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I can't speak for anyone else, but my children would not be permitted to eat

this, even WITH a nametag. I'm curious -- do you guys disagree? I suppose

it's a moot point since we don't celebrate Halloween, but I was curious...

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I would also put a list of ingredients or at least put a warning that it

contains peanuts. With your name and address included, you wouldn't want to

be sued!

 

Lori

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" Melanie Wilson " <editor

Healthful Halloween Treats

 

HEALTHFUL HALLOWEEN TREATS

 

Come see this terrific recipe from Florie Jones: " I like to include

a tag with my name, address, and phone number for the parents who

are worried about homemade treats coming from a stranger, and I get

lots of calls, but they are mostly to say thanks!! Hardly anyone

thinks to make Halloween treats that are good for you, but all the

parents thank me afterward! "

 

http://www.vegetarianbaby.com/magazine/recipe.html

 

melanie

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What a great idea to include your name and number with the treats!

I have considered homemade treats but never made any because I was

afraid folks would just toss them.

Our " treat " of choice is Fruit Leather by Stretch Island. It's 100%

fruit and organic too. We buy it in bulk from our food co-op so

it's affordable. The kids love it and then ask their parents to get

it instead of fruit roll ups which are mostly high fructose corn

syrup and have artificial colors.

Stephanie

 

 

, " Melanie Wilson " <editor@v...>

wrote:

> HEALTHFUL HALLOWEEN TREATS

>

> Come see this terrific recipe from Florie Jones: " I like to

include

> a tag with my name, address, and phone number for the parents who

> are worried about homemade treats coming from a stranger, and I

get

> lots of calls, but they are mostly to say thanks!! Hardly anyone

> thinks to make Halloween treats that are good for you, but all the

> parents thank me afterward! "

>

> http://www.vegetarianbaby.com/magazine/recipe.html

>

> melanie

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I always skip the whole issue and give out little toys. My children have

the best time searching for the right things in the catalogs and then all

the " trick or treaters " love to search for just the right thing. I put

everything in a big bowl and they get to pick. I think that it also works

out to be cheaper than candy. I don't like my children eating candy - why

would I give it to someone else???

 

Patty in NJ

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Yes I would let my child eat this, name tag or not.

There have only been two Halloween related deaths in

40 or more years, both of which were caused by family

members.

 

The legend of Halloween poisonings and sharp objects

is exactly that a legend! It is in line with the

holiday, meant to scare you. It also is ridiculus to

have your candy X-rayed. I don't want my or my child's

food X-rayed or irradiated.

 

Check out this site for details on the myths of

Halloween poisonings.

 

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/poison/hallowee.htm

 

Michael Moore also describes this myth in his movie

Bowling for Columbine.

 

Also, I am curious why one doesn't celebrate

Halloween. While I don't appreciate all the bloody

characters that many teens and adults dress up as, the

holiday has its origins as a celebration of the dead.

In much earlier times, people dressed up as someone

who died to remember that person's spirit, thus the

ghost. This can still be done, or non-violent costumes

can be used. Also, Nov 1 is Day of the Dead in Mexico.

These holiday traditions can be adapted as well. If

the issue is chocolate candy, then neighborhood

parties are the way to go. Many adults have them so

why not for the kids. Bobbing for apples is fun and

nutritious treats can be served. Kids love pretending

and dressing up. I guess I am biased cause autumn is

my favorite holiday and this is a part of that for me.

I have many good childhood memories of the holiday and

this time of year.

 

I have a great book at home on the origins of

Halloween, it's titled " Witches, Pumpkins and Grinning

Ghosts " by Ursala Arndt. There are other books in the

series as well on Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter,

Valentine's Day, St. Patrick's Day, and July 4th. This

is a neat series. We have used it many times with

family and friends when we were curious as to why we

do something on a particular holiday or to change or

eliminate our own symbols to better align with our

values.

 

Also, I agree that adding the ingredients is helpful.

While we don't have peanut allergies, we know many who

do.

 

Peace,

 

Joann

 

 

--- Sandra Mort <sandra.mort wrote:

> I can't speak for anyone else, but my children

> would not be permitted to eat this, even WITH a

> nametag. I'm curious -- do you guys disagree? I

> suppose it's a moot point since we don't celebrate

> Halloween, but I was curious...

> Sandra

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> any items from the Unique Baby Boutique (

> http://www.shopubb.com/?SandraMort ) and type " LLL

> FUNDRAISER " in the comments section when you check

> out, 20% of each sale will be donated to the NW

> Baltimore chapter. Email Sandra for

> information about registries and home based business

> opportunites, too. Remember: Parent Well... It

> Matters!

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Patty wrote:

 

<< I always skip the whole issue and give out little toys....I think

that it also works out to be cheaper than candy. >>

 

Same here. I've also never put candy in any goodie bags for birthday

parties. I find that both the kids and the parents *prefer* the toys

to candy.

 

I like Oriental Trading Company, which has a website but I don't have

the time right now to look it up. It's something pretty

straightforward....trying just putting .com after the name, that'll

probably work. I buy a handful of different things by the gross (or 6

dozen), and for around $10 I can give out to hundreds of kids. And if

there's any left over, I can keep it for next year (no concern about

what to do with perishable candy).

 

Liz

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I would only let my child eat it if I knew the parent.

 

The last couple of years, I've found little Halloween packages of pretzels

and crayons. The parents of little kids were quite pleased. However, a few

big kids turned there noses up and I did have a back up bag of candy for

them. The big kids aren't from my neighborhood and they looked pretty

intimidating (no costumes, no thank yous...). Being a single parent, I

don't want to make them angry and I worry that they will come back for

revenge.

 

This year I found, packaged for Halloween, stickers, tatoos and Teddy

Grahams. Haven't seen the pretzels yet. I've been meaning to order an

assortment of little toys too. Oriental Trading Company has a lot of stuff

like that.

 

BTW -- I got the crayons on the Crayola website and they were really cheap.

However, I think I got them in the Spring so they were probably a closeout

from the previous year.

 

Lori

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, sjoynsen writes:

Our " treat " of choice is Fruit Leather by Stretch Island. It's 100%

fruit and organic too.

Stephanie,

That is one of our favorite treats as well!

Peace,

Laura

 

 

 

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@PAOLINI.ORG writes:

I always skip the whole issue and give out little toys.

We do a similar thing.

Lots of Halloween pencils, stickers, trinkets.

We also go to Halloween parties so there is no issue about the safety.

 

 

 

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>Yes I would let my child eat this, name tag or not.

>There have only been two Halloween related deaths in

>40 or more years, both of which were caused by family

>members.

 

It's not just about poisonings. I just don't like the idea of food being

prepared by total strangers, containing who knows what, in goodness only knows

what conditions.

 

> Also, I am curious why one doesn't celebrate

> Halloween.

 

Please don't take this as an attack of anyone who feels differently. I'm

answering why I personally don't celebrate Halloween with our family.

 

I think that *MOST* people understand a connection between Christmas

celebrations and Christianity. Even if all you do is celebrate santa and red

nosed reindeer, even if you don't bring Jesus into the picture at all, I

personally don't believe it's any less a Christian holiday. So, using that as a

starting point, we decided that we didn't want to celebrate Christmas, not being

Christian.

 

I have many friends and relatives who celebrate Samhain, the holiday that

Halloween taken from originally. I cannot claim ignorance of the deep religious

significance of this holiday. I do not believe it is respectful to treat

someone else's holidays this way. I wouldn't want anyone to do this to *MY*

holidays, so the least I can do is afford the same to others.

 

In the end, everyone has to decide what they believe, and we (as Jews) have

decided not to include other religious practices (whether in the original or

bastardized forms) in our lives whenever possible.

 

If my kids want to dressup, I'm happy to buy them costumes, and if they want a

holiday with parties and treats and costumes, Purim is only a few months away.

And, imnsho, Purim is way cooler than Halloween anyway. <very big grin>

 

Sandra

 

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in the comments section when you check out, 20% of each sale will be donated to

the NW Baltimore chapter. Email Sandra for information about

registries and home based business opportunites, too. Remember: Parent Well...

It Matters!

 

 

 

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Patty Paolini wrote:

 

>I always skip the whole issue and give out little toys.

 

-Great idea, I was wondering, would you share your toy source? Who do

you order them from and if they have a website or 800#, I think my kids

would love to do this!!

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I have used Oriental trading in the past - That is a

good choice if you have alot of visitors - I usually

only get a few so I give out raisin Boxes.

 

 

--- Elizabeth Bakwin <bakwin wrote:

> Patty wrote:

>

> << I always skip the whole issue and give out little

> toys....I think

> that it also works out to be cheaper than candy. >>

>

> Same here. I've also never put candy in any goodie

> bags for birthday

> parties. I find that both the kids and the parents

> *prefer* the toys

> to candy.

>

> I like Oriental Trading Company, which has a website

> but I don't have

> the time right now to look it up. It's something

> pretty

> straightforward....trying just putting .com after

> the name, that'll

> probably work. I buy a handful of different things

> by the gross (or 6

> dozen), and for around $10 I can give out to

> hundreds of kids. And if

> there's any left over, I can keep it for next year

> (no concern about

> what to do with perishable candy).

>

> Liz

>

>

>

>

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That was my thought, too. My son is highly allergic to peanuts and if someone

gave a homemade treat to him, I wouldn't allow him to eat it without knowing

exactly what was in it.

 

Maria

 

 

Lori Lugar <llugar wrote:

I would also put a list of ingredients or at least put a warning that it

contains peanuts. With your name and address included, you wouldn't want to

be sued!

 

Lori

_

 

Message: 2

Wed, 01 Oct 2003 08:34:43 -0000

" Melanie Wilson " <editor

Healthful Halloween Treats

 

HEALTHFUL HALLOWEEN TREATS

 

Come see this terrific recipe from Florie Jones: " I like to include

a tag with my name, address, and phone number for the parents who

are worried about homemade treats coming from a stranger, and I get

lots of calls, but they are mostly to say thanks!! Hardly anyone

thinks to make Halloween treats that are good for you, but all the

parents thank me afterward! "

 

http://www.vegetarianbaby.com/magazine/recipe.html

 

melanie

 

 

 

 

 

 

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At 01:04 AM 10/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Patty Paolini wrote:

 

>-Great idea, I was wondering, would you share your toy source? Who do

>you order them from and if they have a website or 800#, I think my kids

>would love to do this!!

 

Oriental Trading Company

(<http://www.oriental-trading.com/Apps/DCS/mcp?r=7003iBp3XmW01A00031H203iBp0mPZp\

jPZmM>OrientalTrading.com)

or USToy Company (www.ustoy.com).

I've used both and they are both good just a little different. I also buy

for any of those parties in school (Hallaoween, Winter Holiday, Valentine's

Day,etc.) at the same time. I don't send in candy to school

either. Usually if you order a certain amount you get free shipping.

 

I don't have any interest in those companies. I'm just trying to cut down

on the amount of junk food that my children are given. I couldn't believe

how much candy is given out in public school.

 

Patty Paolini

 

 

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I would only give my child the homemade treats if I knew the

parents. I love the toy idea for treats. I have been getting the

Oriental Trading Co. catalog for years but never got around to trying

anything from it. Their website for those interested is

www.orientaltrading.com. They also have alot of great little craft

projects.

 

Leigh Kobus

, " Natalie Yarbrough " <natalie@s...>

wrote:

> Patty Paolini wrote:

>

> >I always skip the whole issue and give out little toys.

>

> -Great idea, I was wondering, would you share your toy source? Who

do

> you order them from and if they have a website or 800#, I think my

kids

> would love to do this!!

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Thanks Sandra. Happy Yom Kippur!

 

As I responded already, I didn't think about the

possiblility of other religious holidays or kosher

foods. I am in Ohio and in many parts of rural Ohio

many who have decided not to celebrate halloween are

participating in fundamentalist forms of christianity.

 

 

What can you tell me about Samhain? Was it a pagan

holiday? I did know about the christian roots of

halloween but I am not familiar with Samhain. Also,

tell me about Purim. I have several friends and inlaws

who are Jewish, but they do not celebrate this

holiday. They have incorporated many christian

holidays into their life calling them part of american

culture. They are not orthodox in their practicing the

Jewish religion.

 

Although I was raised catholic, I do not practice any

organized religion; I assume our friends would label

us atheists. My partner and I are always looking for

ways to change holidays of our upbringing and include

new holidays. So we are always learning more about

other cultures in order to do that. We take ideas that

are inline with our ideas about peace, justice, love,

and equality and incorporate them into our practices.

This angers some because we are perverting the

holiday, but because of our religious beliefs, we

don't celebrate or borrow if it directly relates to

somekind of worship of a god or higher being.

 

Thanks again for the info and hope I didn't offend

you; I responded without thinking. (I tend to do that

when I am overwhelmed.) If you'd rather respond

privately to these question than on the veg list, that

would be great.

 

Peace,

 

Joann

 

 

--- Sandra Mort <sandra.mort wrote:

> >Yes I would let my child eat this, name tag or not.

> >There have only been two Halloween related deaths

> in

> >40 or more years, both of which were caused by

> family

> >members.

>

> It's not just about poisonings. I just don't like

> the idea of food being prepared by total strangers,

> containing who knows what, in goodness only knows

> what conditions.

>

> > Also, I am curious why one doesn't celebrate

> > Halloween.

>

> Please don't take this as an attack of anyone who

> feels differently. I'm answering why I personally

> don't celebrate Halloween with our family.

>

> I think that *MOST* people understand a connection

> between Christmas celebrations and Christianity.

> Even if all you do is celebrate santa and red nosed

> reindeer, even if you don't bring Jesus into the

> picture at all, I personally don't believe it's any

> less a Christian holiday. So, using that as a

> starting point, we decided that we didn't want to

> celebrate Christmas, not being Christian.

>

> I have many friends and relatives who celebrate

> Samhain, the holiday that Halloween taken from

> originally. I cannot claim ignorance of the deep

> religious significance of this holiday. I do not

> believe it is respectful to treat someone else's

> holidays this way. I wouldn't want anyone to do

> this to *MY* holidays, so the least I can do is

> afford the same to others.

>

> In the end, everyone has to decide what they

> believe, and we (as Jews) have decided not to

> include other religious practices (whether in the

> original or bastardized forms) in our lives whenever

> possible.

>

> If my kids want to dressup, I'm happy to buy them

> costumes, and if they want a holiday with parties

> and treats and costumes, Purim is only a few months

> away. And, imnsho, Purim is way cooler than

> Halloween anyway. <very big grin>

>

> Sandra

>

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> any items from the Unique Baby Boutique (

> http://www.shopubb.com/?SandraMort ) and type " LLL

> FUNDRAISER " in the comments section when you check

> out, 20% of each sale will be donated to the NW

> Baltimore chapter. Email Sandra for

> information about registries and home based business

> opportunites, too. Remember: Parent Well... It

> Matters!

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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