Guest guest Posted January 2, 2000 Report Share Posted January 2, 2000 I definitely agree. A picky toddler shouldn't be limited to those few foods. Also, in case it's not something you knew already, this is one of those cases that ebf is really helpful. If you haven't weaned yet, I wouldn't rush to. Samdra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 I am interested to hear others thoughts on this: My partner and I are both vegan, and ironically it is food and what to feed our dd that we disagree about most! I am a cooked food person and I am not into veg. for health reasons, so I am not adverse to a bit of sugar etc. Everything in moderation. My partner is into raw food and lives mostly on fruit, occassional sprouted lentils and nuts. Our dd loves fruit, but also loves cereals, breads & grains, marmite (like vegemite), baked beans, hommous etc. My partner says I am giving her junk food when she eats rye bread and homemade hommous (not to mention baked beans), and other (to me) yummy and healthy things. (she doesn't even like hot chips, crisps or other things that are far more 'junky' in my opinion). Personally I couldn't live on raw food. I get far too hungry after eating a salad alone and I need a good solid meal with lots of protein. I am also concerned about raising a child on a mostly fruit diet (she doesn't like sprouted lentils and is too young for nuts!). Some of the stories of malnourished 'vegan' infants of late seem to have involved extremist diets tending towards raw food. Our dd has always been difficult to feed as it is, and slow to grow, so I rejoice in every type of vegan food I can get into her. I also imagine it would be extremely difficult to restrict her diet, while she can see me eating my hommous and bread! What are others experiences? Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Hi Karen, Raw foods are great, but without supplementation (Vitamin B12, D) your child can be in danger of health problems. I would never feed my child only fruit, or even a majority calories from fruit. Fruit is needed every day, but the child should have dark green leafy vegetables, other vegetables, legumes, grains, nuts, and seeds everyday. The Raw Foods movement is great, except that most of the raw foodists feel B12 isn't needed, or they think you can get it from sea vegetables, which is untrue. If you are breast feeding, then as long as you are getting adequate B12 in your diet, your child will be fine. Commercial cereals are generally not very nutritious, so if your child loves cereals, try making cereal yourself from whole grains, nuts, and seeds. Museli is very easy to make and delicious, and serve it with a little Whole Soy brand soy yogurt (the best, in my opinion). Good luck, Scott -Scott , Karen Bevis <karen@w...> wrote: > I am interested to hear others thoughts on this: > > My partner and I are both vegan, and ironically it is food and what to > feed our dd that we disagree about most! > > I am a cooked food person and I am not into veg. for health reasons, so > I am not adverse to a bit of sugar etc. Everything in moderation. > > My partner is into raw food and lives mostly on fruit, occassional > sprouted lentils and nuts. > > Our dd loves fruit, but also loves cereals, breads & grains, marmite > (like vegemite), baked beans, hommous etc. My partner says I am giving > her junk food when she eats rye bread and homemade hommous (not to > mention baked beans), and other (to me) yummy and healthy things. (she > doesn't even like hot chips, crisps or other things that are far more > 'junky' in my opinion). > > Personally I couldn't live on raw food. I get far too hungry after > eating a salad alone and I need a good solid meal with lots of protein. > I am also concerned about raising a child on a mostly fruit diet (she > doesn't like sprouted lentils and is too young for nuts!). Some of the > stories of malnourished 'vegan' infants of late seem to have involved > extremist diets tending towards raw food. Our dd has always been > difficult to feed as it is, and slow to grow, so I rejoice in every type > of vegan food I can get into her. I also imagine it would be extremely > difficult to restrict her diet, while she can see me eating my hommous > and bread! > > What are others experiences? > > Karen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 A strict raw food diet is much too high in bulk/fiber for a toddler, esp one who is picky (like most.) It is critical that small children receive more fat, protein and calories than raw food can provide. Consult any good vegan nutrition resource, like Becoming Vegan (by Melina and Davis) and it will give you an idea of how much protein, fat and calories a toddler should receive. Because toddlers tend to eat very little, it is important that they receive nutrient dense foods as well as bulkier raw foods. Beans, like hummus, tofu, tempeh, black bean dip, etc and grains provide a lot of the nutrition and variety that toddlers need. My 2 year old relies on a variety of foods in her diet. She is far too picky for me to restrict her diet to only raw foods, though she enjoys those (all fruit, avocado, nuts) as well. There is a really good article about raw foods in a recent issue of the Vegetarian Nutrition and Health Letter from Loma Linda, and it debunks a lot of the myths about cooked foods. Both raw and cooked are necessary parts of a toddler's diet. Adults who choose to eat only raw might be healthy by eating lots and lots of foods, but even then it is often lower in protein and healthy fats than is currently recommended. While this might be okay short term for an adult, it is not okay for a child. Plus you can't force a child to eat what you want her to eat, so being able to offer a variety is critical. Hope this helps! Leena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 I am developing this theory that different people (in regard to nationality, environment, maybe blood type, and a few other factors) will have different nutritional needs. The two most healthy (but extreme) diets seem to be raw food and macrobiotic, which are almost complete opposites (although both are primarily meat, dairy and yeast-free). A macrobiotic diet consists mostly of whole grains, and some cooked veggies, with almost nothing eaten raw. I have many friends who tend to lean one way or the other, and those who are faithful to their diet of choice seem to absolutely flourish from the benefits. I was hard-core macro for a while and felt better than I have ever felt in my life. People on either diet tend to glow, and seem to have more energy than most. With children, it's so hard to follow their intuition with food, because most of them would have four bags of M & M's for dinner if they had the option. Perhaps you could explain to your hubby that some people really do need whole grains, (you most likely being one of them), and come to an agreement on what neither of you would want your daughter to ingest. (Meat? Dairy? Refined sugars?) If one of you feels that a certain food is dangerous, and the other sees it as harmless, but not nutritious, then why not eliminate it? You may have to reach a compromise between the two diets that you both lean towards, until your daughter is old enough to voice what she thinks her body needs. One very difficult thing, which you have probably already come into contact with, is that your child will want to eat whatever her parents are eating. So if you do make a choice to say, cut yeast out of her diet (there are lots of yummy unleavened breads out there), then you will probably have to make the same commitment for yourself if you want it to work. What harm can come from only eating things that you have no doubt are good for your body? Congratulations to both of you though..... look how beautiful you both are for wanting your baby to be as healthy as she can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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