Guest guest Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 On Sunday, August 17, 2003, at 08:43 AM, wrote: > Message: 3 > Sat, 16 Aug 2003 18:14:50 -0000 > " Sheryl " <ssarndt > Re: Melody's stories > > What was it you called that Gene? >> Ethical Tolerance. [or at least that's what I'm telling myself > these >> days. lol. some meals are difficult to get through.] > > > I liked what Gene said about non-smokers not allowing smoking in > their homes. It only makes sense! Years ago everyone had ashtrays > in their homes even if they didn't smoke. It was just assumed it > was OK. Now, attitudes have changed and no one smokes in anyone's > homes unless they too are smokers. My dad smoked when I was a child > and always did in the house. Today, he still smokes, but only does > it outside. I started thinking that meat and not eating it is > similar in many ways. It smells bad when being cooked, it's bloody > and gross and unethical to have around to non-meat eaters, so it's > just like smoking in many ways. The parallel is a good one, especially from a veggie standpoint. > I have lived with rooommates who cooked meat in the house. I never > felt it was my right to tell them they could not since they did pay > their 1/2 of the rent. I never liked it. The smell made me very > uncomfortable and just the mere presence of dead flesh made me > uncomfortable. And like smoking, the smell of meat goes all through everything. When meat is cooked, in fact, microscopic molecules of fat diffuse through the air and stick to anything they touch. Very difficult to be rid of, as they are greasy and don't dissolve or evaporate. Just as one can smell a smoker and can even smell the smoke on items from the smoker's home, so it is with meat. > I guess I have just decided that I don't like to be > uncomfortable in my own home and that one way to alleviate it is > just not to allow it at all, so I currently live alone. Good for you. Why should you be uncomfortable in your own home? > I also do not like going into regular grocery stores with large meat > counters. I have walked into many grocery stores and just felt all > gross about being in there! Yes, some of the displays are barbaric. > Has this ever happened to anyone else? All the time. Makes me queasy and I avoid the meat counters as much as I can and walk past quickly with gaze averted when I must. > I guess I just sense the smell and presence of death and it makes me > uncomfortable. Not only that, but the smell and sight of rotting > flesh bothers me too. Yes, it's like a horror movie. > I wish there were stores like Wild Oats or > Whole Foods that didn't sell any meat at all! Wild Oats sells meat, unfortunately. In fact, our local one, which is the only one until Colorado I believe, is tending to emphasize organic and de-emphasize vegetarian, which really alarms us. Many of the items we've come to like and rely on aren't carried any longer. It's bad. > We need 100% > vegetarian stores! No death allowed! I agree. Hope some come along soon. I've also wondered many times why, say, Morningstar Farms, which is huge and backed by an even bigger company, doesn't open a chain of All Vegetarian chain restaurants for travellers. They've got a wide-enough range of products to serve three meals a day, easily. And I'd sure patronize them. > > " Magick is as mysterious as mathematics, as empirical as poetry, as uncertain as golf, and as dependent on the personal equation as love. " -- Aleister Crowley, Magick in Theory and Practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 >And like smoking, the smell of meat goes all through >everything....Just as one can smell a smoker and can >even smell the smoke on items from the smoker's home, >so it is with meat. **I can't smell, I had no idea.....that is totally gross!! >I avoid the meat counters as much as I can and walk >past quickly with gaze averted when I must. **Oh, I do that as well....it is unnerving to me. >Morningstar Farms, which is huge and backed by an even bigger company, It is one of several " brands " of Kelloggs: http://www.kelloggs.com look under brands I haven't followed all of this thread...sorry if this was recently posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 > I've also wondered many times why, say, Morningstar Farms, which is huge > and backed by an even bigger company, doesn't open a chain of All > Vegetarian chain restaurants for travellers. They've got a wide- enough > range of products to serve three meals a day, easily. And I'd sure > patronize them. I would patronize them if Kellogg's gave in and agreed to stop using GMO's in their products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 Yes! That would be lovely if there were fast food places like those, even if one of the larger chains started serving more than just a veggieburger or tossed salad as our only " veg " options. They could easily market this concept to appeal to a broader range of consumers than just the vegetarian demographic. Nowadays there are enough people who have health concerns such as obesity, high blood pressure, high cholesterol and many people are learning the health benefits of eating soy for other health reasons such as women going through 'the change'. It could work I think. The recent issue of VegTimes has an article I plan to read today about the fast food restaurants. I am particularly interested to read how they deal with McDonalds as I have yet to speak to one veggie person who as anything nice at all to say about them. ~ PT ~ The very least you can do in your life is to figure out what you hope for.Ê And the most you can do is live inside that hope. ~ Barbara Kingsolver ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~~> , The Stewarts <stews9@c...> wrote: > I've also wondered many times why, say, Morningstar Farms, which is huge > and backed by an even bigger company, doesn't open a chain of All > Vegetarian chain restaurants for travellers. They've got a wide-enough > range of products to serve three meals a day, easily. And I'd sure > patronize them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 I admit that I have worked at those fast food places but I only did it because of the money. I agree that there should be more veggie fast food places. Taco Bell has a few veggie things like bean buretto but it's still nothing I would eat because of the calorie and fat content. I don't want to be overweight. I wish that these resturants would add more veggie choices to their menus other than salads or veggie burgers. Maybe a soy burger but you have to go to the grocery store to buy those. It would make it alot less of a pain for veggies who travel alot too. There is a veggie resturant within driving distance but I never been there. We do need more of those types of places for real or at the very least the non veggie resturants should have veggie dishes too. Jessika ~ P_T ~ <patchouli_troll wrote: Yes! That would be lovely if there were fast food places like those, even if one of the larger chains started serving more than just a veggieburger or tossed salad as our only " veg " options. They could easily market this concept to appeal to a broader range of consumers than just the vegetarian demographic. Nowadays there are enough people who have health concerns such as obesity, high blood pressure, high cholesterol and many people are learning the health benefits of eating soy for other health reasons such as women going through 'the change'. It could work I think. The recent issue of VegTimes has an article I plan to read today about the fast food restaurants. I am particularly interested to read how they deal with McDonalds as I have yet to speak to one veggie person who as anything nice at all to say about them. ~ PT ~ The very least you can do in your life is to figure out what you hope for.Ê And the most you can do is live inside that hope. ~ Barbara Kingsolver ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~~> , The Stewarts <stews9@c...> wrote: > I've also wondered many times why, say, Morningstar Farms, which is huge > and backed by an even bigger company, doesn't open a chain of All > Vegetarian chain restaurants for travellers. They've got a wide-enough > range of products to serve three meals a day, easily. And I'd sure > patronize them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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