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[Guest guest]

Hi, all. I just joined (last night), and I thought I should post an

introduction. I'm Carla, 33, and have no idea what to say next...or

who, in fact, I'm talking to. I've skimmed the last three days of

posts, and there're a bewildering variety of people and conversations

going on. I'm sure all will become clear in time.

Anyway, the cookie recipes in the files section look lovely...I'm not

much of a cook, but I bake well (I mean, I bake *other things* well; I

have never been baked), and like to ply family with cookies. A whole

batch of assorted veggie cookies would be a fun project.

Ta for now.

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group!! Yes, you will note that at any given time

there are several discussions going on. Please feel free to add

your $.02 (or whatever currency you like) to the discussion! One of

the more recent has been off-topic and about smoking and I believe

that we have politely ENDED that conversation. I posted a question

to the group some time ago about how vegetarians live with meat-

eaters. Do you live with any meat-eaters? If you do, do you allow

meat in the house? If not, would you? I personally was having some

difficulty with this. I have not eaten meat in many years and

currently live alone. I also do not currently have a relationship

and was trying to decide if it would be fair of me, should I engage

in a relationship with a meat-eater, to refuse to allow meat in the

house in any shape or form. I have some friends who thought I was

being unfair and that I should compromise and allow it. One of our

members posted that it is akin to being a non-smoker and allowing

people to smoke in your house. (I would NOT.) I've actually come

to the conclusion that I have to stick to my guns on this one and

find someone who shares my values and beliefs (or can at least

respect them enough not to bring it into the house.) What do you

think????

 

sheryl in albuquerque

 

 

, " grrl4Chris "

<journalfaery> wrote:

> Hi, all. I just joined (last night), and I thought I should post an

> introduction. I'm Carla, 33, and have no idea what to say next...or

> who, in fact, I'm talking to.

[Guest guest]

Well, I was going to hold off on my two cents' worth until I had some

clue what was going on, but that was an interesting question, so I'll

jump on in. lol It's only two cents Canadian in my case, so that's

what, a penny and a half to you?

I do live with meat eaters: I'm spending the winter with my parents.

And, although it's mildly hilarious to picture myself banning meat

from the house, since they're putting me up (or " putting up with me " )

for the next eight months that really wouldn't be fair!

Although, on the bright side: my mother (never a fast-food fan anyway)

has just finished _Fast Food Nation_, and is feeling more than usually

repelled by the meat industry, so vegetarian offerings are going over

particularly well now. Seriously, though, they're open to eating

most things (especially things someone else cooks!), so they're easy

to live with...and although I'm not a great (or wildly enthusiastic)

cook it's one thing I can do to repay their help right now. And it

kind of resolves the whole food issue, because it's rapidly becoming

" my " kitchen.

My boyfriend (whom I obviously am not living with right now) is a meat

eater...I don't object to that, but then: I'm not living with him. So

it's easy to be tolerant right now. To be honest, if I could break him

of his grab-something-horrid-on-the-way-to-work habit, I could live

with him cooking almost anything at home. <sigh>

For two cents I seem to have rambled at great length. Sorry.

~Carla

PS I don't smoke, if that's of any interest. Or live with smokers,

thank the gods.

 

, " Sheryl " <ssarndt> wrote:

>

> Welcome to the group!! Yes, you will note that at any given time

> there are several discussions going on. Please feel free to add

> your $.02 (or whatever currency you like) to the discussion! One of

> the more recent has been off-topic and about smoking and I believe

> that we have politely ENDED that conversation. I posted a question

> to the group some time ago about how vegetarians live with meat-

> eaters. Do you live with any meat-eaters? If you do, do you allow

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list, Carla. I am happy you have taken a

look through our extensive recipe files and found some

you liked. Feel free to share any of your own favorite

recipes with us here. We place all of the tried and true

ones into the files.

 

Hope you aren't too bewildered for too long. *lol*

Jump right on in and get to know us.

 

:::coffeemug salute:::

 

~ PT ~

 

Change is not a process for the impatient.

~ Barbara Reinhold

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, " grrl4Chris "

<journalfaery>

wrote:

> Hi, all. I just joined (last night), and I thought I should post an

> introduction. I'm Carla, 33, and have no idea what to say next...or

> who, in fact, I'm talking to. I've skimmed the last three days of

> posts, and there're a bewildering variety of people and

conversations

> going on. I'm sure all will become clear in time.

> Anyway, the cookie recipes in the files section look lovely...I'm

not

> much of a cook, but I bake well (I mean, I bake *other things*

well; I

> have never been baked), and like to ply family with cookies. A whole

> batch of assorted veggie cookies would be a fun project.

> Ta for now.

[Guest guest]

, " ~Janice~ "

<serenity1@m...> wrote:

> >For two cents I seem to have rambled at great length. >Sorry.

>

> Don't be sorry. Keep rambling away!! :-)

 

 

Yeah, all the rest of us do it!! AND, if we get out of hand,

someone will politely remind us to take it to the Feral OT list!!!

[Guest guest]

>For two cents I seem to have rambled at great length. >Sorry.

 

Don't be sorry. Keep rambling away!! :-)

 

 

~Janice~

Be your own cheerleader! Encourage yourself every step of the way!

 

Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.

-Eleanor Roosevelt-

 

" Do not blame others for making you mad. Anger is a choice. Choose wisely "

 

If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian.

~Paul McCartney ~

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I've been lurking for a little while and finally got the chance to

say a fond hello to all.

 

I believe someone was gathering stories, so here goes:

I was lucky enough to have a lovely hippy teacher when I was 7 who

gently broke vegetarianism and humanitarianism to a class of kids

who'd never encountered either before.

I'll admit I hadn't really considered the ramifications of what I'd

been eating until then though I'd never been able to walk past a

butchers shop unaffected.

 

My parents didn't take me seriously at first and did their very best

to thwart me (my father is Greek and even though all their best

ancient philosophers were vegetarians the reaction from them now

is " you don't eat meat? what's wrong with you?! " ).

I admit I did have a lapse but when I was 10 and able to cook for

myself I got fully back on track and have never looked back.

In a way I think part of my willpower has been due to the adversity.

 

It's taken some hard training but my mother at last understands the

principles! I've even almost managed to wean her off any products

that are tested on animals (almost) but the other side of my family

still believe that as long as I don't KNOW something has goat-fat in

it, it's alright to feed it to me.

I think most of you on this list are in America, if you think your

choices are limited there you want to try living in Europe! It's like

being constantly punished.

On a school trip to Spain, having been told I was vegetarian my host

tried feeding me first chicken, then a ham sandwich and eventually a

tin of sardines.

 

And living with non-veggies, I have developed a bit of a hang-up

about sharing any of my cooking pans with my parents though (yes,

hang head in shame I moved back home " temporarily " ) as just knowing

they've had meat or fish products on them makes me feel physically

sick.

Now I've read about the micro-particles I feel much more vindicated,

I thought I was just being paranoid picturing them festering on my

stuff. I have my own pans etc but it's difficult to keep my parents

away from them.

I did find an improvement however after I'd pointedly thrown out my

pans 3 times and finally bought the cheapest, nastiest replacements I

could find to make them less appealing.

On the plus side, I do most of the shopping for us all and I refuse

to buy meat so there isn't that much of it in the house most of the

time.

 

Glad to have found a group of people who " get it " ,

Alexia

 

You may be interested to hear that a slang name for a Sea Cucumber

is " Pr1ck of the Sea " because of their erm.....excretions, which to

be honest, is enough of a reason to avoid them in the sea, let alone

on land!

 

 

, " Sheryl " <ssarndt>

wrote:

>

> I posted a question

> to the group some time ago about how vegetarians live with meat-

> eaters. Do you live with any meat-eaters? If you do, do you allow

> meat in the house? If not, would you? I personally was having

some

> difficulty with this. I have not eaten meat in many years and

> currently live alone. I also do not currently have a relationship

> and was trying to decide if it would be fair of me, should I engage

> in a relationship with a meat-eater, to refuse to allow meat in the

> house in any shape or form. I have some friends who thought I was

> being unfair and that I should compromise and allow it. One of our

> members posted that it is akin to being a non-smoker and allowing

> people to smoke in your house. (I would NOT.) I've actually come

> to the conclusion that I have to stick to my guns on this one and

> find someone who shares my values and beliefs (or can at least

> respect them enough not to bring it into the house.) What do you

> think????

>

> sheryl in albuquerque

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list; loved your stories. I have heard

that " what's wrong with you " line many times before.

I guess some people assume you have given up the

eating of dead animals b/c you are ill or have some sort

of medical problem/condition. In many cases I think it

comforts them to keep us in some place where they

don't have to confront any guilt they might have over

their own dietary choice.

 

~ PT ~

 

True eloquence consists of saying all that should be said,

and that only.

~ Francois de La Rochefoucald

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, " tentaclesofdoom " <

tentaclesofdoom> wrote:

> Hi all,

> I've been lurking for a little while and finally got the chance to

> say a fond hello to all.

>

> I believe someone was gathering stories, so here goes:

> I was lucky enough to have a lovely hippy teacher when I was 7 who

> gently broke vegetarianism and humanitarianism to a class of kids

> who'd never encountered either before.

> I'll admit I hadn't really considered the ramifications of what I'd

> been eating until then though I'd never been able to walk past a

> butchers shop unaffected.

>

> My parents didn't take me seriously at first and did their very

best

> to thwart me (my father is Greek and even though all their best

> ancient philosophers were vegetarians the reaction from them now

> is " you don't eat meat? what's wrong with you?! " ).