nuts and seeds

[Guest guest]

Alix, you are probably not eating enough juicy fruit. And when you are first

transitioning to raw foods, I found I didn't have that " full " feeling I was used

to and nuts helped to make me feel sated.

 

Are you soaking your nuts before eating them? Some people have trouble

digesting nuts that have not had the enzyme inhibitors removed by soaking.

 

Shari

 

 

[Guest guest]

I don't eat o lot of fruit. I didn't soak my nuts so i will try (how long

should i soak them).

And it s exactly that " " full " feeling I was used to and nuts helped to make

me feel sated " .

Do you know if it s really unhealthy to eat a lot of them ?

Thanks for your advice.

Alixxxx

 

 

> " SV " <shavig

>rawfood

><rawfood >

>Re: [Raw Food] nuts and seeds

>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:49:43 -0800

>

>Alix, you are probably not eating enough juicy fruit. And when you are

>first transitioning to raw foods, I found I didn't have that " full " feeling

>I was used to and nuts helped to make me feel sated.

>

>Are you soaking your nuts before eating them? Some people have trouble

>digesting nuts that have not had the enzyme inhibitors removed by soaking.

>

>Shari

>

>

[Guest guest]

Alix,

 

I did the same thing. I gained 10 pounds in a month. I learned to keep it

simple. Limit your nuts and seeds and fatty fruits like avo for now and increase

your sesame seeds and flax seeds (hardly any cals) and eat lots of fresh fruit

and if your body goes crazy and you need something fatty.. try a chocolate

pudding with 1 avo in it instead of 3 like most recipes. It will make 2 cups of

pudding and I find it helps me when I crave everything else.

 

Good luck.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Anything can make you feel sick if you consume too much. Even fresh fruit.. if I

had 5 banana's 4 oranges and 6 pears I would probably feel sick also. Although

some people use LOTS in smoothies.

It's about balance and knowing what works for you.

 

Alix Bernet <alixbr wrote: I don't

eat o lot of fruit. I didn't soak my nuts so i will try (how long

should i soak them).

And it s exactly that " " full " feeling I was used to and nuts helped to make

me feel sated " .

Do you know if it s really unhealthy to eat a lot of them ?

Thanks for your advice.

Alixxxx

 

> " SV " <shavig

>rawfood

><rawfood >

>Re: [Raw Food] nuts and seeds

>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:49:43 -0800

>

>Alix, you are probably not eating enough juicy fruit. And when you are

>first transitioning to raw foods, I found I didn't have that " full " feeling

>I was used to and nuts helped to make me feel sated.

>

>Are you soaking your nuts before eating them? Some people have trouble

>digesting nuts that have not had the enzyme inhibitors removed by soaking.

>

>Shari

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi blondy,

 

Thanks for your advice. Just do you know more or less how much nuts and

seeds we can eat per day for a normal active woman. I can really find out.

I have to cope with some emotions to stop excess, not easy to be a human.

lol

xxx

 

 

>Blondy <trinity082482

>rawfood

>rawfood

>Re: [Raw Food] nuts and seeds

>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:13:24 -0500 (EST)

>

>Anything can make you feel sick if you consume too much. Even fresh fruit..

>if I had 5 banana's 4 oranges and 6 pears I would probably feel sick also.

>Although some people use LOTS in smoothies.

>It's about balance and knowing what works for you.

>

>Alix Bernet <alixbr wrote: I

>don't eat o lot of fruit. I didn't soak my nuts so i will try (how long

> should i soak them).

> And it s exactly that " " full " feeling I was used to and nuts helped to

>make

> me feel sated " .

> Do you know if it s really unhealthy to eat a lot of them ?

> Thanks for your advice.

> Alixxxx

>

> > " SV " <shavig

> >rawfood

> ><rawfood >

> >Re: [Raw Food] nuts and seeds

> >Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:49:43 -0800

> >

> >Alix, you are probably not eating enough juicy fruit. And when you are

> >first transitioning to raw foods, I found I didn't have that " full "

>feeling

> >I was used to and nuts helped to make me feel sated.

> >

> >Are you soaking your nuts before eating them? Some people have trouble

> >digesting nuts that have not had the enzyme inhibitors removed by

>soaking.

> >

> >Shari

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I generally soak my nuts overnight. I do not soak walnuts, macadamia nuts or

pinenuts, however. I personally do not care for those nuts after soaking.

 

Eating too many nuts is not optimal. Think about the original diet. We didn't

have nut crackers and we certainly could not go buy nuts in bulk! How many nuts

do you think you would eat if you had to sit and crack them and dig them out of

the shell? Not many, I'm thinking.

 

I try to limit my nut intake to about an ounce a week. BUT when I first started

raw it was much like you trying to catch that elusive " full " feeling. Have you

read anything at www.rawschool.com ? She has some very good information there

in regards to overeating, especially when new. Here's a little excerpt:

 

" Eventually, successful raw foodists invariably settle into a very simple way of

eating. It is not hunger but our emotional addictions to food and our misplaced

expectation that food should serve as entertainment or comfort which motivate us

to combine foods in complex recipes. True hunger demands only nutrient-rich,

uncooked, biologically-appropriate food, and preferably only one food at a time,

since each food requires a different chemical environment for digestion. "

 

She's got some dandy information for newbies.

 

Shari

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

My experience has been, up the fruit and greens content, always, and eat

nuts in moderation.

 

I've been raw, without exception, (not a bite of cooked food) since

early December. And I am losing weight. When I was 100% raw for over 7

months (again, not one bite of cooked food), I lost weight and I was

healthy and not " deficient " in anything.

 

Fruits and greens and nuts contain all the amino acids our body needs,

and our commonly accepted culture thought of " must get more protein " is

in my opinion, a myth.

 

Ariannah in Nova Scotia

 

Alix Bernet wrote:

> Hi everybody,

>

> I m 100% raw for almost 15 days, and i don't know why but i need to eat a

> lot of nuts, tahini and seeds (sunflower, pumpkins).

> I didn't digest them properly and i feel heavy and a little bit nauseous and

> of course i m quite sure i m taking weight.

> But i don't know why i need them so much. I can t finish a day without

> eating a lot.

> It's really difficult to resist and plus i don't really know how much i have

> to eat per day to have my protein. But it's too fat and my stomach is in

> rebellion.

> Perhaps 100% raw it's too hard to begin and i should begin 75% raw. Perhaps

> it's an emotional reaction to privation. Perhaps it s my need of protein.

> I don't have a clue honestly so if you do please give me some advices.

> Thanks

> Alix.

> x

>

> _______________

> Découvrez le Blog heroic Fantaisy d'Eragon!

> http://eragon-heroic-fantasy.spaces.live.com/

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Shavi,

 

Thanks.

I m already register in rawschool but i didnt have the time to read i will

now.

I do agree with the idea of emotionnal eating for overeating but i m not so

sure for mono diet.

Can we really have all our nutrient in mono meal. And how mono meal per day

are we suppose to do.

I work a lot and it s a busy work i can stop every two hours to eat some

thing.

Anyway i will go right now to read it.

Thanks a lot for your time.

Alix.

xx

 

 

> " SV " <shavig

>rawfood

><rawfood >

>Re: [Raw Food] nuts and seeds

>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 06:26:26 -0800

>

>I generally soak my nuts overnight. I do not soak walnuts, macadamia nuts

>or pinenuts, however. I personally do not care for those nuts after

>soaking.

>

>Eating too many nuts is not optimal. Think about the original diet. We

>didn't have nut crackers and we certainly could not go buy nuts in bulk!

>How many nuts do you think you would eat if you had to sit and crack them

>and dig them out of the shell? Not many, I'm thinking.

>

>I try to limit my nut intake to about an ounce a week. BUT when I first

>started raw it was much like you trying to catch that elusive " full "

>feeling. Have you read anything at www.rawschool.com ? She has some very

>good information there in regards to overeating, especially when new.

>Here's a little excerpt:

>

> " Eventually, successful raw foodists invariably settle into a very simple

>way of eating. It is not hunger but our emotional addictions to food and

>our misplaced expectation that food should serve as entertainment or

>comfort which motivate us to combine foods in complex recipes. True hunger

>demands only nutrient-rich, uncooked, biologically-appropriate food, and

>preferably only one food at a time, since each food requires a different

>chemical environment for digestion. "

>

>She's got some dandy information for newbies.

>

>Shari

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing your experience

xx

 

 

>Ariannah Armstrong <adagio

>rawfood

>rawfood

>Re: [Raw Food] nuts and seeds

>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:29:07 -0400

>

>My experience has been, up the fruit and greens content, always, and eat

>nuts in moderation.

>

>I've been raw, without exception, (not a bite of cooked food) since

>early December. And I am losing weight. When I was 100% raw for over 7

>months (again, not one bite of cooked food), I lost weight and I was

>healthy and not " deficient " in anything.

>

>Fruits and greens and nuts contain all the amino acids our body needs,

>and our commonly accepted culture thought of " must get more protein " is

>in my opinion, a myth.

>

>Ariannah in Nova Scotia

>

>Alix Bernet wrote:

> > Hi everybody,

> >

> > I m 100% raw for almost 15 days, and i don't know why but i need to eat

>a

> > lot of nuts, tahini and seeds (sunflower, pumpkins).

> > I didn't digest them properly and i feel heavy and a little bit nauseous

>and

> > of course i m quite sure i m taking weight.

> > But i don't know why i need them so much. I can t finish a day without

> > eating a lot.

> > It's really difficult to resist and plus i don't really know how much i

>have

> > to eat per day to have my protein. But it's too fat and my stomach is in

> > rebellion.

> > Perhaps 100% raw it's too hard to begin and i should begin 75% raw.

>Perhaps

> > it's an emotional reaction to privation. Perhaps it s my need of

>protein.

> > I don't have a clue honestly so if you do please give me some advices.

> > Thanks

> > Alix.

> > x

> >

> > _______________

> > Découvrez le Blog heroic Fantaisy d'Eragon!

> > http://eragon-heroic-fantasy.spaces.live.com/

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I second Shari's recommendation for http://www.rawschool.com

 

There is a wealth of information in her " Philosophy " link.

 

Her article " Should Raw Fooders Worry about Nutrient Deficiency? " is eye

opening and amazing.

 

http://rawschool.com/nutrientdeficiency.htm

 

Some links are on the bottom of the pages and other links are at the

top... but her site will really educate about optimal raw foods and what

they do.

 

Ariannah in Nova Scotia

 

SV wrote:

 

> I try to limit my nut intake to about an ounce a week. BUT when I

> first started raw it was much like you trying to catch that elusive

> " full " feeling. Have you read anything at www.rawschool.com ? She

> has some very good information there in regards to overeating,

> especially when new. Here's a little excerpt:

>

> " Eventually, successful raw foodists invariably settle into a very

> simple way of eating. It is not hunger but our emotional addictions

> to food and our misplaced expectation that food should serve as

> entertainment or comfort which motivate us to combine foods in

> complex recipes. True hunger demands only nutrient-rich, uncooked,

> biologically-appropriate food, and preferably only one food at a

> time, since each food requires a different chemical environment for

> digestion. "

>

> She's got some dandy information for newbies.

--

Personal Blog: http://ec.lecti.ca

[Guest guest]

Hi Alix!

 

Thanks for sharing your experience. I have been high raw for over a year

now and 100% raw for about 9 months now (going on and off cooked the last 9

years!) I totally went through a similar thing. Being off cooked food is

important to me. I am not good at controlled cooked eating (nor am I good

at controlled drinking, hence why I don't touch liquor or drugs either.)

So, I just don't eat cooked, no matter what. I totally had times of

over-eating nuts and seeds (and, well, anything raw), especially in the

first half of this last year. I over-ate to the point of getting sick at

least 6 times. I " felt " like I had the stomach flu and even threw-up on one

occasion. But, each episode of ill feeling lasted only a day. I persevere

with abstinence from cooked food because the results of cooked eating for me

are even more grim: colds and flus that can last for as long as weeks, low

energy (lower energy and on a deeper level than I feel from simply eating

too many nuts), a different totally different " cooked " approach to reality

and mind-set. My perseverance has totally paid off. I have not gotten sick

from over eating in months. I no longer binge eat. I am experiencing

terrific levels of energy, rather consistently; to the point that it gets

annoying to ALWAYS feel like I could jump-up and run a few laps (I totally

need to get more exercise... maybe I will start running!

 

Here are some things that have helped me to not binge: 1. Simply allowing

myself binge on raw and not eating cooked food. Eventually I got sick of

getting sick and stopped over-eating (any amount of cooked food leads to a

cooked binge for me, 9 years experience has shown me this, so that is not an

option. And, logically, the aspect of binging that is due to cooked cravings

fade away as cooked cravings fade. 2. Superfoods (foods super high in

nutrients) seem to have been very important to my overcoming the binging

(and overall help me to stay raw.) I feel my body responds to super

nutrition such as spirulina and AFA algaes by feeling satiated on a deeper,

cellular, level (plus algae is way, super, high in protein, a note to you

personally, Alix.) This is how it actually FEELS to me. Now, I don't think

foods alone can heal one from emotional eating, but as the mental annoyance

of irregular eating is being dealt with through spirituality, success info,

meditation, etc; the super nutrition is working on the physical level. I

have found cravings lessen when my body is being super nourished. AFA is

great brain food to support the healing of the addictive brain. Other

helpful foods, for me have been, cacao, maca, herbal and green tea (not

recommended, but I was such a coffee addict in the past that I feel it is an

appropriate transition tool for me.) Other helpful stuff: wheat grass

juice, green based juice blends, blending and drinking super large green

smoothies (with avo, coconut oil or flax as the fat source not nuts or other

seeds.) to give that full feeling yet with easier digestion. 3. Supplements

have helped me (I do make an exception on raw if I feel a supplement will

help without triggering a cooked binge.) For example: digestive enzymes,

probiotics, Vital PSP+ (life changing), medicinal mushroom extracts, algae

oil (one brand is Omega Zen), and MSM crystals (eat a tablespoon and you

won't want to eat anything for a while.) 4. Doing an enema a couple to

several times a week. I feel like I have more intense cravings when food is

backed-up in my system (you know, like produces like... having lots in the

gut makes me feel like wanting to put lots more in the gut!) Yes, it would

be better to eat properly to begin with, yet that is the very thing I am

learning to do, therefore an occasional enema is a tool I use during this

learning process. I am now only utilizing an enema once every one-two weeks

and am pleased with where I am at. 5. God and my personal connection to

God (Goddess, the Nothing, Great Spirit, True Self, Higher Power, the One,

what have YOU) has been beyond helpful. I have NOT been able to stay

consistently on the raw path when I give Shawna complete control. Shawna

has been trying to stay 100% raw since she first heard of the concept 9

years ago. I have, for the last year, been trying my best to make decisions

for Shawna that come from " God " . This thing (my body and personality) is

simply a tool, not to be mistaken for the ultimate reality. I am really, in

truth, something much different, something all pervasive, something more

that the thing, I, in the past, labeled as Shawna. I try to shape this " God

created " tool to perform God's will. The results have been fantastic! For

some unbeknownst (to me) reason, when I align my being with a loving God

Consciousness everything is better, more FUN! For one thing God wants me to

create Shawna into a live-foodist (which is way-cool cuz that is what I

wanted anyways!) Another example of living from God Consciousness is that

God wants me to be loving and giving; I have been trying my best to do this

and I have been making tons of beautiful, fun, and supportive friends,

something I didn't have in such abundance before. If God tells me to eat

cooked food, then so be it... so far this has not happened. 6. I just

don't eat cooked food, no matter what. Whilst consistently and consciously

supporting my growth, process, evolution, and learning on all levels.

Having a consistent spiritual practice (ANYTHING), reading inspiring works

by those that have gone before me (and actually incorporating advice when it

is appropriate, is, I have found, very important,) actively being active in

the raw-food community in cyberspace and " real " life (I have found many

people are into the LIVE/raw lifestyle without actually making even a

little, to any, effort to abstain from cooked food and can be great allies

on the path!)

 

This is not easy, but it is simple. Binging happens and so does change,

especially if the change is welcomed and supported. I prefer my new

live-food lifestyle over my past way of life for many, many reasons. The

last 9 years and especially this last year of being consistent in the raw

(or what I prefer to call CONSCIOUSNESS) lifestyle have been totally worth

it and I would not change a thing. All of it is the way " God " wanted it to

be. Alix, I am here for you. I do not wish to be healthy alone and I

appreciate everyone that is on this path... each doing it their own way and

ALL other than giving-up!

 

Eat some cooked food... get your cooked buzz-on... I adore the cooked high

and abhor the come-down. Ain't no shame in changing your brain chemistry...

you will be living with the consequences, tho. And you will still have a

raw nuts and seeds binge eating habit to resolve when (and if) you return to

all raw.

 

Eat, don't eat, live, sleep, READ, continue to ask advice, and educate

yourself. Persevere with that which feels right for you in your heart.

Know you have support and we are out here doin the deal, for real, too!

 

LOVE-it! Live-it! ALL of it! ALIVE! Thanks again for writing and thanks

for reading!

 

Blessings, Peace, Joy, ABUNDANCE, and yours in health and Consciousness!

Shawna Stursa

 

On 1/27/07, Alix Bernet <alixbr wrote:

>

> Hi everybody,

>

> I m 100% raw for almost 15 days, and i don't know why but i need to eat a

> lot of nuts, tahini and seeds (sunflower, pumpkins).

> I didn't digest them properly and i feel heavy and a little bit nauseous

> and

> of course i m quite sure i m taking weight.

> But i don't know why i need them so much. I can t finish a day without

> eating a lot.

> It's really difficult to resist and plus i don't really know how much i

> have

> to eat per day to have my protein. But it's too fat and my stomach is in

> rebellion.

> Perhaps 100% raw it's too hard to begin and i should begin 75% raw.

> Perhaps

> it's an emotional reaction to privation. Perhaps it s my need of protein.

> I don't have a clue honestly so if you do please give me some advices.

> Thanks

> Alix.

> x

>

> ________

> Découvrez le Blog heroic Fantaisy d'Eragon!

> http://eragon-heroic-fantasy.spaces.live.com/

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Alix,

Two simple things:

 

1. You are not consuming enough nonfat calories (fruits) throughout the day,

so that you are really hungry by evening. You turn to high calorie-density

foods, but unfortunately those foods are also high in hard fiber and low in

water, oxygen, and primary fuel (simple sugars).

 

2. Your new diet is peeling away the armor you have worn for years, decades

even, so that feelings of all sorts are coming to the surface. This is a

good thing, but it may not be pleasant. And one natural response is to

return to the addictive pattern of numbing out these feelings. Heavy foods

that clog up the system, anything low in water content and high in insoluble

fiber, accomplish this numbing out beautifully ... but at a price, of

course.

 

Hope this provides a bit of perspective. If you are interested, we have a

new program coming next month on emotions and food (and related matters).

This begins with one of our free teleconferences, entitled " Do I have two

minds, or what? !! " , Saturday, February 17th. Watch for an announcement

soon.

 

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Alix Bernet

Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:29 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] nuts and seeds

 

 

Hi everybody,

 

I m 100% raw for almost 15 days, and i don't know why but i need to eat a

lot of nuts, tahini and seeds (sunflower, pumpkins).

I didn't digest them properly and i feel heavy and a little bit nauseous and

 

of course i m quite sure i m taking weight.

But i don't know why i need them so much. I can t finish a day without

eating a lot.

It's really difficult to resist and plus i don't really know how much i have

 

to eat per day to have my protein. But it's too fat and my stomach is in

rebellion.

Perhaps 100% raw it's too hard to begin and i should begin 75% raw. Perhaps

it's an emotional reaction to privation. Perhaps it s my need of protein.

I don't have a clue honestly so if you do please give me some advices.

Thanks

Alix.

x

<http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=5520395/grpspId=1705015482/msgId

=27334/stime=1169904581/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks Ariannah.

xx

Alix

 

 

>Ariannah Armstrong <adagio

>rawfood

>rawfood

>Re: [Raw Food] nuts and seeds

>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:01:23 -0400

>

>I second Shari's recommendation for http://www.rawschool.com

>

>There is a wealth of information in her " Philosophy " link.

>

>Her article " Should Raw Fooders Worry about Nutrient Deficiency? " is eye

>opening and amazing.

>

>http://rawschool.com/nutrientdeficiency.htm

>

>Some links are on the bottom of the pages and other links are at the

>top... but her site will really educate about optimal raw foods and what

>they do.

>

>Ariannah in Nova Scotia

>

>SV wrote:

>

> > I try to limit my nut intake to about an ounce a week. BUT when I

> > first started raw it was much like you trying to catch that elusive

> > " full " feeling. Have you read anything at www.rawschool.com ? She

> > has some very good information there in regards to overeating,

> > especially when new. Here's a little excerpt:

> >

> > " Eventually, successful raw foodists invariably settle into a very

> > simple way of eating. It is not hunger but our emotional addictions

> > to food and our misplaced expectation that food should serve as

> > entertainment or comfort which motivate us to combine foods in

> > complex recipes. True hunger demands only nutrient-rich, uncooked,

> > biologically-appropriate food, and preferably only one food at a

> > time, since each food requires a different chemical environment for

> > digestion. "

> >

> > She's got some dandy information for newbies.

>--

>Personal Blog: http://ec.lecti.ca

 

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Elchanan,

 

I agree with you.

About the teleconferences i m in london. I work hard during the day and they

are around 1am so really too late.

But i will go and read a lot of rawschool.com.

xx

 

 

> " Elchanan " <Elchanan

>rawfood

><rawfood >

>RE: [Raw Food] nuts and seeds

>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 12:04:02 -0700

>

>Alix,

>Two simple things:

>

>1. You are not consuming enough nonfat calories (fruits) throughout the

>day,

>so that you are really hungry by evening. You turn to high calorie-density

>foods, but unfortunately those foods are also high in hard fiber and low in

>water, oxygen, and primary fuel (simple sugars).

>

>2. Your new diet is peeling away the armor you have worn for years, decades

>even, so that feelings of all sorts are coming to the surface. This is a

>good thing, but it may not be pleasant. And one natural response is to

>return to the addictive pattern of numbing out these feelings. Heavy foods

>that clog up the system, anything low in water content and high in

>insoluble

>fiber, accomplish this numbing out beautifully ... but at a price, of

>course.

>

>Hope this provides a bit of perspective. If you are interested, we have a

>new program coming next month on emotions and food (and related matters).

>This begins with one of our free teleconferences, entitled " Do I have two

>minds, or what? !! " , Saturday, February 17th. Watch for an announcement

>soon.

>

>Elchanan

> _____

>

>rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

>Alix Bernet

>Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:29 AM

>rawfood

>[Raw Food] nuts and seeds

>

>

>Hi everybody,

>

>I m 100% raw for almost 15 days, and i don't know why but i need to eat a

>lot of nuts, tahini and seeds (sunflower, pumpkins).

>I didn't digest them properly and i feel heavy and a little bit nauseous

>and

>

>of course i m quite sure i m taking weight.

>But i don't know why i need them so much. I can t finish a day without

>eating a lot.

>It's really difficult to resist and plus i don't really know how much i

>have

>

>to eat per day to have my protein. But it's too fat and my stomach is in

>rebellion.

>Perhaps 100% raw it's too hard to begin and i should begin 75% raw. Perhaps

>it's an emotional reaction to privation. Perhaps it s my need of protein.

>I don't have a clue honestly so if you do please give me some advices.

>Thanks

>Alix.

>x

><http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=5520395/grpspId=1705015482/msgId

>=27334/stime=1169904581/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In the example you provide, you would feel sick from the food combination,

not from the volume. A common mistake in perception for those learning and

starting out.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Blondy

Saturday, January 27, 2007 7:13 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] nuts and seeds

 

 

Anything can make you feel sick if you consume too much. Even fresh fruit..

if I had 5 banana's 4 oranges and 6 pears I would probably feel sick also.

Although some people use LOTS in smoothies. It's about balance and knowing

what works for you.

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[Guest guest]

Alix,

Your biological NEED for nuts and seeds is ZERO. I suggest that you focus

your attention and energy upon learning how to eat and live healthfully, not

upon nut and seed measurements.

 

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Alix Bernet

Saturday, January 27, 2007 7:22 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] nuts and seeds

 

 

Hi blondy,

 

Thanks for your advice. Just do you know more or less how much nuts and

seeds we can eat per day for a normal active woman. I can really find out.

I have to cope with some emotions to stop excess, not easy to be a human.

lol

xxx

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[Guest guest]

Uh, to Elchanan... maybe more fruits would be good for me and my

constipation issue. I am a super open minded person. See, I just came from

living at the Tree of Life on and off for the past year. The level of

dedication to my spiritual path, that I have gained from living in the Tree

Community, is a blessing beyond words! But, I didn't jive well with the

Tree food. It's all greens, non-sweet fruit, and various nut and seed

concoctions. Extremely little sweet fruit! When the massive prickly pear

cactus outside the cafe came into season, it was like the heavens opened up

and I partook in an angel's banquet! Strangely, I think I was one of few to

totally love on a bunch of the gorgeous magenta miracles! Cousens'

philosophy is to cut out sugar totally to heal from candida and other health

challenges, and then stay on low sugar to keep it at bay. I have had a

different personal experience. I recall this experience from a few years

ago... for a while I was eating primarily only tater tots (yes, very weird,

if I wasn't gonna eat raw I was gonna eat my fav. cooked food!) And I

developed a rash on my face and neck... I knew it was imbalanced buggies

(maybe it was candida... I don't care much for disease labels, tho.) I

checked Wolfes' Sun Food Success. I took some of the advice... I got off

the tots, went all raw, used coconut oil, and followed some other tips. But

I did not take the advice of going any thing like sugar-free. I totally ate

some large mono meals of super-in-season peaches (I was in Florida!) I

totally healed and felt super! So, I dig fruit. At the Tree you can opt

out of b-fast and instead get two pieces of fruit... this will be the only

fruit that is available. I would take one fruit and make a breakfast

smoothie, then blend the fruit with basic salad ingredients (and algae, I do

love algae) and split it for my lunch and dinner. After a while I could not

touch a lot of what was on the buffet... too many nut/seed pates. (The

beautiful, tasty, entrees are totally just for fun for guests! They really

are not edible in support of a long term live diet.) So, I can see from

what you (and others) wrote that maybe my binging (in part at least) was

because of an imbalance, i.e. lack of fruit! Hey thanks for reading!

Thanks for being there! Oh, also while eating Tree food, I started to put on

weight in undesirable places, (my tummy) from all the fatty food and

constipation! I love the Tree, they are my family (all that's written here

is descriptive, not judgemental!) And now I am totally loving picking out

my own food to fit my personal Temples' needs! Blessings to you ALL!

 

On 1/27/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Alix,

> Two simple things:

>

> 1. You are not consuming enough nonfat calories (fruits) throughout the

> day,

> so that you are really hungry by evening. You turn to high calorie-density

> foods, but unfortunately those foods are also high in hard fiber and low

> in

> water, oxygen, and primary fuel (simple sugars).

>

> 2. Your new diet is peeling away the armor you have worn for years,

> decades

> even, so that feelings of all sorts are coming to the surface. This is a

> good thing, but it may not be pleasant. And one natural response is to

> return to the addictive pattern of numbing out these feelings. Heavy foods

> that clog up the system, anything low in water content and high in

> insoluble

> fiber, accomplish this numbing out beautifully ... but at a price, of

> course.

>

> Hope this provides a bit of perspective. If you are interested, we have a

> new program coming next month on emotions and food (and related matters).

> This begins with one of our free teleconferences, entitled " Do I have two

> minds, or what? !! " , Saturday, February 17th. Watch for an announcement

> soon.

>

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood <rawfood%40> [

> rawfood <rawfood%40>] On Behalf Of

> Alix Bernet

> Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:29 AM

> rawfood <rawfood%40>

> [Raw Food] nuts and seeds

>

> Hi everybody,

>

> I m 100% raw for almost 15 days, and i don't know why but i need to eat a

> lot of nuts, tahini and seeds (sunflower, pumpkins).

> I didn't digest them properly and i feel heavy and a little bit nauseous

> and

>

> of course i m quite sure i m taking weight.

> But i don't know why i need them so much. I can t finish a day without

> eating a lot.

> It's really difficult to resist and plus i don't really know how much i

> have

>

> to eat per day to have my protein. But it's too fat and my stomach is in

> rebellion.

> Perhaps 100% raw it's too hard to begin and i should begin 75% raw.

> Perhaps

> it's an emotional reaction to privation. Perhaps it s my need of protein.

> I don't have a clue honestly so if you do please give me some advices.

> Thanks

> Alix.

> x

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Shawna,

 

Thanks so much for sharing this! Cousens' books were the first raw

books I found and read. I did like some of his ideas and

explanations. But the diet just did not make sense to me. I did not

want to eat it and couldn't see how all the sprouting, complicated

recipes, etc. would work in nature. And your comment about how much

you loved the cactus fruit just shows what we are naturally designed to

eat (well, can't comment on that specific fruit--don't know it and

never had it). Anyway, your own experience, feelings, how your body

responded, should all be valued! Too often, we look to experts

for " scientific information. " Not that we have to discount science,

but I really think we need to get back to trusting ourselves.

 

Best wishes!

 

Laurie

 

rawfood , " Shawna Stursa " <shawnalovesgod

wrote:

>

I just came from

> living at the Tree of Life on and off for the past year. The level of

> dedication to my spiritual path, that I have gained from living in

the Tree

> Community, is a blessing beyond words! But, I didn't jive well with

the

> Tree food. It's all greens, non-sweet fruit, and various nut and

seed

> concoctions. Extremely little sweet fruit! When the massive prickly

pear

> cactus outside the cafe came into season, it was like the heavens

opened up

> and I partook in an angel's banquet!

[Guest guest]

Yes, this conversation is bring back to me the feeling I once had

about the live-food livestyle... it is a place of adventure and about

loving yourself, and yes trust in ones self! I love the idea that it

is the ultimate science experiment to test stuff on your self! I

wanna see how amazingly rawsome I can make myself... and I love

knowing others, like you, are there along with me! FUN! Thank you.

 

 

rawfood , " Laurie Swanson " <laurie wrote:

>

> Hi Shawna,

>

> Thanks so much for sharing this! Cousens' books were the first raw

> books I found and read. I did like some of his ideas and

> explanations. But the diet just did not make sense to me.

 

Too often, we look to experts

for " scientific information. " Not that we have to discount science,

> but I really think we need to get back to trusting ourselves.

>

> Best wishes!

>

> Laurie

>

> rawfood , " Shawna Stursa " <shawnalovesgod@>

> wrote:

> >

> I just came from

> > living at the Tree of Life on and off for the past year. The level of

> > dedication to my spiritual path, that I have gained from living in

> the Tree

> > Community, is a blessing beyond words! But, I didn't jive well with

> the

> > Tree food. It's all greens, non-sweet fruit, and various nut and

> seed

> > concoctions. Extremely little sweet fruit! When the massive prickly

> pear

> > cactus outside the cafe came into season, it was like the heavens

> opened up

> > and I partook in an angel's banquet!

>

[Guest guest]

Virginia Vetrano recommends that people eat 2 to 4 ounces of nuts and seeds

daily. In her book Errors in Hygiene?!!? she says that one of the reasons

for TC Fry's early demise was that he was not getting sufficient protein due

the fact that he wouldn't eat nuts or seeds. She says that in her practice

she has seen lots of people run into problems trying to live on fruit alone.

 

 

 

Doug Graham, on the other hand, says that no more than 10% of calories

should come from protein and no more than 10% of calories should come from

fat, with at least 80% of calories coming from carbohydrates in the form of

raw fruits and vegetables. I believe he goes without eating nuts or seeds

for months at a time, and I'm not sure he even thinks these foods are

necessary in the diet. I think he perhaps does recommend more greens than

Vetrano.

 

 

 

2 to 4 ounces of nuts or seeds daily could, depending on your total calorie

intake, put you well over his 10% of calories from fat threshold.

 

 

 

Herbert Shelton, Dr. Vetrano's teacher, also apparently recommended 2 to 4

ounces of nuts and seeds. But he had his own health problems (Parkinson's

disease), and as I understand it, was bedridden for over a decade in the

last years of his life. Would it have helped him to have eaten fewer nuts

and seeds and more greens?

 

 

 

So on the one hand you have Vetrano and Shelton saying that you could run

into big problems with protein deficiency if you don't eat nuts and seeds,

and on the other hand you have Graham saying that you could run into big

problems (such as coronary artery disease) by eating too many nuts and seeds

and taking in too many calories from fat, and that nuts and seed eating may

not even be necessary.

 

 

 

Who is right?

 

 

 

Mark