Guest guest Posted November 3, 2002 Report Share Posted November 3, 2002 Hi I need a little help. I am on a strict diet from my doctor. No carrots No yams no sweet potatoes only summer squash no pumpkin no sugar no dairy no fruit no soy no beans no beats no nuts no seeds no fun. I am having a major sweet tooth anybody know a veggie that is sweet besides what I can't have?:-/ Nicole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 , " nickpelosi " <nickpelosi> wrote: > Hi I need a little help. I am on a strict diet from my doctor. No > carrots No yams no sweet potatoes only summer squash no pumpkin no > sugar no dairy no fruit no soy no beans no beats no nuts no seeds no > fun. I am having a major sweet tooth anybody know a veggie that is > sweet besides what I can't have?:-/ > Nicole Just curious what in the world kind of diet is this, :-/ and why your doctor prescribed it? If it's OK to ask... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 Nicole, Not being nosey- just trying better to figure it out, but is it a diet in regard to being diabetic? (Sounds like it with the sweet?) With kindness, Beth nickpelosi <nickpelosi wrote: Hi I need a little help. I am on a strict diet from my doctor. No carrots No yams no sweet potatoes only summer squash no pumpkin no sugar no dairy no fruit no soy no beans no beats no nuts no seeds no fun. I am having a major sweet tooth anybody know a veggie that is sweet besides what I can't have?:-/Nicolecontact owner: -owner Mail list: Delivered-mailing list List-Un: - no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowedcontact owner with complaints regarding posting/list or anything else. Thank you.please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 , " cheryll " <naturalist_44240> wrote: > , " nickpelosi " <nickpelosi> wrote: > > Hi I need a little help. I am on a strict diet from my doctor. No > > carrots No yams no sweet potatoes only summer squash no pumpkin no > > sugar no dairy no fruit no soy no beans no beats no nuts no seeds > no > > fun. I am having a major sweet tooth anybody know a veggie that is > > sweet besides what I can't have?:-/ > > Nicole > > Just curious what in the world kind of diet is this, :-/ and why your > doctor prescribed it? If it's OK to ask.. I have a disease of the bldder called Interstitial cystitis that is why I am on this diet I know it sounds strange but there is no cure out there so the only way I am able to feel better is to be on this diet.It you have any suggestions on veggies for me to try i would like that very much.Please don't try to understand why I am doing this it is just what I have to do. I will not be ristricted forever to these foods. When my body feels better I will be able to add things bact slowly to see what I am able to handle. It is a very complicated disease and the Doctors out here don't even realy know what they are doing everyone who has this disease is one big ginny pig. It is usualy to much for others to understand. I hope that I am able to discover new foods here. thank you nicole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 Hi Nicole, I was curious as it what type of foods specifically the doctor said you couldn't have so as to try and accommodate you with recipes geared for that. My mother just found out she has diabetes and I never dreamed of the stuff sugar is really in! I find it amazing how restricted she is (no breads, etc.) and have been having a time trying to find eatable recipes and food. With kindness, beth nickpelosi <nickpelosi wrote: , "cheryll" <naturalist_44240> wrote:> , "nickpelosi" <nickpelosi> wrote:> > Hi I need a little help. I am on a strict diet from my doctor. No > > carrots No yams no sweet potatoes only summer squash no pumpkin no > > sugar no dairy no fruit no soy no beans no beats no nuts no seeds > no > > fun. I am having a major sweet tooth anybody know a veggie that is > > sweet besides what I can't have?:-/> > Nicole> > Just curious what in the world kind of diet is this, :-/ and why your > doctor prescribed it? If it's OK to ask..I have a disease of the bldder called Interstitial cystitis that is why I am on this diet I know it sounds strange but there is no cure out there so the only way I am able to feel better is to be on this HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 , Beth Skeen <boomothergoose> wrote: > > Hi Nicole, > I was curious as it what type of foods specifically the doctor said you couldn't have so as to try and accommodate you with recipes geared for that. My mother just found out she has diabetes and I never dreamed of the stuff sugar is really in! I find it amazing how restricted she is (no breads, etc.) and have been having a time trying to find eatable recipes and food. > With kindness, > beth > nickpelosi <nickpelosi> wrote: --- In , " cheryll " <naturalist_44240> wrote: > > , " nickpelosi " <nickpelosi> wrote: > > > Hi I need a little help. I am on a strict diet from my doctor. No > > > carrots No yams no sweet potatoes only summer squash no pumpkin > no > > > sugar no dairy no fruit no soy no beans no beats no nuts no seeds > > no > > > fun. I am having a major sweet tooth anybody know a veggie that > is > > > sweet besides what I can't have?:-/ > > > Nicole > > > > Just curious what in the world kind of diet is this, :-/ and why > your > > doctor prescribed it? If it's OK to ask.. > > I have a disease of the bldder called Interstitial cystitis that is > why I am on this diet I know it sounds strange but there is no cure > out there so the only way I am able to feel better is to be on this > > thank you for your concern here is the list. It is extreamy hard and I am sorry for your mothers illness. part of the process involves following a very strict diet for a period of time. The diet serves to cleanse the body, primarily of yeast and various bacteria and also to eliminate any food which will aggravate the symptoms. While the bladder is so raw, that is almost everything. The diet recommended by Western doctors is nowhere near comprehensive enough. So many things are allowed that are still going to irritate the bladder. The more you remove the less irritated the bladder will be. This is not, of course a weight loss diet but with the limitations you lose weight. Not so good for the more svelte people. It is a very difficult diet, but, as we have often said, this is not an easy process. There is no way around it, but it is not forever. I can eventually add foods back until I can eat almost anything. Most fresh meats (including pork and veal), fish, fowl Many vegetables Bread, preferably yeast free (spelt/kamut available at www.pacificbakery.com) Butter, olive oil (not extra virgin), vegetable oil, canola oil Eggs Potatoes (small amount per meal) Rice (preferably brown, small amount per meal) Water, preferably spring, low minerals (you can drink sparkling water) Salad dressing should be olive oil, dill, garlic powder (pure), basil Spinach Squash (green or yellow only) salt, usually fine in most people (use either sea salt or dextrose- free salt) Pepper Garlic, usually fine in most people Herbs one at a time to see if any bother you (however absolutely no ginger, cinnamon, wasabi, nutmeg, cardamom, or any other strong, hot or pungent herb) Parsley is a diuretic (be careful) Provolone, mozzarella, munchee and other white mild cheeses.one slice a day Muenster (with care) Green tea, not decaf (this on an individual basis) Nothing in a package, bottle or can. You need to read the ingredients. You will find that most all of them have additives, preservatives, sugar, etc. etc. This includes things like ketchup, mustard, vinegar, sauces, msg. No legumes, including beans, green beans, peas, chickpeas, lentils, etc. No mint No seeds or oils from seeds No nuts or oils from nuts No pickles No corn No oats No margarine No yogurt No cottage cheese, cream cheese, ricotta or aged cheeses No soy, or soy products No tofu No milk or milk products No bacon, sausage, ham, etc. i.e. nothing cured No tomatoes No mushrooms No fruit No bagels or croissants No cinnamon, ginger or spicy spices No yams or sweet potatoes No beets No sugar or products containing sugar, or natural or artificial sugar substitutes, basically nothing that tastes sweet No fruit, or juices No chocolate No alcohol No herb teas No gum If you do not know what is in something err on the side of caution Since everything you put on your skin goes into your system you will need to avoid the following: Herbal lotions Topical skin anti-fungals or cortisone, Neosporin or other topical antibiotics Cortisone eye drops Steroid-based medications Antibiotics Sleeping products Vitamins, herbs not prescribed by Matia, or supplements Limit hair dyeing or bleaching, it can exacerbate symptoms. If you must dye your hair try Natural Instincts. You can also try henna (which does not work too well). If you must take something for pain not related to IC don't take aspirin, try Tylenol For soap try Dove or Ivory. Phisoderm is good too for those of you who are extra sensitive. Do not use lubricated condoms. Find non lubricated and use olive oil or jojoba oil. Avoid any perfume and perfumed products, lotions or soaps. Jojoba oil or olive oil (cheaper) are great moisturizers and scalp and hair conditioners. EATING OUT Don't drive yourself nuts but these are things to watch for and ask carefully for them to avoid. It is not as daunting as you think. Stick with plain bread. Make sure there are no sesame seeds, etc. on it. Get plain meats, chicken (where you can remove the skin if you don’t know what is on it) or fish and make sure they have not been marinated. Mashed potatoes usually contain cream, try and avoid them. A baked potato with olive oil (not extra virgin) or butter is good, as is plain rice. Make sure in the early stages that your dish has not been cooked in wine, that is a common one. Tell them to make the dish as plain as possible. Make sure if you order fries, they are not cooked in nut oil. Vegetable oils are safe. POST TREATMENT DIET (excerpt from a note from Matia addressing some concerns about the post IC diet as it relates to sugars) There are a few basic guidelines that I consider important for ALL people, NOT just ICers. It is my opinion that alcohol is VERY unhealthy for your system. It destroys your liver cells! Why would anyone want to do that? It ages you, it dries you up and puts wrinkles on your face. Why would anyone want to do that? Because something is socially acceptable does not imply that it is ok. Be smart! Yes, you CAN drink after having gone through this program, but ask yourself this: " don't I want to do everything in my power to keep my body working at 100% efficiency? " This goes for sugar too. Yes, of course you can have sugar. However, it has to be in moderation. If you eat sugar in excess, you are going to flip the odds against your immune system and encourage the re- growth of yeast and bacteria. So, like all things in life, a part of this process is learning to exercise moderation. The middle path is the way to go! Lastly, there have been many concerns about fruits and fruit juices. Fruits can be reintegrated SLOWLY back into the post IC regimen. Eventually all fruits will be tolerated unless there is of course an allergy to that fruit. However, fruits should never be eaten to replace a meal and should always be eaten in moderation. This goes for post ICers and, well, everyone. Eating fruit for a snack or a dessert, even everyday, is healthy. Eating fruit or many fruits in place of a well-balanced meal of protein, veggies, and starch is not healthy. The reason is because your blood sugar and insulin levels must be regulated by proper diet. These levels are dependent upon proper nutrition to support them. Eating fruit alone in place of a meal will send the sugar up too high and then, in response, a great amount of insulin will be released to rescue you which will make you feel tired and lousy. If this process is done repeatedly you will have successfully interrupted your body's sugar and insulin balance and it will eventually effect your entire body including your metabolism, endocrine system and bacterial balance. Fruit juices require more fruit than any person could eat in one sitting to produce one glass of juice. One should never eat more than one piece of fruit's juice. Your body will go into sugar overload and then you will have the whole insulin response again. You will get tired, headachy, depressed, and often anxious or overwhelmed. Daily trips to the juice factory in place of a meal will eventually reduce your body's metabolism to a fat producing plant and you will feel in very poor health. Remember, the point is to replace those bad old habits that played a part in leading up to your unhealthy condition with new habits that will support and promote your continued good health! > > > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 Nicole, I see...a "cleansing" type process. All I can say is...BLESS YOUR HEART! I have been following Dr. Weil's 8-week program and I have been able to dramatically change a lot of my eating habits except one that he highly reccomends...fasting for a few days! I just can't seem to find the disapline to do it although I KNOW it be extremely beneficial! (I am also about 30 pounds over weight which is already a pretty good indicator that I have NO discipline when it comes to food!) I also decided to recently change to a more holistic doctor to address my extreme high blood pressure problems (Thought I would try something different than just pushing pills down my throat rather than addressing the initial problem!) and he also recommended a "flushing of the system" but just could not seem to do it. I am hoping that once I get some more issues down pat (Trying to completely illuminate hydrogenated oils, processed foods, etc.) that I would think about tackling that. Anyway- I will try and track down some recipes for you. I LOVE squash so I know I have several of those- but will have to see if they would have any other ingredient that you could not have. Will pilfer through some books in the next day or so. Perhaps someone else will also have some reccomendations. I am all for you cheering you on and hope you get the results you aspire for. With kindness, beth nickpelosi <nickpelosi wrote: , Beth Skeen <boomothergoose> wrote:> > Hi Nicole, > I was curious as it what type of foods specifically the doctor said you couldn't have so as to try and accommodate you with recipes geared for that. My mother just found out she has diabetes and I never dreamed of the stuff sugar is really in! I find it amazing how restricted she is (no breads, etc.) and have been having a time trying to find eatable recipes and food. > With kindness, > beth > nickpelosi <nickpelosi> wrote: , "cheryll" <naturalist_44240> wrote:> > , "nickpelosi" <nickpelosi> wrote:> > > Hi I need a little help. I am on a strict diet from my doctor. No > > > carrots No yams no sweet potatoes only summer squash no pumpkin > no > > > sugar no dairy no fruit no soy no beans no beats no nuts no seeds > > no > > > fun. I am having a major sweet tooth anybody know a veggie that > is > > > sweet besides what I can't have?:-/> > > Nicole> > > > Just curious what in the world kind of diet is this, :-/ and why > your > > doctor prescribed it? If it's OK to ask..> > I have a disease of the bldder called Interstitial cystitis that is > why I am on this diet I know it sounds strange but there is no cure > out there so the only way I am able to feel better is to be on this> > thank you for your concern here is the list. It is extreamy hard and I am sorry for your mothers illness. part of the process involves following a very strict diet for a period of time. HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 , Beth Skeen <boomothergoose> wrote: > > Nicole, > I see...a " cleansing " type process. All I can say is...BLESS YOUR HEART! I have been following Dr. Weil's 8-week program and I have been able to dramatically change a lot of my eating habits except one that he highly reccomends...fasting for a few days! I just can't seem to find the disapline to do it although I KNOW it be extremely beneficial! (I am also about 30 pounds over weight which is already a pretty good indicator that I have NO discipline when it comes to food!) > I also decided to recently change to a more holistic doctor to address my extreme high blood pressure problems (Thought I would try something different than just pushing pills down my throat rather than addressing the initial problem!) and he also recommended a " flushing of the system " but just could not seem to do it. I am hoping that once I get some more issues down pat (Trying to completely illuminate hydrogenated oils, processed foods, etc.) that I would think about tackling that. > Anyway- I will try and track down some recipes for you. I LOVE squash so I know I have several of those- but will have to see if they would have any other ingredient that you could not have. > Will pilfer through some books in the next day or so. Perhaps someone else will also have some reccomendations. > I am all for you cheering you on and hope you get the results you aspire for. > With kindness, > beth > > nickpelosi <nickpelosi> wrote: , Beth Skeen <boomothergoose> wrote: > > > > Hi Nicole, > > I was curious as it what type of foods specifically the doctor said > you couldn't have so as to try and accommodate you with recipes > geared for that. My mother just found out she has diabetes and I > never dreamed of the stuff sugar is really in! I find it amazing how > restricted she is (no breads, etc.) and have been having a time > trying to find eatable recipes and food. > > With kindness, > > beth > > nickpelosi <nickpelosi> wrote: --- In > , " cheryll " <naturalist_44240> wrote: > > > , " nickpelosi " <nickpelosi> > wrote: > > > > Hi I need a little help. I am on a strict diet from my doctor. > No > > > > carrots No yams no sweet potatoes only summer squash no pumpkin > > no > > > > sugar no dairy no fruit no soy no beans no beats no nuts no > seeds > > > no > > > > fun. I am having a major sweet tooth anybody know a veggie that > > is > > > > sweet besides what I can't have?:-/ > > > > Nicole > > > > > > Just curious what in the world kind of diet is this, :-/ and why > > your > > > doctor prescribed it? If it's OK to ask.. > > > > I have a disease of the bldder called Interstitial cystitis that is > > why I am on this diet I know it sounds strange but there is no cure > > out there so the only way I am able to feel better is to be on this > > > > thank you for your concern here is the list. It is extreamy hard > and I am sorry for your mothers illness. part of the process involves > following a very strict diet for a period of time. > > Thank You Beth for you help and concern. I too am overweight 20lbs but it is a side effect of this disease.Do you exersize? You could loose alot of that weight just from serious exersize. I have lost 40 lbs. I weigh 140 and 5 ft so I still need to loose the other 20 but I am sure with this diet I will have no problem. It is hard .The fruit is the hardest part for me. I wish you the best with getting your blood pressure down.Nicole > > > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 , " nickpelosi " <nickpelosi> wrote: > , " cheryll " <naturalist_44240> wrote: > > , " nickpelosi " <nickpelosi> wrote: > > > Hi I need a little help. I am on a strict diet from my doctor. No > > > carrots No yams no sweet potatoes only summer squash no pumpkin > no > > > sugar no dairy no fruit no soy no beans no beats no nuts no seeds > > no > > > fun. I am having a major sweet tooth anybody know a veggie that > is > > > sweet besides what I can't have?:-/ > > > Nicole > > Thanks for explaining, Nicole. I was just trying to figure out if it was a diabetic diet or what. How about baby carrots, or baby peas? With a little margarine (whatever kind you're allowed to have) Usually they're very sweet. Are you allowed to have anything made with sugar substitutes? Stevia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 , " cheryll " <naturalist_44240> wrote: > , " nickpelosi " <nickpelosi> wrote: > > , " cheryll " <naturalist_44240> > wrote: > > > , " nickpelosi " <nickpelosi> > wrote: > > > > Hi I need a little help. I am on a strict diet from my doctor. > No > > > > carrots No yams no sweet potatoes only summer squash no pumpkin > > no > > > > sugar no dairy no fruit no soy no beans no beats no nuts no > seeds > > > no > > > > fun. I am having a major sweet tooth anybody know a veggie that > > is > > > > sweet besides what I can't have?:-/ > > > > Nicole > > > > > > Thanks for explaining, Nicole. I was just trying to figure out if it > was a diabetic diet or what. How about baby carrots, or baby peas? > With a little margarine (whatever kind you're allowed to have) > Usually they're very sweet. > > Are you allowed to have anything made with sugar substitutes? Stevia?I am not allowed to have any sugar substitutes. Carrots are added in later. I have only been doing this for 3 weeks My Dr. explained that I am craving these things because I am getting rid of all the yeast in my body so my body wants more.If you could think of the less obvious ones.I am new to this veggie thing. Thanks Nicole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 Nicole, I use rice syrup, barley malt, blackstrap molasses, and maple for sweeteners but was wondering if " rutabaga " is one that you can eat? Thought of it after posts in worldvegs since I was asking about what people carve for festive lanterns in the UK " swedes " as they're called there. ;]David " nickpelosi " <nickpelosi> > wrote: > > > > Hi I need a little help. I am on a strict diet from my doctor. > No > > > > carrots No yams no sweet potatoes only summer squash no pumpkin > > no > > > > sugar no dairy no fruit no soy no beans no beats no nuts no > seeds > > > no > > > > fun. I am having a major sweet tooth anybody know a veggie that > > is > > > > sweet besides what I can't have?:-/ > > > > Nicole > > > > > > Thanks for explaining, Nicole. I was just trying to figure out if it > was a diabetic diet or what. How about baby carrots, or baby peas? > With a little margarine (whatever kind you're allowed to have) > Usually they're very sweet. > > Are you allowed to have anything made with sugar substitutes? Stevia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002 I don't know what is it I wil ask my Dr. thanks Nicole , " david " <starcollage> wrote: > Nicole, I use rice syrup, barley malt, blackstrap molasses, and maple > for sweeteners but was wondering if " rutabaga " is one that you can > eat? Thought of it after posts in worldvegs since I was asking about > what people carve for festive lanterns in the UK " swedes " as they're > called there. ;]David > > " nickpelosi " <nickpelosi> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi I need a little help. I am on a strict diet from my > doctor. > > No > > > > > carrots No yams no sweet potatoes only summer squash no > pumpkin > > > no > > > > > sugar no dairy no fruit no soy no beans no beats no nuts no > > seeds > > > > no > > > > > fun. I am having a major sweet tooth anybody know a veggie > that > > > is > > > > > sweet besides what I can't have?:-/ > > > > > Nicole > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for explaining, Nicole. I was just trying to figure out if > it > > was a diabetic diet or what. How about baby carrots, or baby > peas? > > With a little margarine (whatever kind you're allowed to have) > > Usually they're very sweet. > > > > Are you allowed to have anything made with sugar substitutes? > Stevia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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