Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Reducing carbohydrates in favor of proteins is not a healthy approach. Just because a doctor advises something does not make it worthwhile advice. I'd get a few other opinions, especially from people who haven't been trained by the medical establishment. On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 05:22 AM, (AT) (DOT) com wrote: > Message: 4 > Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:40:27 -0500 > " Paula Joseph Johnson " <welshaires > Re: Typical Misinformation > > Please expand on this comment of " very bad idea " . > > Thanks, > > Paula J. > - > > > Very bad idea. > > On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 05:54 AM, > (AT) (DOT) > com wrote: > >> -actually dr said to reduce carbs > Ignoring media is far more dangerous than media itself can ever be. > > > " Anyone who says Iraq has nuclear capability doesn't know what the hell he' s talking about. " Scott Ritter, Weapons Inspector, 11 Sep 2002, on TODAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 If I can jump into the ring ... While the bandwagon right now is to reduce carbs a la Atkins, that definitely puts a lot of stress on your kidneys and liver. And depending on what kind of proteins you're eating, you might be adding up the cholesteral too. It's important also to make sure your diet is tailored to your lifestyle. Carbs are your body's best source of fuel, so drastically reducing them is not always a great idea. Especially if you're active (cycling, running, etc.) The best bet is to pay attention to 1) your lifestyle 2) what your body craves 3) weight gain/loss (and your accompanying goals) and adjust your diet accordingly. But a diet high in fresh fruit/veg, complex fiber and lean protein is always a good bet. , The Stewarts <stews9@c...> wrote: > Reducing carbohydrates in favor of proteins is not a healthy approach. > Just because a doctor advises something does not make it worthwhile advice. > I'd get a few other opinions, especially from people who haven't been > trained by the medical establishment. > > On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 05:22 AM, (AT) (DOT) > com wrote: > > > Message: 4 > > Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:40:27 -0500 > > " Paula Joseph Johnson " <welshaires@q...> > > Re: Typical Misinformation > > > > Please expand on this comment of " very bad idea " . > > > > Thanks, > > > > Paula J. > > - > > > > > > Very bad idea. > > > > On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 05:54 AM, > > (AT) (DOT) > > com wrote: > > > >> -actually dr said to reduce carbs > > Ignoring media is far more dangerous than media itself can ever be. > > > > > > > " Anyone who says Iraq has nuclear capability doesn't know what the hell he' > s talking about. " > Scott Ritter, Weapons Inspector, 11 Sep 2002, on TODAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 > especially from people who haven't been > trained by the medical establishment. I agree - not so much because the doctors have been mis-trained, but because they are *un*trained in matters of nutrition. They carry the same prejudices as the rest of the world when it comes to nutrition. - the same wrong 'information' and therefore offer, from a position of authority, the same poor advice. (I am not arguing with the previous comment ;=), in full below, just reinforcing it.) Best, Pat > > Reducing carbohydrates in favor of proteins is not a healthy approach. > Just because a doctor advises something does not make it worthwhile advice. > I'd get a few other opinions, especially from people who haven't been > trained by the medical establishment. -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet " - Gandhi * " The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men " - Leonardo da Vinci ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 several years back I was talkin to my doctor and told her " well maybe I would lose weight better if I went back to eating meat since beans automatically have alot of carbs in them " and the thing she said is " carbs are not bad in fact you need carbs to live its the fat that is bad " so not all doctors are meatheads but most are lol stay cool, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Cool it is ;=) And good for your doc. But then she's a woman, right??? Best, Pat > > several years back I was talkin to my doctor and told her " well maybe > I would lose weight better if I went back to eating meat since beans > automatically have alot of carbs in them " and the thing she said > is " carbs are not bad in fact you need carbs to live its the fat that > is bad " so not all doctors are meatheads but most are lol stay cool, > Dave > -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet " - Gandhi * " The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men " - Leonardo da Vinci ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Limitations on any of the macronutrients (i.e., fat, protein, and carbs) are only necessary when one has a health concern complicated by foods of that particular group. A healthy body needs them all to remain healthy. The only question to meaningfully be debated is what combination of the three is necessary or optimal, and that's where all the disagreement is found. Generally speaking, beans are about half protein and half carbs, and depending on your diet concerns, this combination has both pluses and negatives. Dave [phantombluefan] Friday, October 03, 2003 9:13 PM Re: Expatiation several years back I was talkin to my doctor and told her " well maybe I would lose weight better if I went back to eating meat since beans automatically have alot of carbs in them " and the thing she said is " carbs are not bad in fact you need carbs to live its the fat that is bad " so not all doctors are meatheads but most are lol stay cool, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 I must agree.. also, doctors just aren't trained well in research methods. they frequently make errors that even someone who has had an elementary research methods class would find laughable. I occassionally have to read research from psychiatric journals. One study about omega 3's reducing effects on violence changed three variables in the experimental group (cognitive stimulation, exercise, and high fish diet) and then the researcher just claimed from these results that the majority of the reduction in violence was due to the fish, not the exercise or extra attention. it really irks me how MDs are treated like experts of mental health and nutrition when they get almost no training in these areas. this doesn't mean all doctors are incompetent, but to be competent would require them to read research outside of the medical field on their own time, and most doctors are far too busy raking in the money to do this. , Sant & Brown <santbrown@l...> wrote: > > especially from people who haven't been > > trained by the medical establishment. > > I agree - not so much because the doctors have been mis-trained, but > because they are *un*trained in matters of <A TITLE= " Click for more information about nutrition " They carry the > same prejudices as the rest of the world when it comes to nutrition. - > the same wrong 'information' and therefore offer, from a position of > authority, the same poor advice. (I am not arguing with the previous > comment ;=), in full below, just reinforcing it.) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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