Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Whenever you eat out at any restaurant you take a big chance of your food being cooked on the same grill/pans, etc. *contaminated* by any and all flesh food. If I were a die hard Vegan I would never eat out unless the restaurant was Vegetarian/Vegan. I hope for the best, but on one occasion at a local restaurant, on my plate ,I discovered a piece of raw sausage. I was so upset I started crying. Even if I wasn't a Vegetarian I would have been upset about finding raw pork on my plate. The manager was very kind and assured me that it would never happen again. On another occasion I ordered soup and asked before ordering if the soup had a vegetarian base and was told it did. As soon as I tasted the soup I detected the taste of clams. The waiter stated that he thought clams were ok for a Vegetarian and not considered meat. Another thing, you have no idea what kind of oil is being used for cooking your food or what is in the salad dressing that you are being served. Hard decision to make whether or not to eat out. I seldom do it. Only on special occasions. Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 When I eat out, I eat vegan. I eat soups that explicitly state their ingredients, avoid dairy wherever it may lurk and when in doubt, I ask the ingredients in the sauces on veggie wraps. On 1/9/06, genny_y2k <genny_y2k wrote: > > Whenever you eat out at any restaurant you take a big chance of your > food being cooked on the same grill/pans, etc. *contaminated* by any > and all flesh food. If I were a die hard Vegan I would never eat out > unless the restaurant was Vegetarian/Vegan. I hope for the best, but on > one occasion at a local restaurant, on my plate ,I discovered a piece > of raw sausage. I was so upset I started crying. Even if I wasn't a > Vegetarian I would have been upset about finding raw pork on my plate. > The manager was very kind and assured me that it would never happen > again. On another occasion I ordered soup and asked before ordering if > the soup had a vegetarian base and was told it did. As soon as I tasted > the soup I detected the taste of clams. The waiter stated that he > thought clams were ok for a Vegetarian and not considered meat. Another > thing, you have no idea what kind of oil is being used for cooking your > food or what is in the salad dressing that you are being served. Hard > decision to make whether or not to eat out. > I seldom do it. Only on special occasions. > Deanna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Deanna, you are right on in your statement here, and this is why we no longer eat out much at *all*. You just don't know for sure. Thanks for putting it so well and clearly. Bron On 1/9/06, genny_y2k <genny_y2k wrote: > > Whenever you eat out at any restaurant you take a big chance of your > food being cooked on the same grill/pans, etc. *contaminated* by any > and all flesh food. If I were a die hard Vegan I would never eat out > unless the restaurant was Vegetarian/Vegan. I hope for the best, but on > one occasion at a local restaurant, on my plate ,I discovered a piece > of raw sausage. I was so upset I started crying. Even if I wasn't a > Vegetarian I would have been upset about finding raw pork on my plate. > The manager was very kind and assured me that it would never happen > again. On another occasion I ordered soup and asked before ordering if > the soup had a vegetarian base and was told it did. As soon as I tasted > the soup I detected the taste of clams. The waiter stated that he > thought clams were ok for a Vegetarian and not considered meat. Another > thing, you have no idea what kind of oil is being used for cooking your > food or what is in the salad dressing that you are being served. Hard > decision to make whether or not to eat out. > I seldom do it. Only on special occasions. > Deanna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 P.S. My sincere condolences on finding that piece of raw sausage <shudders> on your plate!!! Bron On 1/10/06, southernflower <southernflower wrote: > > Deanna, you are right on in your statement here, and this is why we no > longer eat out much at *all*. You just don't know for sure. Thanks for > putting it so well and clearly. > Bron > > > On 1/9/06, genny_y2k <genny_y2k wrote: > > > > Whenever you eat out at any restaurant you take a big chance of your > > food being cooked on the same grill/pans, etc. *contaminated* by any > > and all flesh food. If I were a die hard Vegan I would never eat out > > unless the restaurant was Vegetarian/Vegan. I hope for the best, but on > > one occasion at a local restaurant, on my plate ,I discovered a piece > > of raw sausage. I was so upset I started crying. Even if I wasn't a > > Vegetarian I would have been upset about finding raw pork on my plate. > > The manager was very kind and assured me that it would never happen > > again. On another occasion I ordered soup and asked before ordering if > > the soup had a vegetarian base and was told it did. As soon as I tasted > > the soup I detected the taste of clams. The waiter stated that he > > thought clams were ok for a Vegetarian and not considered meat. Another > > thing, you have no idea what kind of oil is being used for cooking your > > food or what is in the salad dressing that you are being served. Hard > > decision to make whether or not to eat out. > > I seldom do it. Only on special occasions. > > Deanna > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 I can't get over the stupidity of that waiter. Wtf did he think clams were, grown from trees or something? On 1/9/06, genny_y2k <genny_y2k wrote: > > On another occasion I ordered soup and asked before ordering if > the soup had a vegetarian base and was told it did. As soon as I tasted > the soup I detected the taste of clams. The waiter stated that he > thought clams were ok for a Vegetarian and not considered meat. -- AIM: Kyrene Ariadne : kyreneariadne * Dadoukhoi http://www.dadoukhoi.org/ * Temenos Theon: http://kyrene.4t.com * Boston Mysticism Boston_Mystic * NewEngland Hellenists: NewEngland_Hellenists Beloved Pan, and all ye other gods who haunt this place, make me beautiful within, and grant that what-ever happens outside of me will help my soul to grow. May I always be aware that true wealth lies in wisdom, and may my " gold " be so abundant that only a wise man can lift and carry it away. For me that is prayer enough. - Socrates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Well, if they do the Catholic fish on Friday thing, I can see the insistance. But still, it's not vegetarian. I refer to myself as " pescatarian " also, but I'm still down to fish and eggs, pretty limited. On 1/11/06, southernflower <southernflower wrote: > > That's a point too, Kyrene. There was a man at our church who, on the > first > Sunday we were there at a church dinner, remarked to me that his DIL was a > vegetarian too. " Only, my son and we have gotten her to eat fish now, so > she's fine. We just love her just like she IS. " And I thought, " EAT > FISH???? " and " you love her just like she is? YEAH RIGHT " but I kept those > thoughts inside my head...just barely. > > EAT FISH??? > > PUH-LEEZE. Call it " pectotarian " but NOT VEG, 'cause it AIN'T! > > Bron > > > On 1/10/06, Kyrene Ariadne <kyrene wrote: > > > > I can't get over the stupidity of that waiter. Wtf did he think clams > > were, > > grown from trees or something? > > -- AIM: Kyrene Ariadne : kyreneariadne * Dadoukhoi http://www.dadoukhoi.org/ * Temenos Theon: http://kyrene.4t.com * Boston Mysticism Boston_Mystic * NewEngland Hellenists: NewEngland_Hellenists Beloved Pan, and all ye other gods who haunt this place, make me beautiful within, and grant that what-ever happens outside of me will help my soul to grow. May I always be aware that true wealth lies in wisdom, and may my " gold " be so abundant that only a wise man can lift and carry it away. For me that is prayer enough. - Socrates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 > Well, if they do the Catholic fish on Friday thing, I can see the > insistance. But still, it's not vegetarian. I refer to myself as > " pescatarian " also, but I'm still down to fish and eggs, pretty > limited. Well, tha Catholic fish-on-Friday isn't a mandate to eat fish on Froday, it's a mandate to abstain from meat, and fish was a compromise. Long & complicated but that's the gist of it. But anyway, the real issue is that most people believe we can't survive without any flesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Yup. I've been told by others that you " have to " digest animal protein. Um, no you don't. lol Protein, yes. *Animal* protein, no. On 1/11/06, Amy <sandpiperhiker wrote: > Well, tha Catholic fish-on-Friday isn't a mandate to eat fish on > Froday, it's a mandate to abstain from meat, and fish was a > compromise. Long & complicated but that's the gist of it. But > anyway, the real issue is that most people believe we can't survive > without any flesh. -- AIM: Kyrene Ariadne : kyreneariadne * Dadoukhoi http://www.dadoukhoi.org/ * Temenos Theon: http://kyrene.4t.com * Boston Mysticism Boston_Mystic * NewEngland Hellenists: NewEngland_Hellenists Beloved Pan, and all ye other gods who haunt this place, make me beautiful within, and grant that what-ever happens outside of me will help my soul to grow. May I always be aware that true wealth lies in wisdom, and may my " gold " be so abundant that only a wise man can lift and carry it away. For me that is prayer enough. - Socrates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Amy <sandpiperhiker wrote: <snip> But anyway, the real issue is that most people believe we can't survive without any flesh. I like to ask those people, (the christian ones anyway) why Noah had to have such specific instructions about what flesh could be eaten and what flesh not after the flood if we were meant to eat animals. don't know if i changed any minds but have gotten a few to think about it. peace, Angela who I am is fine, it's just this body that's disabled! middle age = that time of life when we realize yesterday's sex, drugs and rock and roll are todays memories, prescriptions and golden oldies! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 > don't know if i changed any minds but have gotten a few to think > about it. Angela, thinking about is what matters. Good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 ---Angela, not sure what your belief system is but for most Christians, the dietary restrictions of Old Testament (Bible) are just that. in the book of Acts (New Testament), the dietary restrictions are done away with. so while Christians are *permitted* to eat meat freely, it doesn't necessarily mean we *have* to : ). Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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