Guest guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Cheryl, Here is something you should read about “raw” cacao before eating it. HYPERLINK " http://thinkandgoraw.com/IsRawChocolateHealthy.htm " http://thinkandgoraw.com /IsRawChocolateHealthy.htm I have similar concerns about “raw” goji berries. Supposedly they are high in antioxidants. Like cacao, it has to be dehydrated before being shipped, which degrades its nutrients, probably including the antioxidants. But even if we assume that the antioxidants are not affected by the drying process, at the price they are selling it for, the price per antioxidant is ridiculous. If it’s high antioxidants you want, why not just eat some extra raw fruits and vegetables? You will get far more bang for your buck. As for olive oil, I question the health benefits of something that has no or very little vitamins or other nutrients and derives 100% of its calories from fat. Empty calories = junk food. I know that there are many so-called raw food experts touting these foods these days. One of them recently came to town and I’m sure he talked about the virtues of these processed foods. Naturally, he sells them! The first question that should be asked of these people is: Are you making money selling these products? I think that we ought to look to unbiased sources for our nutritional advice. Sorry, I have no idea where you would get dimethyl sulfoxide in a glass container. I understand that it is an industrial solvent, and I don’t have much need for such chemicals. Stick to whole, fresh, ripe, raw, organic plants and you will do just fine. Fantastic, in fact! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Cheryl, Here is something you should read about “raw” cacao before eating it. HYPERLINK " http://thinkandgoraw.com/IsRawChocolateHealthy.htm " http://thinkandgoraw.com /IsRawChocolateHealthy.htm I have similar concerns about “raw” goji berries. Supposedly they are high in antioxidants. Like cacao, it has to be dehydrated before being shipped, which degrades its nutrients, probably including the antioxidants. But even if we assume that the antioxidants are not affected by the drying process, at the price they are selling it for, the price per antioxidant is ridiculous. If it’s high antioxidants you want, why not just eat some extra raw fruits and vegetables? You will get far more bang for your buck. As for olive oil, I question the health benefits of something that has no or very little vitamins or other nutrients and derives 100% of its calories from fat. Empty calories = junk food. I know that there are many so-called raw food experts touting these foods these days. One of them recently came to town and I’m sure he talked about the virtues of these processed foods. Naturally, he sells them! The first question that should be asked of these people is: Are you making money selling these products? I think that we ought to look to unbiased sources for our nutritional advice. Sorry, I have no idea where you would get dimethyl sulfoxide in a glass container. I understand that it is an industrial solvent, and I don’t have much need for such chemicals. Stick to whole, fresh, ripe, raw, organic plants and you will do just fine. Fantastic, in fact! Mark _____ On Behalf Of cctux Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:22 PM dmso, oil pulling, and stuff Hi Team! Happy Sunday. Does anyone know where I can buy DMSO in a glass container? I know the supplement store has it in plastic, but I only want it in glass. Also, Super Supplements is now selling raw cacao powder and nibs and goji berries! Prices are better than PCC, although I still think these products are ridiculously priced; a scam really. Anyway, I remember reading about oil pulling a couple of years ago and they said best oil to use was olive oil. So being a good sport, I decided to try it out for a month. I didn't notice any difference in how I felt. Except one morning I was swishing my oil and my sister walked by and just shook her head. The look on her face was so funny I nearly choked to death on the oil. Also, I've been drinking lots of herbal tea lately. I make a big soup pot of reishi mushroom and hu shu wu for strengthening bone marrow and then I alternate with a pot of nettle, horsetail, and oatstraw for building bones. I don't sweeten it, just put it in the fridge and drink it cold. Yum Yum. Cheryl Peace on earth. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1307 - Release 3/2/2008 3:59 PM Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1307 - Release 3/2/2008 3:59 PM Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release 3/3/2008 10:01 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 That's a great compilation of articles about chocolate, Mark. Thanks for posting it. Warm wishes, Nora ---- Here is something you should read about " raw " cacao before eating it. HYPERLINK " http://thinkandgoraw.com/IsRawChocolateHealthy.htm " http://thinkandgoraw.com /IsRawChocolateHealthy.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Nora, Sure, glad to pass it on. I should have mentioned that I did recently eat some truly raw cacao in Costa Rica during the recovery phase of my recent fast. We were given some cacao pods which we cut open, and inside there were a bunch of seeds, maybe 20 or more, each an inch or two wide. As I understand it, these seeds are processed and cooked to make chocolate, even the so-called “raw” cacao. (I have heard that David Wolfe and other cacao sellers have now been forced to admit that no cacao produced from these seeds is really raw, but I have not actually seen their admissions in writing anywhere.) Anyway, the seeds are surrounded by a small amount of sweet goo. If you want a raw food experience you don’t eat the seed, you put it in your mouth and basically suck the goo off of it. It’s tasty, but there doesn’t seem to be a lot of edible food per cacao pod. In the time it took me to eat a tiny bit of raw cacao I could have probably eaten six mangos! So I don’t know how commercially viable it would be to sell the cacao pods, or to somehow extract the goo, put it in jars and sell it. It was a fun experience, though. Mark _____ On Behalf Of Nora Lenz Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:43 AM Re: dmso, oil pulling, and stuff That's a great compilation of articles about chocolate, Mark. Thanks for posting it. Warm wishes, Nora Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1310 - Release 3/4/2008 8:35 AM Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1310 - Release 3/4/2008 8:35 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Mark, Thank you so much for your reply. Do you think that dehydrating food makes it a " processed " food? I agree that it is wise to be skeptical of any sales pitch! But frankly, anyone offering a book or consultation services is " selling " . I have always had a problem with the dogma in nutrition (and fitness) and have come to think of it all as just another theory/opinion. I trust Mother Nature and do agree that raw plant based eating is the very best we can do for our bodies! Thank you again for replying, honest dialogue is always appreciated. Peace on earth. Cheryl - mkhovila<hovila < > Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:00 PM RE: dmso, oil pulling, and stuff Cheryl, Here is something you should read about " raw " cacao before eating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Hi Cheryl, Sure, though it’s all a matter of degree. Dehydrating involves less processing than cooking does, but some nutrient damage still occurs, even at low temperatures. Dehydrated foods also are more difficult to digest. And it is easier to overeat dehydrated foods them because of the smaller volume. The water is in the food for a reason! Also, packaged dehydrated foods that are sold in health foods stores as raw crackers, etc., almost invariably have salt and/or spices added, and maybe even oils. Essentially, they are trying to mimic the taste of the cooked foods we are all familiar with. I think that one tool we can use to recognize dogma and other BS is our common sense. Common sense, for instance, tells me that it is better to eat a head or two of lettuce a day than to eat 3 tablespoons of green powder prepared by a special proprietary low temperature process that you can only get from one particular raw food guru. It is one thing if a teacher sells you his knowledge, but if he then uses that time to sell you more products, then essentially you are listening to an infomercial. Mark _____ On Behalf Of CHERYL D JONES Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:19 AM Re: dmso, oil pulling, and stuff Mark, Thank you so much for your reply. Do you think that dehydrating food makes it a " processed " food? I agree that it is wise to be skeptical of any sales pitch! But frankly, anyone offering a book or consultation services is " selling " . I have always had a problem with the dogma in nutrition (and fitness) and have come to think of it all as just another theory/opinion. I trust Mother Nature and do agree that raw plant based eating is the very best we can do for our bodies! Thank you again for replying, honest dialogue is always appreciated. Peace on earth. Cheryl - mkhovila<HYPERLINK " hovila%40comcast.net " hovila (AT) comcast (DOT) -net> HYPERLINK " %40 " @-.-com<mail to:HYPERLINK " %40 " @-.-com> Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:00 PM RE: dmso, oil pulling, and stuff Cheryl, Here is something you should read about " raw " cacao before eating it. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.5/1314 - Release 3/5/2008 6:38 PM Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.5/1314 - Release 3/5/2008 6:38 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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