Guest guest Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 FYI sorry if this bothers you but to some eating eggs is accepted if in doubt please go to the recipe files and check the multiple recipes that do include eggs..what you may not accept others do ..that is what makes this list the great one it is the variety in views and thoughts..thanks for trying to " teach " me tho.. warm regards Niccii (who happens to eat eggs) , " Jamo " <jamo> wrote: > FYI > > It amazes me that people think eating eggs is considered vegetarian. Eggs > are chicken ovum and definitely not considered vegetarian. > > There are several egg replacers on the market that can be used as thickening > agents. > > Thanks! > > > - > " nicole Panos " <N1kolleta@h...> > > Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:05 PM > Eggplant Parmesan > > > * Exported from MasterCook * > > Eggplant Parmesan > > Recipe By : > Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00 > Categories : Casseroles Ragú > Vegetables > > Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method > -------- ------------ -------------------------------- > 2 cups Italian seasoned bread crumbs > 1 1/4 cups grated Parmesan cheese > 2 medium eggplants -- cut into 1/4 " slices > 4 eggs -- beaten > Olive or vegetable oil > 1 jar Ragú Chunky Gardenstyle Pasta Sauce > 1 1/2 cups shredded Mozzarella cheese (6 ounces) > > Preheat oven to 375 degrees F. > In a medium bowl, combine bread crumbs and 1/2 cup Parmesan cheese. > Dip each eggplant slice into egg, then into bread crumb mixture. In a > large skillet, brown eggplant in hot oil on both sides; drain on > paper towels. > Evenly spread 1 cup pasta sauce in a 13 × 9-inch baking dish. Overlap > eggplant slices over sauce. Top with remaining pasta sauce and 3/4 > cup Parmesan cheese. Bake, covered, 45 minutes. Uncover and sprinkle > with Mozzarella cheese. Bake 10 minutes, or until cheese melts. > > Serves 6-8. > > Source: > " Ragú " > S(Internet address): > " http://www.eat.com/index.html " > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - > > Per serving: 297 Calories (kcal); 12g Total Fat; (36% calories from > fat); 18g Protein; 29g Carbohydrate; 123mg Cholesterol; 1147mg Sodium > Food Exchanges: 1 1/2 Grain(Starch); 2 Lean Meat; 1 1/2 Vegetable; 0 > Fruit; 1 1/2 Fat; 0 Other Carbohydrates > > > Nutr. Assoc. : 4866 0 0 0 986 471 922 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 It amazes me that people think eating eggs is considered vegetarian. It is. Eating animals is not. Eggs are not animals unless they've been fertilized. ~Janice~ Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says... " I'll try again tomorrow " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 its not so much whether an egg is an animal or not, what matters is that it comes from an animal, or bird, and that bird might be diseased, which carries the disease on to the egg louise --- ~Janice~ <serenity1 wrote: > It amazes me that people think eating eggs is > considered > vegetarian. > > It is. Eating animals is not. Eggs are not animals > unless they've been fertilized. > > ~Janice~ > Courage doesn't always roar. > Sometimes courage is the > little voice at the end > of the day that says... > " I'll try again tomorrow " . > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Greetings Nicole, Didn't mean to start a controversy or offend anyone on the eggs issue. The reason for my input is that I studied and follow the Vaishnava religion (Hare Krishna/Hindu) and the eating of meat, fish or eggs is prohibited. All food prepared should be offered with prayers to Visnu/Krishna (God) for His enjoyment before we partake. Thus the food is considered spiritualized. Once offered the food is then considered " prasadam " or " mercy " as it has been blessed by the favorable glance of God. And Krsna in the Bhagavad Gita (the Bible of the Hindus) asks that only grains, vegetables and milk be offered to Him. Yes milk, even though it comes from an animal. It is considered the civilized way of getting animal protein because you don't have to kill the cow to get the milk. That is why the cow is sacred because it is like your mother who provides you milk (and fuel as in many rural areas of India the cow dung is dried and used for the cooking fire) I have see this first hand travelling while through India where you see cow dung flattened and stuck on the walls of the homes drying in the sun. The bull is also sacred because that's how the land is plowed and of course to impregnate the cow. ;-) Please don't think that I'm trying to use this group to preach a religion but just thought you may find the history of vegetenarianism interesting and educational. After all, it's been around for over 5000 years with it's roots in ancient civilization. Om Shanti (spiritual peace) PS Here's a link to a great cookbook put out by the Hare Krishna's called " A Higher Taste " : http://www.webcom.com/ara/col/books/VEG/ht/ And a link to other vegetarian/vegan websites: http://www.iskconseattle.com/en/public/Links.asp?id=recipes PPS FYI, Vaishnava cooking also does not use garlic or onions. (I grew up in an Italian family so I find this one particularly difficult since I love garlic and onions lol) They use aesfoetida or hing as a substitute. This can be readily found in Indian stores if you want to try it. Use sparingly. Enjoy! James -- nicole Panos <N1kolleta wrote: > FYI > > sorry if this bothers you but to some eating eggs is accepted if in > doubt please go to the recipe files and check the multiple recipes > that do include eggs..what you may not accept others do ..that is > what makes this list the great one it is the variety in views and > thoughts..thanks for trying to " teach " me tho.. > warm regards > Niccii > (who happens to eat eggs) > > > , " Jamo " <jamo> wrote: > > FYI > > > > It amazes me that people think eating eggs is considered > vegetarian. Eggs > > are chicken ovum and definitely not considered vegetarian. > > > > There are several egg replacers on the market that can be used as > thickening > > agents. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > - > > " nicole Panos " <N1kolleta@h...> > > > > Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:05 PM > > Eggplant Parmesan > > > > > > * Exported from MasterCook * > > > > Eggplant Parmesan > > > > Recipe By : > > Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00 > > Categories : Casseroles Ragú > > Vegetables > > > > Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method > > -------- ------------ -------------------------------- > > 2 cups Italian seasoned bread crumbs > > 1 1/4 cups grated Parmesan cheese > > 2 medium eggplants -- cut into 1/4 " slices > > 4 eggs -- beaten > > Olive or vegetable oil > > 1 jar Ragú Chunky Gardenstyle Pasta Sauce > > 1 1/2 cups shredded Mozzarella cheese (6 ounces) > > > > Preheat oven to 375 degrees F. > > In a medium bowl, combine bread crumbs and 1/2 cup Parmesan cheese. > > Dip each eggplant slice into egg, then into bread crumb mixture. In > a > > large skillet, brown eggplant in hot oil on both sides; drain on > > paper towels. > > Evenly spread 1 cup pasta sauce in a 13 × 9-inch baking dish. > Overlap > > eggplant slices over sauce. Top with remaining pasta sauce and 3/4 > > cup Parmesan cheese. Bake, covered, 45 minutes. Uncover and sprinkle > > with Mozzarella cheese. Bake 10 minutes, or until cheese melts. > > > > Serves 6-8. > > > > Source: > > " Ragú " > > S(Internet address): > > " http://www.eat.com/index.html " > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - > > - - > > > > Per serving: 297 Calories (kcal); 12g Total Fat; (36% calories from > > fat); 18g Protein; 29g Carbohydrate; 123mg Cholesterol; 1147mg > Sodium > > Food Exchanges: 1 1/2 Grain(Starch); 2 Lean Meat; 1 1/2 Vegetable; 0 > > Fruit; 1 1/2 Fat; 0 Other Carbohydrates > > > > > > Nutr. Assoc. : 4866 0 0 0 986 471 922 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 , Jamo <jamo> wrote: > Greetings Nicole, > > Didn't mean to start a controversy or offend anyone on the eggs issue. The reason for my input is > that I studied and follow the Vaishnava religion (Hare Krishna/Hindu) and the eating of meat, fish > or eggs is prohibited. There are different types of vegetarians. Some people don't eat eggs or meat because of the way the meat industry treats the animals. Some do it for health reasons and others for religious reasons. Not everyone is a religious vegetarian. I personally do not like eggs, though, like Dave will sometimes eat them in recipes, but I'm trying to get away from that too. It has never been about religion for me, but more for morals and ethics which may or may not be religious for some. Since the use of eggs does not KILL the animal (especially if the eggs are not fertilized) I would not have a problem considering them part of someone's vegetarian diet. We could debate the ethical implications of eating fertilized eggs. (That might open up another huge can of worms and probably bring us to an abortion debate.) Now, the way the egg industry treats the chickens who lay the eggs IS extremely cruel. By eating eggs, one is indirectly supporting the chicken-for-meat industry since some of the eggs will hatch and male chickens are almost useless to the egg industry and are sent off to be butchered. Read FAST FOOD NATION and THE FOOD REVOLUTION for more information written in a more concise fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Please don't get your fur up. I am thrilled that you are even on the path of trying. I am Just sharing my knowledge of vegetarianism since I've been doing it since the early 70's. It's all good. Peace. James - " ~Janice~ " <serenity1 Monday, September 15, 2003 10:16 AM Re: Re: Eggplant Parmesan...Jamo > >>>Eating eggs in your diet is called ovo-vegetarian or if you eat dairy & eggs, lacto-ovo-vegetarian. > > I know what the terms mean. I'm an almost vegan. But, I still consider people who consume eggs and dairy vegetarian. There's a lot of people who feel the same way I do, and we don't appreciate being told we're not vegetarians. > > > ~Janice~ > Courage doesn't always roar. > Sometimes courage is the > little voice at the end > of the day that says... > " I'll try again tomorrow " . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 >>>Eating eggs in your diet is called ovo-vegetarian or if you eat dairy & eggs, lacto-ovo-vegetarian. I know what the terms mean. I'm an almost vegan. But, I still consider people who consume eggs and dairy vegetarian. There's a lot of people who feel the same way I do, and we don't appreciate being told we're not vegetarians. ~Janice~ Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says... " I'll try again tomorrow " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 >>>Please don't get your fur up. I wasn't getting my fur up. I just wanted you to know how I feel. Sorry you took it that way. ~Janice~ Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says... " I'll try again tomorrow " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Thank you James for the Vaishnava perspective. It was very interesting. I have the book, Higher State, and was surprised that dairy was used. Now I understand. It's great to think of food as spiritualized before we eat. I like to do a similar offering to the kitchen Goddess. Somehow, the food seems more healthful when I make an offering. Donni - " Jamo " <jamo Monday, September 15, 2003 5:24 AM Re: Re: Eggplant Parmesan...Jamo > Greetings Nicole, > > Didn't mean to start a controversy or offend anyone on the eggs issue. The reason for my input is > that I studied and follow the Vaishnava religion (Hare Krishna/Hindu) and the eating of meat, fish > or eggs is prohibited. All food prepared should be offered with prayers to Visnu/Krishna (God) for > His enjoyment before we partake. Thus the food is considered spiritualized. Once offered the food > is then considered " prasadam " or " mercy " as it has been blessed by the favorable glance of God. > And Krsna in the Bhagavad Gita (the Bible of the Hindus) asks that only grains, vegetables and > milk be offered to Him. > > Yes milk, even though it comes from an animal. It is considered the civilized way of getting > animal protein because you don't have to kill the cow to get the milk. That is why the cow is > sacred because it is like your mother who provides you milk (and fuel as in many rural areas of > India the cow dung is dried and used for the cooking fire) I have see this first hand travelling > while through India where you see cow dung flattened and stuck on the walls of the homes drying in > the sun. The bull is also sacred because that's how the land is plowed and of course to impregnate > the cow. ;-) > > Please don't think that I'm trying to use this group to preach a religion but just thought you may > find the history of vegetenarianism interesting and educational. After all, it's been around for > over 5000 years with it's roots in ancient civilization. > > Om Shanti (spiritual peace) > > PS Here's a link to a great cookbook put out by the Hare Krishna's called " A Higher Taste " : > > http://www.webcom.com/ara/col/books/VEG/ht/ > > And a link to other vegetarian/vegan websites: > > http://www.iskconseattle.com/en/public/Links.asp?id=recipes > > PPS FYI, Vaishnava cooking also does not use garlic or onions. (I grew up in an Italian family so > I find this one particularly difficult since I love garlic and onions lol) They use aesfoetida or > hing as a substitute. This can be readily found in Indian stores if you want to try it. Use > sparingly. > > Enjoy! > > James > > -- nicole Panos <N1kolleta wrote: > > FYI > > > > sorry if this bothers you but to some eating eggs is accepted if in > > doubt please go to the recipe files and check the multiple recipes > > that do include eggs..what you may not accept others do ..that is > > what makes this list the great one it is the variety in views and > > thoughts..thanks for trying to " teach " me tho.. > > warm regards > > Niccii > > (who happens to eat eggs) > > > > > > , " Jamo " <jamo> wrote: > > > FYI > > > > > > It amazes me that people think eating eggs is considered > > vegetarian. Eggs > > > are chicken ovum and definitely not considered vegetarian. > > > > > > There are several egg replacers on the market that can be used as > > thickening > > > agents. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > - > > > " nicole Panos " <N1kolleta@h...> > > > > > > Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:05 PM > > > Eggplant Parmesan > > > > > > > > > * Exported from MasterCook * > > > > > > Eggplant Parmesan > > > > > > Recipe By : > > > Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00 > > > Categories : Casseroles Ragú > > > Vegetables > > > > > > Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method > > > -------- ------------ -------------------------------- > > > 2 cups Italian seasoned bread crumbs > > > 1 1/4 cups grated Parmesan cheese > > > 2 medium eggplants -- cut into 1/4 " slices > > > 4 eggs -- beaten > > > Olive or vegetable oil > > > 1 jar Ragú Chunky Gardenstyle Pasta Sauce > > > 1 1/2 cups shredded Mozzarella cheese (6 ounces) > > > > > > Preheat oven to 375 degrees F. > > > In a medium bowl, combine bread crumbs and 1/2 cup Parmesan cheese. > > > Dip each eggplant slice into egg, then into bread crumb mixture. In > > a > > > large skillet, brown eggplant in hot oil on both sides; drain on > > > paper towels. > > > Evenly spread 1 cup pasta sauce in a 13 × 9-inch baking dish. > > Overlap > > > eggplant slices over sauce. Top with remaining pasta sauce and 3/4 > > > cup Parmesan cheese. Bake, covered, 45 minutes. Uncover and sprinkle > > > with Mozzarella cheese. Bake 10 minutes, or until cheese melts. > > > > > > Serves 6-8. > > > > > > Source: > > > " Ragú " > > > S(Internet address): > > > " http://www.eat.com/index.html " > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > - > > > - - > > > > > > Per serving: 297 Calories (kcal); 12g Total Fat; (36% calories from > > > fat); 18g Protein; 29g Carbohydrate; 123mg Cholesterol; 1147mg > > Sodium > > > Food Exchanges: 1 1/2 Grain(Starch); 2 Lean Meat; 1 1/2 Vegetable; 0 > > > Fruit; 1 1/2 Fat; 0 Other Carbohydrates > > > > > > > > > Nutr. Assoc. : 4866 0 0 0 986 471 922 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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