Why are you Vegetarian?

January 14, 2003

I boycott Nestle and have been for a couple of years.

I do not buy anything Carnation or Nestle. That's

what I mean about everyone doing THEIR part. Get your

chip off your shoulder, stop whining and do something

if you're so freaking angry. Start somewhere and go

forward, don't expect everyone else to. Set an

example and hope others will follow.

And yes I do think everyone is responsible for

themselves. That's what makes me an independent FREE

thinker.

Waa, waa, waa, booooooo-hoooooo!

Okay, enough already...Let's talk about food. I'm

eating a gigantic spinach salad with apples, celery,

carrots, grapes, fake bacon bits, romano cheese, low

fat ranch and 1 hard boiled egg. Oooh, it's

good...And too much! I'm not even half way through

and I'm stuffed. I think I'll go sit my selfish,

white, American butt down and play with my selfish

American children.

Warmly,

Allison

--- Pinky Sweety <dublin_pussy wrote:

>

> What I wrote about the Americans is NOT COMPLETELY

> UNTRUE!!! Weapons are illegal in Ireland and the

> American Miltary are refueling their planes which

> contain weapons of mass destruction in Ireland. We

> are not running to the " Super Country " , we don't

> want your Military refueling in our land. That is a

> fact!!!!

> Second, there is no " southern ireland " as such. I

> live in " eastern ireland " , which is in the " Republic

> of Ireland " . Southern Ireland means Cork and Kerry,

> but as we know there is also a West and East to

> Ireland as well (and north, not forgetting Donegal).

>

> What you said about Ireland is completely untrue!!!

> There is peace between Republic and Northern Ireland

> (we never fought with each other). You need to get

> your facts, history and geography right, just like

> George Bush needs to. There is however some trouble

> in Belfast, between the Catholics and Protestants

> (Irish and British (so not the Republic)). But no

> more than what goes on in Glasgow, Scotland.(or what

> gangs in LA would do, which is prob worse with all

> these drive by shootings). It's just Ireland is

> so... small and there is not much news, whereas if

> you were in America, you wouldn't even hear about

> people going missing or murdered.

> Yes, in Belfast, you might have teenagers running

> around burning cars, but that could never be

> compared to the scale of wars that America does. Not

> forgetting, that our Governments don't choose to

> have a war with each other, the British and Irish

> Governments work by political means.

> To say that you look after your own and no other

> country is your responsibility is so... selfish.

> These countries in Africa, are that way, because of

> Gobal Companies such as Nestle sue-ing the country

> and Gobal Debts. Thank god, people in Ireland have

> good faith and try and help. Maybe its due to the

> fact that we once had a famine in Ireland in 1845,

> but $1,000,000 (a lot in those days) was given to us

> by the RED INDIANS. We in Ireland , believe we

> should help these people, as you never know when you

> might need help, also it is a good deed (was Band

> Aid a waste of time, by a great Irish man, Bob

> Geldof). At least homeless people in America and

> Ireland have shelters to go to, and there are a lot

> of good work already, but these people in other

> countries have completely nothing.

> We don't want to run to America for help!!!! All we

> want to do, is for American people to stop thinking

> they are so high and mighty and this Super

> Country!!! Because you are not. We are all human

> beings and living creatures, just like animals.

> Nobody in the world should be murdered. Nobody

> should spend millions on weapons and the development

> of weapons (which America does), they should invest

> their money in other resources.

> Disgusted Irish person

>

> Stephanie Taulbee <stephanietaulbee

> wrote:

> Hi there! I'm usually not a debater, but I thought

> what you wrote about Americans is completely untrue.

> I completely and entire respect your thoughts and

> I'm not attacking your views. But like one person

> said, not all of us agree with what our politicians

> come up with.

> My arguement is though, and I say this with respect

> to your country, hasn't Northern Ireland been acting

> the same way towards Southern Ireland for years now.

> What I mean is you were talking about war and

> weapons and Northern Ireland has been in the news

> for as long as I can remember with these issues.

> My husband and I went to Ireland in June of 1998 for

> our honeymoon. It is absolutely beautiful there,

> but I was scared to death of getting caught in the

> middle of some kind of action.

> And as for spending money on things like this, if

> you would look a little deeper into what America

> spends it's money on you would find out that we have

> millions of homeless shelters, food pantries and

> help for those less fortunate. America can't save

> everyone and I'm tired of people thinking that just

> because we are " Americans " that we do have some kind

> of supernatural powers that we can fix everything.

> If other countries would do all we have for each

> other then yes there would be peace and harmony

> always. But we all know that is not practical. So

> yes I can understand your thinking that we spend too

> much money on war and weapons and I agree with you,

> but with everyone thinking we are a " Super Country "

> we almost have to. We are the ones people run to

> when they need help.

> I'm sorry if I offended you in any way, but that's

> my opinion.

> Stephanie

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January 15, 2003

We don't want your Military refueling in our land. That is a fact!!!!

>Obviously your country's leadership has a different opinion than you do or they would not have grated permission for our planes to have landed in your country. Perhaps you should direct your anger and hostility toward your own government.

You need to get your facts, history and geography right, just like George Bush needs to. >You don't exactly have your facts straight about our country either, so perhaps you could follow your own advice, or perhaps state your comments on a list where people wish to have political debate. This list, unless I am completely mistaken, is called the "Quick Vegetarian" for a reason.

All we want to do, is for American people to stop thinking they are so high and mighty and this Super Country!!! Because you are not. >When other countries stop running to us asking us to solve their problems for them and expecting handouts, even though they continue to act in a hostile manner towards us, then we will be able to stop being the super country you accuse us of being. And on the flip side of that, if we stopped handing out cash, loans, food aid, etc to other countries, you would probably be the first person to step up and complain that we were not doing our share.

I am proud of the country I live in and do my best to be a good neighbor and patriotic citizen. I am so sorry that our very presence in the world offends you, but I am also well past the point in my life where I feel the need to defend myself or beliefs to anyone.

Sheila in Phoenix

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January 15, 2003

Right on Sheila! I'm delurking here to applaud your posts! This

is not a political list. It's a vegetarian list. And I too, am very proud

of our country, our wonderful President, our troops and support

the War on Terror! Kindly take the anit American comments elsewhere. Isn't there a moderator to this group? Where are they?