Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Leanne [leanne] >>...it is this excess protein that is a major cause of osteoporosis.<< It's a myth that osteoporosis is causes by " excessive protein. " While excessive protein in one's diet influences a number of related health factors, medical literature does not support this particular conclusion. I know you can go to dozens, maybe hundreds, of websites to find nonmedical reports supporting the myth. However, among a sizable number of influencing factors for osteoporosis, excessive " cortisol " seems to speed up bone loss (osteoporosis) faster than any other. Cortisol levels seem to be influenced mostly by aging, either natural or induced, and stress, either too much or too little. I know this is an incomplete picture of the process but hopefully enough to start people thinking about dispelling the excess protein myth. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 I have read it is mostly the calcium-phosphorus ratio which is one of the most important factors in this issue. " Phosphorus in excess amounts interferes with one's ability to absorb bone-building calcium from the intestines. Phosphorus (which is found in animal protein, dairy products and cola soft drinks) also activates the release of a hormone that in turn causes the body to pull calcium out of the bones. So when calcium intakes are low to borderline and phosphorus intakes are too high, bone loss is more likely to occur " , according to Dr. Robert Lang. ( he is quoted saying this in an article in a cookbook I own called 'New Vegetarian Cuisine' by Linda Rosensweig and the food editors of Prevention Magazine) He also goes on in the article to mention how a meat diet is higher in acids as a rule than a more plant based diet; goes into more detail that I have time to type up right now, but I can perhaps tomorrow if you are interested. ~ PT ~ Neither fire nor wind, birth nor death can erase our good deeds. ~Buddha ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~*~~~~~~~> , " daveo " <daveo@m...> wrote: > > > Leanne [leanne@a...] > > >>...it is this excess protein that > is a major cause of osteoporosis.<< > > It's a myth that osteoporosis is causes by " excessive protein. " While > excessive protein in one's diet influences a number of related health > factors, medical literature does not support this particular conclusion. > > I know you can go to dozens, maybe hundreds, of websites to find nonmedical > reports supporting the myth. > > However, among a sizable number of influencing factors for osteoporosis, > excessive " cortisol " seems to speed up bone loss (osteoporosis) faster than > any other. Cortisol levels seem to be influenced mostly by aging, either > natural or induced, and stress, either too much or too little. > > I know this is an incomplete picture of the process but hopefully enough to > start people thinking about dispelling the excess protein myth. > > Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 The specific details escape me for the moment too. Portions of what you mention seems to also be connected to the process I'm referring too. When I first read the info, I was surprised at the total lack of connection between protein consumption and loss of bone density. Over the next week, I'll locate the info. Inquiring minds will find it quite interesting. Dave ~ P_T ~ [patchouli_troll] I have read it is mostly the calcium-phosphorus ratio which is one of the most important factors in this issue. " Phosphorus in excess amounts interferes with one's ability to absorb bone-building calcium from the intestines. Phosphorus (which is found in animal protein, dairy products and cola soft drinks) also activates the release of a hormone that in turn causes the body to pull calcium out of the bones. So when calcium intakes are low to borderline and phosphorus intakes are too high, bone loss is more likely to occur " , according to Dr. Robert Lang. ( he is quoted saying this in an article in a cookbook I own called 'New Vegetarian Cuisine' by Linda Rosensweig and the food editors of Prevention Magazine) He also goes on in the article to mention how a meat diet is higher in acids as a rule than a more plant based diet; goes into more detail that I have time to type up right now, but I can perhaps tomorrow if you are interested. ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 This is what I learned several years ago before becaoming veg*an. It is the calcium-phosphorus ratio. Because of the large amounts of phosphoric acid in sodas,meat and dairy products those who consume these products on a regular basis are more prone to suffer from osteo problems. Sonya Message: 13 Fri, 14 Mar 2003 05:08:11 -0000 " ~ P_T ~ " <patchouli_troll Re: " Excess protein " is a myth I have read it is mostly the calcium-phosphorus ratio which is one of the most important factors in this issue. " Phosphorus in excess amounts interferes with one's ability to absorb bone-building calcium from the intestines. Phosphorus (which is found in animal protein, dairy products and cola soft drinks) also activates the release of a hormone that in turn causes the body to pull calcium out of the bones. So when calcium intakes are low to borderline and phosphorus intakes are too high, bone loss is more likely to occur " , according to Dr. Robert Lang. ( he is quoted saying this in an article in a cookbook I own called 'New Vegetarian Cuisine' by Linda Rosensweig and the food editors of Prevention Magazine) He also goes on in the article to mention how a meat diet is higher in acids as a rule than a more plant based diet; goes into more detail that I have time to type up right now, but I can perhaps tomorrow if you are interested. ~ PT ~ Neither fire nor wind, birth nor death can erase our good deeds. ~Buddha Web Hosting - establish your business online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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