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You need to eat more complex carbs and more calories, at least 1200 a day,

or your body shuts down.

 

On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 04:39 PM,

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> Message: 8

> Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:11:09 -0700 (PDT)

> Kelly Pavlik <wantstolearn1

> Re: Weight gain -- List O Food

>

> Alright I'm writing my list of food today for everyone to comment on (be

> nice!)

>

> Breakfast - Cereal Bar 160 cal 4 fat

> Lunch - Cucumber Cheese Melt 249 cal 3.1 fat (btw Mmm!)

> - Baked Beans 1/2 cup 160 cal

> Dinner - I will be having 3 or 4 stuffed shells (following recipe 5

> shells are 395 this does not include the tomato sauce (ragu tomato, onion

> and garlic - I don't like tomato sauce I won't use much of it anyway)

> (shells are stuffed with ricotta, parmesan, mushrooms and spinach - I

> wonder if I should add some minced onion hmm.)

>

> I only drink water and the occassional green tea. If a snack is needed I

> only have veggies, cereal bars and yogart in the house.

>

> Total Cal. 964 (not counting a snack, snack would be no more than 160

> cal) (you know give or take because who knows how accurate these counts

> on the recipes really are anyway)

>

> Ok and this is how I've honestly been eating for the last week and for

> the last 2 months eating similiar to this but with meat in some dishes.

> I don't like carbonated water, so I don't really drink much soda.

>

> I learned last night that yoga for 1/2 hour burns 200 cals, pilates burns

> about the same for 1/2 hour, and swimming burns about 250 per 1/2 hour

> and walking was less but I don't remember how much. So I figure I burn

> at least 150 cals per day. (I do not remember the website)

>

> To me this sounds healthy... what am I missing?

> -K

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NOT!!!

 

If this were actually true, then people who fast (and take in ZERO calories)

would be in deep trouble. From personal experience, I can fast for a week

(drinking only water) and still jog 4 1/2 miles each day without any feeling

that my body has shut down.

 

Dave

 

 

 

The Stewarts [stews9]

Wednesday, June 18, 2003 2:55 PM

 

Eating Enough As Important As Not Eating Too

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You need to eat more complex carbs and more calories, at least 1200 a day,

or your body shuts down.

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I can see the human body allowing for a week with no adverse effects. But what

about the longer periods of time it would take to lose more than the weight one

would lose in a week? Say, for example, someone who has 95 pounds to lose.

 

Lois

 

 

 

 

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I'm assuming you refer to my email about fasting for a week. Diet alone in

not a solution for permenant weight loss, and fasting for extreme periods of

time is probably not a good solution either.

 

My sources say that for a healthy diet, calorie-wise, a woman ought to have

1,200 - 1,400 cal/day. A man ought to have 1,600 - 1,800 cal/day. Clearly,

this is intended to be a guideline b/c each person's situation is different.

More strenuous activity would over time require more calories.

 

Ultimately, I believe there is probably a lower limit for calorie

consumption for someone to remain healthy, but I don't remember ever seeing

anything like that in print from a serious medical source.

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

Lois [lrstrappello]

Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:46 AM

 

RE: Eating Enough As Important As Not Eating

Too Much

 

I can see the human body allowing for a week with no adverse effects. But

what about the longer periods of time it would take to lose more than the

weight one would lose in a week? Say, for example, someone who has 95

pounds to lose.

 

Lois

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There is some recent research out there, with rats, about how when

their calorie intake was reduced by 40% or so, they were found to

live longer. (the control group ate as much as they damn well

pleased). i guess the idea is that because of their hoarding instinct

rats don't know when to say when. the researchers suggested this

might also apply to humans based on the theory that metabolism causes

aging.

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This idea is actually not new. It's formalized in the " calorie reduction "

movement. There is also a CR Society focused on promoting it. Normally,

they are not veggie.

 

My earlier calorie numbers of 1,200 and 1,600 were taken from them.

 

Dave

 

 

 

dave [dave4sale]

Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:12 AM

 

Re: Eating Enough As Important As Not Eating

Too Much

 

There is some recent research out there, with rats, about how when

their calorie intake was reduced by 40% or so, they were found to

live longer. (the control group ate as much as they damn well

pleased). i guess the idea is that because of their hoarding instinct

rats don't know when to say when. the researchers suggested this

might also apply to humans based on the theory that metabolism causes

aging.

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