Guest guest Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 BBC News Scientists highlight fish 'intelligence' Fish are socially intelligent creatures who do not deserve their reputation as the dim-wits of the animal kingdom, according to a group of leading scientists. Scientists say fish do not deserve their " dim-witted " reputation Rather than simply being instinct-driven, the group says fish are cunning, manipulative and even cultured. The three experts from the universities of Edinburgh, St Andrews and Leeds said there had been huge changes in science's understanding of the psychological and mental abilities of fish in the last few years. Writing in the journal Fish and Fisheries, biologists Calum Brown, Keven Laland and Jens Krause said fish were now seen as highly intelligent creatures. They said: " Gone (or at least obsolete) is the image of fish as drudging and dim-witted pea-brains, driven largely by 'instinct',' with what little behavioural flexibility they possess being severely hampered by an infamous 'three-second memory'. Behaviour patterns " Now, fish are regarded as steeped in social intelligence, pursuing Machiavellian strategies of manipulation, punishment and reconciliation, exhibiting stable cultural traditions, and co-operating to inspect predators and catch food. " Recent research had shown that fish recognised individual " shoal mates " , social prestige and even tracked relationships. Scientists had also observed them using tools, building complex nests and exhibiting long-term memories. The scientists added: " Although it may seem extraordinary to those comfortably used to pre-judging animal intelligence on the basis of brain volume, in some cognitive domains, fishes can even be favourably compared to non-human primates. " They said fish were the most ancient of the major vertebrate groups, giving them " ample time " to evolve complex, adaptable and diverse behaviour patterns that rivalled those of other vertebrates. " These developments warrant a re-appraisal of the behavioural flexibility of fishes, and highlight the need for a deeper understanding of the learning processes that underpin the newly recognised behavioural and social sophistication of this taxon, " said the scientists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Very interesting article. What I want to know is, why can't they stop biting those scraps of meat on a hook? *lol* Right now the salmon are on a run up the Rogue River, and I plan to go watch them. Amazing creatures. Huge! ~ feral ~ In failing circumstances no man can be relied on to keep his integrity. ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882) ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~> , " artichoke72x " < artichoke72x> wrote: > BBC News > > Scientists highlight fish 'intelligence' > Rather than simply being instinct-driven, the group > says fish are cunning, manipulative and even cultured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 hell it's hard to spot a hook in the murky waters, especially with pollution and what not. Back when i was a kid and used to " go fishing " I noticed that fish when caught would often try to steer the line towards seaweed. I never thought much of it at the time, but now I think it seems pretty damn clever. Some fish like bass seemed especially clever because they often try to jump out of the water and spit out the hook. Now I'm glad I was never that good at it because most of them got away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Our local river, The Rogue River, is not polluted nor is it murky (thankfully), but sadly many of our rivers are in this world. I asked a local salmon fisherman why they bite at the hooks as they seem so intent and focused on their fall run right now to return to spawning grounds. He told me I was correct, they aren't hungry and they aren't looking for food right now. He went on to explain that they will pretty much only bite at the hooks out of annoyance because they are in their way as they head upstream. So the easily annoyed salmon get caught I guess. Bummer. *sigh* ~ PT ~ In the realm of Nature there is nothing purposeless, trivial, or unnecessary. ~ Maimonides ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~> , " dave " <dave4sale> wrote: > hell it's hard to spot a hook in the murky waters, especially with > pollution and what not. Back when i was a kid and used to " go > fishing " I noticed that fish when caught would often try to steer the > line towards seaweed. I never thought much of it at the time, but now > I think it seems pretty damn clever. Some fish like bass seemed > especially clever because they often try to jump out of the water and > spit out the hook. Now I'm glad I was never that good at it because > most of them got away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Me too! *lmao* I am not very zen when I am PMS-ing. ~ PT ~ The silence of a man who loves to praise, is a censure sufficiently severe. ~ Charlotte Lennox, " The Female Quixote " ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~> , " ~Janice~ " <serenity1@m...> wrote: > >>>So the easily annoyed > salmon get caught I guess. Bummer. *sigh* > > It's a good thing I'm not a fish, I'd get caught for sure!! LOL > > ~Janice~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 >>>So the easily annoyed salmon get caught I guess. Bummer. *sigh* It's a good thing I'm not a fish, I'd get caught for sure!! LOL ~Janice~ Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says... " I'll try again tomorrow " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 <<<Me too! *lmao* I am not very zen when I am PMS-ing. I'm worse during that time. I have very little patience. LOL ~Janice~ Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says... " I'll try again tomorrow " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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