Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Vegan has different meanings to different people. For those who are vegan in diet only (and not total lifestyle--leather free, etc.), they are called " pure vegetarians " by some. Vegan (to me) is--no animal products consumed in any form. This would include ALL meats, fish, eggs, dairy, even honey for the stricter vegans (because it is made by a living creature). Others here may have other ideas. Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 >>>I would like to ask a person who considers themselves to be a part of a vegan diet, exactly what is vegan? And why vegan? Great question, Charleen, as I know that many here on our forum are not actually vegan! Those who follow a vegan diet are individuals who choose to consume only foods that come from plant sources. Animal products such as eggs, dairy, fish, or meat are not included in a vegan diet. There are several reasons for this. Some choose this diet because of religious reasons. Other follow the vegan lifestyle because they believe that animal products are diseased and cause illnesses such as cancer, diabetes, heart disease, and other lifestyle illnesses. Yet others are vegan because they believe in compassion and kindness to animals. And of course, some are vegan because of all of the above. On our list, I believe we also have another group of individuals. Many people who cannot consume gluten are also sensitive to dairy products. Our group is a place where these individuals can share recipes that are both free of gluten and dairy. Some are parents who have children with multiple allergies; some are allergic to wheat and/or dairy. Some discussion has also taken place regarding soy. Althought soy is " allowed " on a vegan and gluten free diet, some choose not to use it because they are allergic or believe it has unhealthful qualities (such as compromising the function of the thyroid). So. . .as you can tell. . .we are a diverse group! I'm thankful for every list member and their contribution, no matter " what " the reason or " why " they are here. I hope this helps in your understanding. ~ LaDonna ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 >>believe it has unhealthful qualities (such as compromising the function of the thyroid). I'm curious...how does soy compromise the thyroid function? Although I don't consume great quantities of soy, I think I may have a (slow) thyroid problem. Thanks. Leilani LaDonna <teacups wrote: >>>I would like to ask a person who considers themselves to be a part of a vegan diet, exactly what is vegan? And why vegan? Great question, Charleen, as I know that many here on our forum are not actually vegan! Those who follow a vegan diet are individuals who choose to consume only foods that come from plant sources. Animal products such as eggs, dairy, fish, or meat are not included in a vegan diet. There are several reasons for this. Some choose this diet because of religious reasons. Other follow the vegan lifestyle because they believe that animal products are diseased and cause illnesses such as cancer, diabetes, heart disease, and other lifestyle illnesses. Yet others are vegan because they believe in compassion and kindness to animals. And of course, some are vegan because of all of the above. On our list, I believe we also have another group of individuals. Many people who cannot consume gluten are also sensitive to dairy products. Our group is a place where these individuals can share recipes that are both free of gluten and dairy. Some are parents who have children with multiple allergies; some are allergic to wheat and/or dairy. Some discussion has also taken place regarding soy. Althought soy is " allowed " on a vegan and gluten free diet, some choose not to use it because they are allergic or believe it has unhealthful qualities (such as compromising the function of the thyroid). So. . .as you can tell. . .we are a diverse group! I'm thankful for every list member and their contribution, no matter " what " the reason or " why " they are here. I hope this helps in your understanding. ~ LaDonna ~ Our vegan and gluten free recipes are available in the archives for this group or at the following URL (***Recipes Posted to VGF***): Check out these affiliated vegan lists ~ http://www.Christian-Vegan-Cooking http://www.VintageVeganTea http://www.VeganFoods4HealthyLiving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 So would some vegans choose to not eat plant materials as well, like fruits, or potatoes? Thank you for your answers everyone. It helps to clear things up about what society " thinks " vegan means. Charleen sahmomof8 wrote: Vegan has different meanings to different people. For those who are vegan in diet only (and not total lifestyle--leather free, etc.), they are called " pure vegetarians " by some. Vegan (to me) is--no animal products consumed in any form. This would include ALL meats, fish, eggs, dairy, even honey for the stricter vegans (because it is made by a living creature). Others here may have other ideas. Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Charlene wrote:>>>So would some vegans choose to not eat plant materials as well, like fruits, or potatoes? Well, maybe " some " , but not specifically because they are vegan. Some individuals avoid tomatoes, potatoes, and other foods in the nightshade family because they make arthritis flare up. Some individuals are a type of vegan who are called fruitarians and they only eat fruit. And so on and so forth. The general term, vegan, though applies to anyone who adopts a plant based lifestyle and that includes what they eat. LaDonna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Charleen There is a subgroup of veganism called fruitarianism in which the person chooses not to eat anything which has not " given " itself for food. This means that they will eat no " living " or still attached to the tree fruits. So, yes, some people choose to eat with other limitations as well. BL So would some vegans choose to not eat plant materials as well, like fruits, or potatoes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Anything containing gelatin could not possible be Vegan or Vegetarian. Correct? Doesn't gelatin come from the hooves of animals and what about the chemicals , preservatives and artificial colors in these cookies , candies and other snack foods? I have never seen a snack cracker or cookie that didn't have milk products of some kind. It is easy being a Vegetarian but sure difficult for the Vegans. Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Or for people who are veggie and don't consume dairy. Although, I suspect many at that point give up and go vegan--I know someone in my position who did so. I'm considering eliminating fish and eggs altogether and doing so. On 1/12/06, genny_y2k <genny_y2k wrote: > Anything containing gelatin could not possible be Vegan or Vegetarian. > Correct? Doesn't gelatin come from the hooves of animals and what > about the chemicals , preservatives and artificial colors in these > cookies , candies and other snack foods? I have never seen a snack > cracker or cookie that didn't have milk products of some kind. It is > easy being a Vegetarian but sure difficult for the Vegans. -- AIM: Kyrene Ariadne : kyreneariadne * Dadoukhoi http://www.dadoukhoi.org/ * Temenos Theon: http://kyrene.4t.com * Boston Mysticism Boston_Mystic * NewEngland Hellenists: NewEngland_Hellenists Beloved Pan, and all ye other gods who haunt this place, make me beautiful within, and grant that what-ever happens outside of me will help my soul to grow. May I always be aware that true wealth lies in wisdom, and may my " gold " be so abundant that only a wise man can lift and carry it away. For me that is prayer enough. - Socrates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 actually, there is a vegetarian gelatin, but as a vegan, I'd avoid any item containing Gelatin as it would most likely be from an animal (from the marrow, and hooves.. yuck!)... still, in those cases, I call the company.. see, Skittles, made in England contain vegan gelatin, but HERE in the US, they use byproducts from teh meat industry to make the gelatin that goes into those candies... that is one of the ways one who abstains from eating cows could still possibly contract mad cow disease. there are plenty of snack crackers that do not contain milk.. one must read all labels to find them! =) there are obviously better (meaning healthier versions!) for instance, when we lived in CA, we'd buy generic crackers (think Ritz crackers) from the food for less store that were vegan.. they had no butter, or animal ingredients. There is also one from Barbaras (I believe.. I have a headache so brain function is not my speciality at this moment.. bear with me please!) anyway, the barbaras version has no hydrogenated oils, and was also vegan.. obviously we preferred (from the health standpoint, the Barbaras version) at that point, Ritz were not vegan, but I don't know now.. companies are constanty changing their formulas... so it is always a good idea to check labels =) even those that you are certain about.. sometimes you get a good surprise and find something has become vegan! yeah! othertimes it works the other way =( the peta link (which has been in our files for quite a while, but THANK YOU BRON for posting it !! those things are always good to share and share again! ) the link simply lists things that you will find in your regular old grocery store (or at your carnivore friend and family's houses) that are vegan. having that info makes it easier , that's all. =) okay.. my brain is fizzled.. if you have any ??s on this.. ask.. I'll just not respond.. well.. not till later! LOL NAP TIme! =) jenni (by the way, we've been a vegan family of four for 3 1/2 years.. vegetarian for 12 1/2) On Jan 12, 2006, at 12:29 PM, genny_y2k wrote: > Anything containing gelatin could not possible be Vegan or Vegetarian. > Correct? Doesn't gelatin come from the hooves of animals and what > about the chemicals , preservatives and artificial colors in these > cookies , candies and other snack foods? I have never seen a snack > cracker or cookie that didn't have milk products of some kind. It is > easy being a Vegetarian but sure difficult for the Vegans. > Deanna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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