fell off the 100%

raw wagon just over 4 years ago. I was beginning to think that I did

not have enough body energy to go thru a healing since having gone

back to the SAD way of eating and failing miserably at any attempt to

get back to raw for more than a week or two. By day 2 of this healing

crisis I awoke with severely swollen hands, wrists, feet and ankles.

The pain was an intense burning with tingling, severe aching and

numbness in my arms, hands and fingers. I pretty much figured I had

some form of arthritis (self diagnosis…I'm adopted). I immediately

went back to eating all raw during the day w/some steamed veggies at

night. I thought I would start to see some improvement but by day 21

I could no longer use my hands to even open a bottle of water and the

pain was now keeping me from sleeping.

 

I went to a Dr and she took one look at my swollen hands and feet and

told me that this was definitely " not " arthritis but secondary heart

failure and possibly kidney failure. She did an EKG and it showed my

heart was skipping beats. She drew some blood and sent me home w/a 24

hour heart monitor attached. This was on a Friday. That night the

pain was so bad I did not sleep at all. I went to Urgent Care on

Saturday morning according to her voice message and the Dr there told

me I had one of the worse cases of symmetrical arthritis he had seen

in a long time. I told him that the 1st Dr said I had secondary

heart failure but that I had experienced heart palpations off an on

since I was in my 20's and I'm 60 now. He said he didn't feel the

heart thing was an issue. He sent me home with pain pills and a 10

day bout of steroids and told me to find a new primary care Dr. (The

swelling and pain stopped w/in 24 hours. Now at day 10 the swelling

is coming back as is the pain and claw like hands.)

 

I was able to find a new Dr the next day and she heard my heart being

weird but an EKG w/her showed nothing. All the tests & X-rays came

back negative for arthritis and all blood work OK. They still want me

to see arthritis & cardio specialists. They are telling me that they

feel I have Rheumatoid arthritis and that it can not be cured but can

be kept under control thru drugs. That also I may need a pace-maker.

 

 

My questions are: should I see the arthritis specialists to find out

if I really do have arthritis? But scariest of all is the heart

thing…..should I follow thru and have the treadmill test done and

see just what is going on w/my heart or are the steroids I took

making my heart wacko? Or, should I find a good fasting clinic and

let my body heal naturally and if you all think that is the best

thing to do….does anyone know of a good fasting clinic here in the

states that they can recommend? Thank you for any advice,

information, input. Breezi

[Guest guest]

Breezi,

 

 

 

Fasting may be the best way to go, but first why don’t you consult with a

Natural Hygiene specialist? Many of them run fasting retreats and will

consult by phone. A few are listed here:

 

 

 

HYPERLINK

" http://www.healthfullivingintl.com/bios/index.html " http://www.healthfullivi

ngintl.com/bios/index.html

 

 

 

I personally consulted with Dr. Graham once, and he would be my first choice

if I had a problem again:

 

 

 

HYPERLINK " http://www.foodnsport.com/ " www.foodnsport.com

 

 

 

Dr. Scott runs a fasting retreat in Ohio:

 

 

 

HYPERLINK " http://www.fastingbydesign.com/ " http://www.fastingbydesign.com

 

 

 

Here is another one I have bookmarked, but I don’t know much about it:

 

 

 

HYPERLINK " http://royl.ms11.net/index.html " http://royl.ms11.net//index.html

 

 

 

In any event, if you believe in the Natural Hygiene philosophy, I suggest

you stop consulting with M.D.’s and instead consult with Natural Hygiene

professionals. The M.D.’s are looking to suppress symptoms, not to help you

find a true cure.

 

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

_____

 

On Behalf Of Breezi Peterson

Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:17 PM

 

I need advise, I am afraid from Dr

opinions..loooong!

 

 

 

June 25, 2007 I woke up feeling like I was getting the flu….I was

very excited as I had not had a good detox since I fell off the 100%

raw wagon just over 4 years ago. I was beginning to think that I did

not have enough body energy to go thru a healing since having gone

back to the SAD way of eating and failing miserably at any attempt to

get back to raw for more than a week or two. By day 2 of this healing

crisis I awoke with severely swollen hands, wrists, feet and ankles.

The pain was an intense burning with tingling, severe aching and

numbness in my arms, hands and fingers. I pretty much figured I had

some form of arthritis (self diagnosis…I'm adopted). I immediately

went back to eating all raw during the day w/some steamed veggies at

night. I thought I would start to see some improvement but by day 21

I could no longer use my hands to even open a bottle of water and the

pain was now keeping me from sleeping.

 

I went to a Dr and she took one look at my swollen hands and feet and

told me that this was definitely " not " arthritis but secondary heart

failure and possibly kidney failure. She did an EKG and it showed my

heart was skipping beats. She drew some blood and sent me home w/a 24

hour heart monitor attached. This was on a Friday. That night the

pain was so bad I did not sleep at all. I went to Urgent Care on

Saturday morning according to her voice message and the Dr there told

me I had one of the worse cases of symmetrical arthritis he had seen

in a long time. I told him that the 1st Dr said I had secondary

heart failure but that I had experienced heart palpations off an on

since I was in my 20's and I'm 60 now. He said he didn't feel the

heart thing was an issue. He sent me home with pain pills and a 10

day bout of steroids and told me to find a new primary care Dr. (The

swelling and pain stopped w/in 24 hours. Now at day 10 the swelling

is coming back as is the pain and claw like hands.)

 

I was able to find a new Dr the next day and she heard my heart being

weird but an EKG w/her showed nothing. All the tests & X-rays came

back negative for arthritis and all blood work OK. They still want me

to see arthritis & cardio specialists. They are telling me that they

feel I have Rheumatoid arthritis and that it can not be cured but can

be kept under control thru drugs. That also I may need a pace-maker.

 

My questions are: should I see the arthritis specialists to find out

if I really do have arthritis? But scariest of all is the heart

thing…..should I follow thru and have the treadmill test done and

see just what is going on w/my heart or are the steroids I took

making my heart wacko? Or, should I find a good fasting clinic and

let my body heal naturally and if you all think that is the best

thing to do….does anyone know of a good fasting clinic here in the

states that they can recommend? Thank you for any advice,

information, input. Breezi

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Breezy

 

I am not a doctor . I think your symptoms are severe enough to see a

doctor.... I would recommend a naturopath , You could try John Ruhland, he is on

Beacon Hill. I here good things about him through friends, I think if you

called and talked to him you can get an idea if he could be of help or send you

in the right direction.. Getting a different opinion other than a regular MD.

Improving the diet is optimal with plenty of clean filtered water.

Did anything in your environment change ? remodel, new carpet ,new bed , paint

, new car ,job,? your physical environment can effect the health.

Swelling is inflamation in most cases, numbness could be a few things. I would

recommend some certain foods and herbs you could take for that but you would

need to make sure it is not a heart condition and especially if you are on

medications, that is a good reason to see an ND.

I sure wish you well.

 

Catherine

 

 

-

Breezi Peterson

Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:17 PM

I need advise, I am afraid from Dr opinions..loooong!

 

 

June 25, 2007 I woke up feeling like I was getting the flu..I was

very excited as I had not had a good detox since I fell off the 100%

raw wagon just over 4 years ago. I was beginning to think that I did

not have enough body energy to go thru a healing since having gone

back to the SAD way of eating and failing miserably at any attempt to

get back to raw for more than a week or two. By day 2 of this healing

crisis I awoke with severely swollen hands, wrists, feet and ankles.

The pain was an intense burning with tingling, severe aching and

numbness in my arms, hands and fingers. I pretty much figured I had

some form of arthritis (self diagnosis.I'm adopted). I immediately

went back to eating all raw during the day w/some steamed veggies at

night. I thought I would start to see some improvement but by day 21

I could no longer use my hands to even open a bottle of water and the

pain was now keeping me from sleeping.

 

I went to a Dr and she took one look at my swollen hands and feet and

told me that this was definitely " not " arthritis but secondary heart

failure and possibly kidney failure. She did an EKG and it showed my

heart was skipping beats. She drew some blood and sent me home w/a 24

hour heart monitor attached. This was on a Friday. That night the

pain was so bad I did not sleep at all. I went to Urgent Care on

Saturday morning according to her voice message and the Dr there told

me I had one of the worse cases of symmetrical arthritis he had seen

in a long time. I told him that the 1st Dr said I had secondary

heart failure but that I had experienced heart palpations off an on

since I was in my 20's and I'm 60 now. He said he didn't feel the

heart thing was an issue. He sent me home with pain pills and a 10

day bout of steroids and told me to find a new primary care Dr. (The

swelling and pain stopped w/in 24 hours. Now at day 10 the swelling

is coming back as is the pain and claw like hands.)

 

I was able to find a new Dr the next day and she heard my heart being

weird but an EKG w/her showed nothing. All the tests & X-rays came

back negative for arthritis and all blood work OK. They still want me

to see arthritis & cardio specialists. They are telling me that they

feel I have Rheumatoid arthritis and that it can not be cured but can

be kept under control thru drugs. That also I may need a pace-maker.

 

My questions are: should I see the arthritis specialists to find out

if I really do have arthritis? But scariest of all is the heart

thing...should I follow thru and have the treadmill test done and

see just what is going on w/my heart or are the steroids I took

making my heart wacko? Or, should I find a good fasting clinic and

let my body heal naturally and if you all think that is the best

thing to do..does anyone know of a good fasting clinic here in the

states that they can recommend? Thank you for any advice,

information, input. Breezi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Doctors are so useless most of the time. Ugh. But don't get me started.

 

You might want to try a place in Fife called Natural Health

Technologies. I went there and they did some tests that really

changed my life and health dramatically. I didn't care for the diet

advice I got there - they wanted me to start eating meat and take

supplements - but the tests they did helped me to see what my problems

were so I could take my own action. Last time I was there, they had

also hired an MD on the staff, so going there might be the best of

both worlds for someone with a potential heart issue.

 

 

Natural Health Technologies

www.mynh.com

1215 Regents Blvd, Tacoma

(253) 564-9223

[Guest guest]

Pretty scary s#$% Breezi. You're in Washington, aren't you?

 

Did you see Yashpal's message just prior to yours? Personally I don't go to

medical doctors, partly because I don't have insurance and other part because

they don't really know what's going on with you. And you will become their

guinea pig for drug experiments.

 

I would go see Yashpal and fast.

 

Shari

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Breezi,

Oh my gosh, how frightening for you.

 

I can't give any recommendations on doctors or

approach, but I went to the Tree of Life in Patagonia,

AZ. They do an excellent detox.

 

Yashpal Jayne, ND, in Port Townsend who contributes

frequently here, was med director at Tree of Life and

is holding his own retreat end of August, which you

probably saw here. It's closer to home, and soon....

 

love and light,

Nan

--- Breezi Peterson <bobandbreezi

wrote:

 

> June 25, 2007 I woke up feeling like I was getting

> the flu….I was

> very excited as I had not had a good detox since I

> fell off the 100%

> raw wagon just over 4 years ago. I was beginning to

> think that I did

> not have enough body energy to go thru a healing

> since having gone

> back to the SAD way of eating and failing miserably

> at any attempt to

> get back to raw for more than a week or two. By day

> 2 of this healing

> crisis I awoke with severely swollen hands, wrists,

> feet and ankles.

> The pain was an intense burning with tingling,

> severe aching and

> numbness in my arms, hands and fingers. I pretty

> much figured I had

> some form of arthritis (self diagnosis…I'm adopted).

> I immediately

> went back to eating all raw during the day w/some

> steamed veggies at

> night. I thought I would start to see some

> improvement but by day 21

> I could no longer use my hands to even open a bottle

> of water and the

> pain was now keeping me from sleeping.

>

> I went to a Dr and she took one look at my swollen

> hands and feet and

> told me that this was definitely " not " arthritis but

> secondary heart

> failure and possibly kidney failure. She did an EKG

> and it showed my

> heart was skipping beats. She drew some blood and

> sent me home w/a 24

> hour heart monitor attached. This was on a Friday.

> That night the

> pain was so bad I did not sleep at all. I went to

> Urgent Care on

> Saturday morning according to her voice message and

> the Dr there told

> me I had one of the worse cases of symmetrical

> arthritis he had seen

> in a long time. I told him that the 1st Dr said I

> had secondary

> heart failure but that I had experienced heart

> palpations off an on

> since I was in my 20's and I'm 60 now. He said he

> didn't feel the

> heart thing was an issue. He sent me home with pain

> pills and a 10

> day bout of steroids and told me to find a new

> primary care Dr. (The

> swelling and pain stopped w/in 24 hours. Now at day

> 10 the swelling

> is coming back as is the pain and claw like hands.)

>

> I was able to find a new Dr the next day and she

> heard my heart being

> weird but an EKG w/her showed nothing. All the tests

> & X-rays came

> back negative for arthritis and all blood work OK.

> They still want me

> to see arthritis & cardio specialists. They are

> telling me that they

> feel I have Rheumatoid arthritis and that it can not

> be cured but can

> be kept under control thru drugs. That also I may

> need a pace-maker.

>

>

> My questions are: should I see the arthritis

> specialists to find out

> if I really do have arthritis? But scariest of all

> is the heart

> thing…..should I follow thru and have the treadmill

> test done and

> see just what is going on w/my heart or are the

> steroids I took

> making my heart wacko? Or, should I find a good

> fasting clinic and

> let my body heal naturally and if you all think that

> is the best

> thing to do….does anyone know of a good fasting

> clinic here in the

> states that they can recommend? Thank you for any

> advice,

> information, input. Breezi

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Breezi - I just read thru your experience. Quite an ordeal and I can

feel your frustration and fear. It sounds like an allergic reaction of

some sort - whether from the past and a " healing crisis " or current. I

have equipment, EAV, Voll analysis, the Computron as well as darkfield

microscopy that hopefully I can find answers of what is going on. I

leave on a family summer trip this Wed, the 25th evening. I would see

you if you can come to Port Townsend before then. The visit will be 3-4

hrs and very comprehensive. There is a 20% discount for seeing me in PT,

which makes it $160/hr. Obviously there are no guarantees, however, I

can track down underlying causes. The heart I believe is more of a

stress side effect. Your liver, kidneys and skin are overloaded. I

suggest we work on the underlying causes and supplements (I am very far

from a natural hygienist) to reduce the reaction and deficiencies. and

prepare for a fast (possibly Lv/Gb cleanse) at the retreat I supervise

in Aug/Sept.

 

Immediately I suggest hoemopathic Apis, Quercetin/Hesperiden, Vitalzym -

high dose enzymes. We can have a phone consult and send them to you if

you are not able to come to me NOW.

 

The rest we can do in private email, sorry for taking up group time for

this private matter, however I wanted to give a little insight to the

community and step forward with my expertise.

 

In Health,

Yashpal

appts

 

 

Christopher Yashpal Jayne, ND

Naturopathic & Homeopathic Physician

1044 Water St #206

Port Townsend, Wash 98368

www.yashpal.com

Office: 360-385-3551

Fax/Msg: 877-860-5110

 

 

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On Behalf Of Breezi Peterson

Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:17 PM

 

I need advise, I am afraid from Dr

opinions..loooong!

 

 

 

June 25, 2007 I woke up feeling like I was getting the flu..I was

very excited as I had not had a good detox since I fell off the 100%

raw wagon just over 4 years ago. I was beginning to think that I did

not have enough body energy to go thru a healing since having gone

back to the SAD way of eating and failing miserably at any attempt to

get back to raw for more than a week or two. By day 2 of this healing

crisis I awoke with severely swollen hands, wrists, feet and ankles.

The pain was an intense burning with tingling, severe aching and

numbness in my arms, hands and fingers. I pretty much figured I had

some form of arthritis (self diagnosis.I'm adopted). I immediately

went back to eating all raw during the day w/some steamed veggies at

night. I thought I would start to see some improvement but by day 21

I could no longer use my hands to even open a bottle of water and the

pain was now keeping me from sleeping.

 

I went to a Dr and she took one look at my swollen hands and feet and

told me that this was definitely " not " arthritis but secondary heart

failure and possibly kidney failure. She did an EKG and it showed my

heart was skipping beats. She drew some blood and sent me home w/a 24

hour heart monitor attached. This was on a Friday. That night the

pain was so bad I did not sleep at all. I went to Urgent Care on

Saturday morning according to her voice message and the Dr there told

me I had one of the worse cases of symmetrical arthritis he had seen

in a long time. I told him that the 1st Dr said I had secondary

heart failure but that I had experienced heart palpations off an on

since I was in my 20's and I'm 60 now. He said he didn't feel the

heart thing was an issue. He sent me home with pain pills and a 10

day bout of steroids and told me to find a new primary care Dr. (The

swelling and pain stopped w/in 24 hours. Now at day 10 the swelling

is coming back as is the pain and claw like hands.)

 

I was able to find a new Dr the next day and she heard my heart being

weird but an EKG w/her showed nothing. All the tests & X-rays came

back negative for arthritis and all blood work OK. They still want me

to see arthritis & cardio specialists. They are telling me that they

feel I have Rheumatoid arthritis and that it can not be cured but can

be kept under control thru drugs. That also I may need a pace-maker.

 

My questions are: should I see the arthritis specialists to find out

if I really do have arthritis? But scariest of all is the heart

thing...should I follow thru and have the treadmill test done and

see just what is going on w/my heart or are the steroids I took

making my heart wacko? Or, should I find a good fasting clinic and

let my body heal naturally and if you all think that is the best

thing to do..does anyone know of a good fasting clinic here in the

states that they can recommend? Thank you for any advice,

information, input. Breezi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I am not a doctor. I am studying to be a Master Herbalist but this is NOT a

doctor. I do not prescribe diagnose or cure anything. FDA and AMA

disclaimer done.

 

How are your bowels working? If the bowels aren't working (2-3 healthy

bowel movements a day) then toxins are probably building up in your body.

What kind of water are you drinking? I know a lot of people argue over what

kind of water to drink etc. Through my research and experiences, I believe

distilled water is best. Adults should be drinking 1 gallon of water a day!

Distilled water will help flush whatever is building up out.

 

As for rheumatoid arthritis not being curable, I have to say that it total

garbage. A friend of mine has a 3 yr old who had rheumatoid arthritis. She

is cured- she got the bowels working properly, eliminated such things as

white flour, dairy, and sugar from the diet etc. She can now walk pain free

and does NOT take meds or steroids of any kind.

Marisa

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

First of all, doctors know basically only two ways to treat disease, drugs

and surgery. Drugs only treat symptoms, and surgery will only remove the

result, but unless the cause of the disease is dealt with, it will return.

There are other alternatives to drugs and surgery. When we are not feeling

well and get the word " You have .... " then we become very vulnerable to

follow the advice of any " expert " . If we truly care about our body and invest

time in learning how it works, we do not need to trust fully in any medical

doctor. I've seen as a patient different people in the natural health field,

and I've gotten the best results from a practitioner using kinesiology to test

for just what you body needs. No need for expensive tests, this way! It's

the cheapest and most effective way I've found to deal with health

challenges.

 

The heart condition you have is trickly. If there is some internal defect,

you may need a pacemaker to keep the condition under control. I would

see someone about that, but get different opinions from those in the

natural health field. Steroids can affect the heart. I heard of a wrestler who

died from the use of steriods affecting his heart (see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davey_Boy_Smith under " Death " ).

 

Ron Koenig

 

, " Breezi Peterson "

<bobandbreezi wrote:

>

> My questions are: should I see the arthritis specialists to find out

> if I really do have arthritis? But scariest of all is the heart

> thing…..should I follow thru and have the treadmill test done and

> see just what is going on w/my heart or are the steroids I took

> making my heart wacko? Or, should I find a good fasting clinic and

> let my body heal naturally and if you all think that is the best

> thing to do….does anyone know of a good fasting clinic here in the

> states that they can recommend? Thank you for any advice,

> information, input. Breezi

>

[Guest guest]

im sorry its taken me so long to respond to ya. but anyhow in school and dont

get to check this email to much. i wanted to suggest have you gone to bastyr?

you will get amazing care there and everyone there is very nice and well

educated and its the best in my opinion natural health univeristy in the

country. anyhow i hope your well and take care.

love n hugs Ruth

 

dianakantor <mail wrote:

Doctors are so useless most of the time. Ugh. But don't get me

started.

 

You might want to try a place in Fife called Natural Health

Technologies. I went there and they did some tests that really

changed my life and health dramatically. I didn't care for the diet

advice I got there - they wanted me to start eating meat and take

supplements - but the tests they did helped me to see what my problems

were so I could take my own action. Last time I was there, they had

also hired an MD on the staff, so going there might be the best of

both worlds for someone with a potential heart issue.

 

 

Natural Health Technologies

www.mynh.com

1215 Regents Blvd, Tacoma

(253) 564-9223

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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