Guest guest Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 At 18:38 31/08/03 +0000, you wrote: >I have even had many well meaning people suggest that I just pull out the >meat from whatever and eat it. Hmm. That wouldn't be vegetarian either. Yes, exactly! Want to tell my 20 yo son's army base this? They offer a " vegetarian " alternative main dish--a fake meat, which they cook...in *meat fat*!! He has tried all kinds of approaches to get a *real* vegetarian meal, so far (over a year) with no luck. :-( He has even been told that he has anemia (I am dubious), but the doctors refuse to give him a " prescription " for food!! Brandel in Jerusalem ....reporting live from the war zone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 , " Brandel D. Falk " <ImaBDF@i...> wrote: > At 18:38 31/08/03 +0000, you wrote: > >I have even had many well meaning people suggest that I just pull out the > >meat from whatever and eat it. Hmm. That wouldn't be vegetarian either. > > Yes, exactly! Want to tell my 20 yo son's army base this? They > offer a " vegetarian " alternative main dish--a fake meat, which they > cook...in *meat fat*!! He has tried all kinds of approaches to get a > *real* vegetarian meal, so far (over a year) with no luck. :-( He has > even been told that he has anemia (I am dubious), but the doctors refuse to > give him a " prescription " for food!! > > Brandel in Jerusalem > > ...reporting live from the war zone... Brandel, When my husband and his brothers were in the army (that goes back aways) they used to get " care packages " from home filled with good food. My husband and one of his brothers made it through the Commmandoes courses on that food. Just send him dried fruits and nuts, nutrition bars from the health food store, whatever yourself. Doreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 There has been some discussion lately about what is 'meat' to different people. Some of the frictions between vegetarians and others may be eased by clarifying the definition of what is meant by the word 'meat'. meat [from the American Heritage dictionary] 1. The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry. 2. The edible part, as of a piece of fruit or a nut. 3. The essence, substance, or gist: the meat of the editorial. 4. Slang. Something that one enjoys or excels in; a forte: Tennis is his meat. 5. Nourishment; food: “Love is not all: it is not meat nor drink” (Edna St. Vincent Millay). --attributive. Often used to modify another noun: meat products; a meat market. [Middle English mete, from Old English, food.] Originally the English word " meat " meant " food " , any food. In Shakespeare's time when the Bible was translated into English, meat or food is first defined as coming from the Plant Kingdom. And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Genesis 1:29 Although there may be differences in the nutritional value [or possible harm] from muscle tissue and organs of mammals, birds and fish, to vegetarians who base their diet on moral, ethical, or religious grounds, there seems to be a consensus that 'meat' includes any living thing from what scientists classify as a member of the Animal Kingdom. Some vegetarians have humorous descriptions of what they won't eat: " I won't eat anything with a face, " or " I won't eat anything that tries to get away. " But, there are some animals without faces or the ability to move much, like oysters and clams. People who become vegetarians for health or other reasons, may have entirely different ways of defining what is 'meat' or of differentiating one kind of meat from another. Everyone draws a line between what can be eaten and what can't. Vegetarians may draw the line to exclude any food that involves the death of an animal. Vegans may draw the line to exclude any food that involves any harm to any animal, including insects. Some may draw their line to exclude food that involves the death on an entire plant organism and may only eat fruit that can be harvested without harming the plant. Wherever we draw our line, we try to be consistent, but it isn't always easy. In order for any organism to live some other organism must almost certainly die. As moral, ethical people we try to minimize the path of destruction we leave behind us. -- Be of good cheer. Dick Ford www.dick-ford.com Be kind. Be good. Be true. Be pure. Be just. Be fair. Be nice. Be meek. Be calm. Be glad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Well written sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 PhilLand Thanks. -- Dick Ford www.dick-ford.com Be kind. Be good. Be true. Be pure. Be just. Be fair. Be nice. Be meek. Be glad. Be free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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