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Look up " oil pulling " in a google search. I did oil pulling for two or

three weeks, once a day, first thing in the morning, using extra virgin

coconut oil, and it healed up a problem of loose gums around one tooth.

 

They do say that oil pulling can result in a detox, however. And sure

enough, I developed a bad cold, my first cold since Nov. 2005.

 

Judy

 

 

 

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:51 PM, emilyc615 <emilyc615 wrote:

 

> My teeth are a little loose. I've been " raw " off and on since November.

> I'm increasing my greens (especially kale) drastically to re-mineralize and

> I bought a bottle of vitamineral green. I'm trying to take a lot of vitamin

> D and get sun exposure, avoid salt, cut back on fruit, etc.

>

> Has anyone else had teeth problems that they were able to resolve without

> going off " raw " ? Are there any other foods I can eat for teeth health?

>

> Thank you!

>

> -Emily

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I found that my teeth feel stronger when I chew " dry " greens. By dry,

I mean fresh organic greens, but with no dressing, oils, or even

avocado; just the greens. I suspect the teeth and gums are absorbing

minerals right from the greens. The oils, etc. on the teeth and greens

would act as a barrier to that process.

 

The teeth and gums also need exercise. The western diet is far from

our original diet that required a lot of chewing. Even modern raw food

diets commonly use processors and blenders. So, be sure to do plenty

of chewing. One tool that Victoria Boutenko has promoted is a chewing

devices, such as the Myo Munchie. They are mad of either silicone or

natural rubber and are chewed on to exercise the teeth and jaw.

Victoria may have such a tool available (rawfamily.com). They may not

be " natural " , but can give the teeth and jaw extra exercise without

the same stress as hard foods.

 

Congrats on upping the intake of greens and sun!

 

Fruits are still important, but most fruits from far away are picked

too early making them more acidic.

 

Some people rinse immediately after eating, even when they can't

brush. Rinse water with an alkalizing agent (like baking soda)will

help neutralize acid in the mouth.

 

Jeff

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Hi Emily,

You don't have to stop eating fruit, or eat less of it, or eat things that

you otherwise might not (like dense greens or green powders) in order to

avoid dental issues. Fruit eating does not cause tooth decay, although

there are some things that need to be known, relative to the prevention of

dental problems, by anyone who desires to follow nature's lead and eat a

primarily fruit diet. Some of these have been explored in depth on the

RawSchool , the archives of which are open to the public. If

you'd like personalized help or guidance, I also offer coaching discounts

for local (Seattle) raw fooders.

 

Best wishes,

Nora

www.RawSchool.com

www.RawTreasure.com

 

 

 

 

My teeth are a little loose. I've been " raw " off and on since November. I'm

increasing my greens (especially kale) drastically to re-mineralize and I

bought a bottle of vitamineral green. I'm trying to take a lot of vitamin D

and get sun exposure, avoid salt, cut back on fruit, etc.

>

> Has anyone else had teeth problems that they were able to resolve without

> going off " raw " ? Are there any other foods I can eat for teeth health?

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Emily,

 

As a broad generalization, Nora is correct, fruits do not, in and of

themselves, cause oral health problems.

 

Oral health typically accrues over a long time period ... what you did

decades ago, and even what your parents did, contributes to your oral health

today. Remember, a symptom today may be nothing more than your body's

attempt to clean up a mess from the past ... in which case there is nothing

at all to do. Or, it may be some long-term degenerative process. We don't

have sufficient information from you to make such a distinction.

 

What do you eat in addition to fruits (e.g., nuts, seeds, sprouted grains,

and the like)? And are you combining fruits, if so in what ways (typically)?

 

Emotions can also influence oral health, sometimes quite significantly. If

you pause and reflect back of the time period before and during your current

experience, what has happened in your life, in you?

 

Also, I disagree with Nora in one respect, namely, every aspect of our

health is indeed favorably influenced by incorporating greens on a regular

basis into one's dietary. Jeff has already shared a nice post describing his

own experience in this regard, and I can tell you that others, myself

included, have experienced the same. And ... I recognize that this is an

area of long-term disagreement with Nora, we just hold different perceptions

in the matter.

 

Best regards,

Elchanan

_____

 

Nora Lenz

Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:00 PM

 

Re: Tooth problems

 

Hi Emily,

You don't have to stop eating fruit, or eat less of it, or eat things that

you otherwise might not (like dense greens or green powders) in order to

avoid dental issues. Fruit eating does not cause tooth decay, although there

are some things that need to be known, relative to the prevention of dental

problems, by anyone who desires to follow nature's lead and eat a primarily

fruit diet. Some of these have been explored in depth on the RawSchool

group, the archives of which are open to the public. If you'd like

personalized help or guidance, I also offer coaching discounts for local

(Seattle) raw fooders.

 

Best wishes,

Nora

 

 

 

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" Also, I disagree with Nora in one respect, namely, every aspect of our

health is indeed favorably influenced by incorporating greens on a regular

basis into one's dietary. Jeff has already shared a nice post describing his

own experience in this regard, and I can tell you that others, myself

included, have experienced the same. And ... I recognize that this is an

area of long-term disagreement with Nora, we just hold different perceptions

in the matter. "

 

Hi Elchanan,

I think you may have misunderstood my post. Your comments imply that I said

(or meant/implied) that health is UNfavorably influenced by greens-eating,

which I did not. It is not my view that greens should *not* be incorporated

into one's diet. What I said in my post was an entirely different

statement -- that a person can avoid dental problems without giving up fruit

OR forcing him/herself to eat foods s/he would not otherwise choose to eat

(like dense greens or green powders). If you disagree with this, I'd be

happy to discuss it further.

 

Thanks much,

Nora

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Ok, I'll try to give a few more details. My gum-lines are receding a bit, and I

think it's due to overly vigorous brushing as I don't have any of the other

symptoms of degenerative gum disease, but I can't be sure. I'm going to try to

see the dentist soon to confirm. In any case, I've always had pretty good oral

hygiene, brushing at least twice a day, but not flossing like I should. I was

depressed in the past, before becoming a raw fooder, and I used to take prozac.

(I've learned that it contains fluoride, and I think I may even have a touch of

dental fluorosis from childhood, judging by some discoloration patterns on my

teeth). I'll be turning 21 in June, so obviously, I'm still pretty young. I've

become much gentler with my oral hygiene routine, but I still brush frequently.

I switched to a clay-based toothpaste-- nothing harsh, free of fluoride,

containing ionic calcium and magnesium, and relying on colloidal silver water,

baking soda, and essential oils to cleanse.

 

I try to follow the food-combining rules of natural hygiene. I eat sweet fruits

together or with sub-acid fruits, and acid fruits together or with sub-acid

fruits. The only sweet fruits I eat are bananas, unless you classify mangoes as

sweet, but I believe they're sub-acid. I eat greens with just about any fruit.

I'm trying to eat at least a head of lettuce or bunch of greens a day, on top of

the occasional handful of nuts and seeds, but I've cut back on the fat and oils

quite a lot. I mix other veggies in as well, carrots, celery, cucumbers, sweet

peppers, etc. I definitely eat a lot of fruit. I don't spend much time planning

my diet, and I realize that I probably should, but I'm trying to be raw on a

budget.

 

So I hope that helps a bit?

 

-Emily

 

, " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Emily,

>

> As a broad generalization, Nora is correct, fruits do not, in and of

> themselves, cause oral health problems.

>

> Oral health typically accrues over a long time period ... what you did

> decades ago, and even what your parents did, contributes to your oral health

> today. Remember, a symptom today may be nothing more than your body's

> attempt to clean up a mess from the past ... in which case there is nothing

> at all to do. Or, it may be some long-term degenerative process. We don't

> have sufficient information from you to make such a distinction.

>

> What do you eat in addition to fruits (e.g., nuts, seeds, sprouted grains,

> and the like)? And are you combining fruits, if so in what ways (typically)?

>

> Emotions can also influence oral health, sometimes quite significantly. If

> you pause and reflect back of the time period before and during your current

> experience, what has happened in your life, in you?

>

> Also, I disagree with Nora in one respect, namely, every aspect of our

> health is indeed favorably influenced by incorporating greens on a regular

> basis into one's dietary. Jeff has already shared a nice post describing his

> own experience in this regard, and I can tell you that others, myself

> included, have experienced the same. And ... I recognize that this is an

> area of long-term disagreement with Nora, we just hold different perceptions

> in the matter.

>

> Best regards,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> Nora Lenz

> Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:00 PM

>

> Re: Tooth problems

>

> Hi Emily,

> You don't have to stop eating fruit, or eat less of it, or eat things that

> you otherwise might not (like dense greens or green powders) in order to

> avoid dental issues. Fruit eating does not cause tooth decay, although there

> are some things that need to be known, relative to the prevention of dental

> problems, by anyone who desires to follow nature's lead and eat a primarily

> fruit diet. Some of these have been explored in depth on the RawSchool

> group, the archives of which are open to the public. If you'd like

> personalized help or guidance, I also offer coaching discounts for local

> (Seattle) raw fooders.

>

> Best wishes,

> Nora

>

>

>

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Emily,

 

I oil pull with coconut oil, just for 5 minutes or so. After spitting and

rinsing, I rub more oil on gums and leave it on. Works great for me! Good luck.

 

Peace on earth.

 

Cheryl

 

 

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