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namaste bros and sisters....does anyone have plans for, planted already, an

" edible forest garden " ? I have been reading this website

www.edibleforestgardens.com for the last hour and it is really an exciting

concept......IMHO.......silver eagle / stanley

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Elchanan

Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:36 PM

Permatulture at Home (WAS: Gardening - Are my

nonorganic seedlings " organic enough " ?)

 

 

Nick,

 

I suggest that you begin learning about permaculture. You can go SO far

beyond any list that looks like what is below, so far beyond biodynamic and

such, you can literally recreate your ecosystem. One great resource is

http://www.edibleforestgardens.com/. Don't let the name misdirect you, it's

about creating a food forest on a home-sized scale.

 

Best,

Elchanan

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Nick Hein

Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:29 PM

Re: XPOST : Gardening - Are my nonorganic seedlings

" organic enough " ?

 

Shari,

I thought this was a really good question, and it inspired me to ask about

how to be most ideal in other things. Starting with gardening, assuming that

things like air quality can't be controlled - except maybe by choosing

location, what would be the most ideal way to grow a pure garden?

 

Organic, heirloom seeds.

Rainwater

Free range compost

Others? Suggestions?

 

Nick Hein

Morgantown, WV (WA expatriate)

 

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Hi Silver Eagle,

 

We've got a half acre permaculture/edible garden going here at Armstrong

Park (outside Redmond, Wa) that we've just started eating out of this week

after 2 years of observation, planning & development. So far we've got about

150 fruit trees and berry bushes in the ground as well as probably about 100

different veggies/nuts/herbs/edible flowers. The beauty of permaculture is

that it's a principle that works on any scale and is the gentlest, most

sustainable way to grow on this planet that has for far too long been so

abused. Permaculture is the external/global equivalent of what our raw

lifestyle is on the internal/local level (ie. the most natural, sustaining,

gentlest, etc - see Eat More Raw: A Guide to Health and Sustainability by

Steve Charter) If you're interested, we periodically bring in leading

permaculture experts and hold workshops here (next one is in June), or next

time in the Seattle area feel free to set up an appointment for a visit, or

Gaia's Garden; A Guide To Home-Scale Permaculture (by Toby Hemenway) is an

excellent starting book that is a little more accessible than the Edible

Forest Gardens set. With the onset of peak oil et al, reclaiming our place

in creating our own food is an idea whose time has returned!

 

Tom Armstrong

 

 

 

 

 

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Of Stanley Sabre

Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:56 PM

 

edible forest gardening

 

 

 

namaste bros and sisters....does anyone have plans for, planted already, an

" edible forest garden " ? I have been reading this website

www.edibleforestgardens.com for the last hour and it is really an exciting

concept......IMHO.......silver eagle / stanley

-

Elchanan

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:36 PM

Permatulture at Home (WAS: Gardening - Are my

nonorganic seedlings " organic enough " ?)

 

Nick,

 

I suggest that you begin learning about permaculture. You can go SO far

beyond any list that looks like what is below, so far beyond biodynamic and

such, you can literally recreate your ecosystem. One great resource is

http://www.ediblefo <http://www.edibleforestgardens.com/> restgardens.com/.

Don't let the name misdirect you, it's

about creating a food forest on a home-sized scale.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

Nick Hein

Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:29 PM

@ <%40>

Re: XPOST : Gardening - Are my nonorganic seedlings

" organic enough " ?

 

Shari,

I thought this was a really good question, and it inspired me to ask about

how to be most ideal in other things. Starting with gardening, assuming that

things like air quality can't be controlled - except maybe by choosing

location, what would be the most ideal way to grow a pure garden?

 

Organic, heirloom seeds.

Rainwater

Free range compost

Others? Suggestions?

 

Nick Hein

Morgantown, WV (WA expatriate)

 

 

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I was just browsing the emagazine on the Rawganique site yesterday and

saw this article about a man who planted all kinds of fruiting trees

and veggies in Australia where it wasn't supposed to be possible for

them to grow on account of the type of land and weather, even getting

in trouble with their laws for doing so, yet being very successful in

spite of these things including his total neglect of the plants:

 

http://www.rawganique.com/Ezine/no-till-gardening.htm

 

 

Blanc

 

 

 

 

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Nice one Blanc, thanks!

Elchanan

 

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On Behalf Of BlancW

Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:14 PM

 

Re: edible forest gardening

 

 

I was just browsing the emagazine on the Rawganique site yesterday and

saw this article about a man who planted all kinds of fruiting trees

and veggies in Australia where it wasn't supposed to be possible for

them to grow on account of the type of land and weather, even getting

in trouble with their laws for doing so, yet being very successful in

spite of these things including his total neglect of the plants:

 

http://www.rawganiq <http://www.rawganique.com/Ezine/no-till-gardening.htm>

ue.com/Ezine/no-till-gardening.htm

 

Blanc

 

 

 

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