Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 There is some fear of aluminum ever since increased levels of it were found in the brains of Alzheimer's patients but it seems it may be an urban legend / cultural myth sort of fear. I've heard of people avoiding soda due to the cans, etc. It can get ridiculous and likely it's no big deal, especially if one is only occasionally using it for grilling. On Wednesday, March 19, 2003, at 05:58 AM, (AT) (DOT) com wrote: > Re: Grill recipe sort of > > Eek! Really? I didn't know that. > I will have to designate one of my cookie sheets > for that use now. Thanks for the tip. > > ~ PT ~ > > Peace rules the day, where reason rules the mind. > ~ Wilkie Collins > ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~> > , " Pixx " <lists@p...> wrote: >> PT~ >> Cooking in aluminium foil is considered by many to be unhealthy.... >> You may want to consider purchasing an inexpensive steel pan >> [such as a square cake pan, or cookie sheet] for use on the grill. >> It's what I use, and it works great! >> >> Pixx >> " There are as many good writers as ever there were. The problem is that there are so few good readers. " --Gore Vidal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 peace, im gonna have to look further into it i was in my kitchen about to get rid of all of the foil!! i have to do some research now. im new to this group please keep building im loving this. The Stewarts <stews9 wrote:There is some fear of aluminum ever since increased levels of it were found in the brains of Alzheimer's patients but it seems it may be an urban legend / cultural myth sort of fear. I've heard of people avoiding soda due to the cans, etc. It can get ridiculous and likely it's no big deal, especially if one is only occasionally using it for grilling. On Wednesday, March 19, 2003, at 05:58 AM, (AT) (DOT) com wrote: > Re: Grill recipe sort of > > Eek! Really? I didn't know that. > I will have to designate one of my cookie sheets > for that use now. Thanks for the tip. > > ~ PT ~ > > Peace rules the day, where reason rules the mind. > ~ Wilkie Collins > ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~> > , " Pixx " <lists@p...> wrote: >> PT~ >> Cooking in aluminium foil is considered by many to be unhealthy.... >> You may want to consider purchasing an inexpensive steel pan >> [such as a square cake pan, or cookie sheet] for use on the grill. >> It's what I use, and it works great! >> >> Pixx >> " There are as many good writers as ever there were. The problem is that there are so few good readers. " --Gore Vidal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 Just like just about anything, there are those who stand on opposing sides of the fence on this........ [how many were told " it's all in your head " before Drs decided that Fibromyalgia was 'real'? Or hypoglycemia? or ADD? and who knows what else?] I stand on the side of safety......so maybe I am being " ridiculous " , As I avoid all aluminium that I possibly can. My pots and pans are all stainless steel, I use Rumford brand baking soda, because it is one of the rare few baking sodas that does not have aluminum in it, and I do not use antiperspirant [there is a difference between deodorant, and antiperspirant] as it also has aluminium in it. Yes, I do have an occasional soda in a can, but I go for glass whenever possible. Have you ever seen the white powder that builds up in an aluminium pot or pan? I choose not to cook with a pot or pan [or foil] that will leach out into my food! As I pointed out in my original post........ >> " considered by many " and >> " You may want " I have tried to make it as clear as possible; I am not trying to force my view on this to anyone, simply sharing what I 'know'. Pixx On 19 Mar 2003 at 7:45, The Stewarts wrote: > There is some fear of aluminum ever since increased levels of it were > found in the brains of Alzheimer's patients but it seems it may be an > urban legend / cultural myth sort of fear. > > I've heard of people avoiding soda due to the cans, etc. It can get > ridiculous and likely it's no big deal, especially if one is only > occasionally using it for grilling. > > > On Wednesday, March 19, 2003, at 05:58 AM, > wrote: > > > Re: Grill recipe sort of > > > > Eek! Really? I didn't know that. > > I will have to designate one of my cookie sheets > > for that use now. Thanks for the tip. > > > > ~ PT ~ > > > > Peace rules the day, where reason rules the mind. > > ~ Wilkie Collins > > ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~> > > , " Pixx " <lists@p...> > > wrote: > >> PT~ > >> Cooking in aluminium foil is considered by many to be unhealthy.... > >> You may want to consider purchasing an inexpensive steel pan [such > >> as a square cake pan, or cookie sheet] for use on the grill. It's > >> what I use, and it works great! > >> > >> Pixx == http://pixxart.com the Art of Living in Health, Peace, & Light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 I appreciate your sharing of the info. I think I have some aluminum pans, but I have already heard about the antiperspirant thing and nobody in our house uses it; we do use a brand that is just a deodorant. I prefer to err on the side of caution whenever I can do so easily enough and it doesn't feel too extreme to me. I think taking a few steps to just play it safe with things we aren't sure or not might be harmful is just common sense. I think avoiding the use of the toss-away aluminum foil in grilling has another benefit besides just playing it safe. Using a pan you can rewash and use over again is less wasteful and better for the environment. Now if it also helps me avoid contact with a possible toxin build-up in my system it is all the better. So, from myself, thanks for the helpful idea. ~ feral ~ He alone may chastise who loves. ~Rabindranath Tagore, poet, philosopher, author, songwriter, painter, educator, composer, Nobel laureate (1861-1941) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> , " Pixx " <lists@p...> wrote: > As I pointed out in my original post........ > >> " considered by many " > and > >> " You may want " > I have tried to make it as clear as possible; I am not trying to force > my view on this to anyone, simply sharing what I 'know'. > > Pixx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 i've been away a while... so this is gonna be a reply to many posts i've read through today..... i've been taught in many of my classes (mostly health and psychology classes..) that yes aluminum is being researched in link to some diseases of the brain such as alzheimers. however, from what i have been told, the link between the two is mostly seen in people who already have the diseases in their family. so basically saying it may not necessarily cause the alzheimers, but perhaps speed up or enhance the chances of one getting the disease should it be running strongly in the family. this doesn't mean i dont' think it could cause it.. from my point, if it enhances one's possibility to get it if it runs in the family, then there are chances it can cause it period. but i dont'really think the chances of it causing health problems for people is very significant. hope that makes sense lol. and while on the discussion of cooking in containers.. (you may already be aware) but reheating foods in plastic containers is also said to be unhealthy as it may leak carcinogens into your food. although i find it interesting that many seemed concerned about the way that you yourselves prepare your food.. but do many of you wonder about what is put into your food before you get it yourself? one of the things that greatly concerns me is all the chemicals and preservatives and artificial things that are being placed in foods nowadays... just seems that if one is concerned about what may be put into their food after they get it.. (i.e. residue from aluminum etc..) that he or she should think about what is put in before one recieves the product as well. ( hope i didnt'come off rude or anything in this paragraph.. absolutely not my intent... but i know things can get misread... just hoping to get people thinking about these things as well.. if they aren't already lol) also, a note on jiffy mixes. while most of their mixes do contain lard (from what i have seen it is all of the muffin mixes and their small boxes of buttermilk biscuit mix..) the baking/biscuit mixes that they sell in the larger boxes,do not contain lard. it contains whey and a few other milk derivitives ... but not lard. sorry this was so long! michelle Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 Yes, I know about the plastic......that is why I use glass, and steel. And I fully agree with you about " all the chemicals and preservatives and artificial things " . It's simply awful what things have come to. " Progress " isnt always better............ Pixx On 20 Mar 2003 at 17:56, ~michelle~ wrote: > i've been away a while... so this is gonna be a reply > to many posts i've read through today..... > > i've been taught in many of my classes (mostly health > and psychology classes..) that yes aluminum is being > researched in link to some diseases of the brain such > as alzheimers. however, from what i have been told, > the link between the two is mostly seen in people who > already have the diseases in their family. so > basically saying it may not necessarily cause the > alzheimers, but perhaps speed up or enhance the > chances of one getting the disease should it be > running strongly in the family. this doesn't mean i > dont' think it could cause it.. from my point, if it > enhances one's possibility to get it if it runs in the > family, then there are chances it can cause it period. > but i dont'really think the chances of it causing > health problems for people is very significant. hope > that makes sense lol. > > and while on the discussion of cooking in containers.. > (you may already be aware) but reheating foods in > plastic containers is also said to be unhealthy as it > may leak carcinogens into your food. > > although i find it interesting that many seemed > concerned about the way that you yourselves prepare > your food.. but do many of you wonder about what is > put into your food before you get it yourself? one of > the things that greatly concerns me is all the > chemicals and preservatives and artificial things that > are being placed in foods nowadays... just seems that > if one is concerned about what may be put into their > food after they get it.. (i.e. residue from aluminum > etc..) that he or she should think about what is put > in before one recieves the product as well. ( hope i > didnt'come off rude or anything in this paragraph.. > absolutely not my intent... but i know things can get > misread... just hoping to get people thinking about > these things as well.. if they aren't already lol) > > also, a note on jiffy mixes. while most of their > mixes do contain lard (from what i have seen it is all > of the muffin mixes and their small boxes of > buttermilk biscuit mix..) the baking/biscuit mixes > that they sell in the larger boxes,do not contain > lard. it contains whey and a few other milk > derivitives ... but not lard. > > sorry this was so long! > michelle > > > > Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! > http://platinum. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 > I choose not to cook with a pot or pan [or > foil] that will leach out into my food! > Not a pleasant thought, is it? My husband hates things in plastic for much the same sort of reason, I think. But where do you stand on the matter of the cast-iron skillet? I ask, not to hassle, but as a matter of curiosity. best, pat sant - canada -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " - Albert Schweitzer * " The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men " - Leonardo da Vinci * " The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men. " - Alice Walker ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 , ~michelle~ < goldfish_cracker_addict> wrote: > and while on the discussion of cooking in containers.. > (you may already be aware) but reheating foods in > plastic containers is also said to be unhealthy as it > may leak carcinogens into your food. Yes! Good point and I am glad you mentioned it. I found, back when I did this, that things didn't heat verey well in plastic anyway. They seem to do much better in small ceramic or glass dishes. Not to mention they don't pick up this plasticy taste. *bleh* > > do many of you wonder about what is > put into your food before you get it yourself? one of > the things that greatly concerns me is all the > chemicals and preservatives and artificial things that > are being placed in foods nowadays... just seems that > if one is concerned about what may be put into their > food after they get it.. Yes, I am concerned about this and also about the way food science seems to be experimenting on us with GM foods. I read labels, try to find out what exactly the bigger or odd words mean and try to buy organic/less processed food as much as I can find available. I know we need some food preservation additives to keep the cost down and the shelf-life of our food supply available etc. But I also wonder if many of the cancer rate increases we see is a result of this trend and wonder how we can avoid it and keep food safe. > also, a note on jiffy mixes. the baking/biscuit mixes > that they sell in the larger boxes,do not contain > lard. it contains whey and a few other milk > derivitives ... but not lard. That is good to know. Thanks. I never looked at the big box label before after having read enough of the smaller boxes that use lard. My thinking on this is that they might make it on the same equipment as the other and thus have trace elements in the mix. Also, I find the fact that they use lard to be sort of unethical, in the smaller cheap boxes of mixes, and so I sort of boycot them; that is just me and my opinion and I am not trying to foist it on others. Making your own baking-bicuit mix is so easy, way less expensive, AND you control what is in it. Again, another plug for the recipe in our files in the 'master mix' folder titled 'quick mix'. ~ PT ~ The instinct of a man is to pursue everything that flies from him, and to fly from all that pursue him. ~Voltaire, philosopher (1694-1778) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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