Veggie marshmallows melt? Also, protein sources for teen athlete

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

 

There was lots of discussion about veggie marshallows a little while

back. I went back through the list & lots of info. about taste

but...do any of them melt over a campfire?

 

Also, my thirteen year old is on the swimteam and needs lots of

protein in the summer. She's pretty picky, though not so much as when

she was younger. Her main protein source is cheese, but she really

need protein at every meal. And more variety.

 

She loves some choclate ensure bottles I bought her, also regular

choclate soymilk. I do want to limit her soy intake to no more than

one serving a day because of all the controversy. She also likes

veggie hotdogs & boca burgers crumbed in spagetti, but again I'm

seriously limiting because of the soy thing.

 

She's not big on beans/peas of any kind. Though she does eat Taco

Bell's bean burrito.

 

I'd love it if there were some good, yummy recipes with peanuts.

Something beyond the old pbj that she's been brown bagging to lunch

all year and is sick of. So... any other ideas for protein?

 

Julie

[Guest guest]

well there are protein powders (pea, hemp, whey etc) that she could try if you

are anti-soy. Also wheat gluten can be used in place of soy but a lot of people

are alergic to gluten so a quick web search turned up all anti-gluten sites..

maybe you could find a pro-gluten cookbook and get some good recipes. I believe

that the Veat line of products use wheat gluten instead of soy. It contains a

small amount of whey. But I believe that the whey used does not support the

veal industry. You may want to check with them to be sure on that. And of

course there is quorn which is soy free. And the quorn contains egg-whites from

free range chickens. I wouldn't be so quick to jump on the anti-soy bandwangon.

Most of that data comes from meat/dairy propoganda that uses scare tactics to

try to get people to eat more meat and dairy.. they fear for their industry's

survival so they try to scare us with their so-called research.

Renee

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

okay.. a few more ideas. As I have a picky kid who will be starting school in

the fall. And my little one doesn't like sandwiches. So I'm thinking of

packing her hummus with veggies to dip in it. Hummus has a fair amount of

protein in it. I don't think swimmers (I swam in High School and College)

require as much protein as bodybuilders do. It also has quite a bit of fat in

it. Which the right kind of fat is good for kids so I'm not too worried about

my little one's fat intake from hummus. Assuming she is eating some grain

(oatmeal, hot cereal) for breakfast, maybe (since she is eating dairy) a

gelatin-free yoghurt for a snack (the kind with fruit tend to be vegetarian), a

soy-based sandwich (yves/ lightlife deli slices) for lunch (for her soy quota)

and then you can make some soy-free high protein dinner at night. Besides

quorn, veat, and wheat gluten... I thought of something else.. there all sorts

of things you can do with lentils. Which will be a high-protein,

high-fiber dish.

Renee

 

Julie <jjalrs wrote:

Hi all,

 

There was lots of discussion about veggie marshallows a little while

back. I went back through the list & lots of info. about taste

but...do any of them melt over a campfire?

 

Also, my thirteen year old is on the swimteam and needs lots of

protein in the summer. She's pretty picky, though not so much as when

she was younger. Her main protein source is cheese, but she really

need protein at every meal. And more variety.

 

She loves some choclate ensure bottles I bought her, also regular

choclate soymilk. I do want to limit her soy intake to no more than

one serving a day because of all the controversy. She also likes

veggie hotdogs & boca burgers crumbed in spagetti, but again I'm

seriously limiting because of the soy thing.

 

She's not big on beans/peas of any kind. Though she does eat Taco

Bell's bean burrito.

 

I'd love it if there were some good, yummy recipes with peanuts.

Something beyond the old pbj that she's been brown bagging to lunch

all year and is sick of. So... any other ideas for protein?

 

Julie

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I need to reply on both counts.

 

First, we recently tried both the Pangea and the Vegan Essentials

marshmallows. The ones from Vegan Essentials are by far the best for camp

fires. They melt. Actually a bit too much, but at least you get that

satisfying stickiness and the kids have a lot of fun with them. The Pangea

ones are really too small and they just sit on the stick and don't do much

at all at a camp fire.

 

I wish I had some advice for your teen athlete. I'm in the same boat except

mine are vegan! They play competitive soccer which is very demanding. My son

has been playing at a high level since he was 6 and he's now 13. He's been

vegan for 3 years, and veggie his entire life. He is also picky (used to be

VERY picky!), and I've worried about getting enough protein into him ever

since he stopped breastfeeding at 6 months! He would live on bread if he

could. Actually, he's been getting much better and eats tofu and bean

burritos, veggie chili (but only in a bread bowl -- actually something you

might try!) and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. I give my kids soymilk

hot chocolate every morning because they don't really like it plain. (he

absolutely hated cows milk when he was little!)

 

Anyway, we definitely depend on soy A LOT! Both of my kids are vegan and

very very active playing soccer, basketball, etc. My 9 year-old daughter is

a good eater so I don't worry about her so much. But they are both consuming

way too much soy if what those anti-soy mongers are saying is true. I don't

really believe it but I do wish we could get away from depending on soy so

much. Problem is, my family absolutely loves tofu, soy veggie burgers,

tofurkey etc.

 

All this said I'm going now list the ways I try to sneak protein into my

kids who aren't big fans of nuts, or many kinds of beans, lentils, etc.

(warning: some but not all soy-intensive):

 

--soy-flax waffles

--pita bread pizzas made w/ vegan cheese (mix with sauce and olive oil

before spreading) w/veggie pepperoni or slices of baked tofu and veggies and

pineapple

--tofu balls and spaghetti (sauté melon-baller scooped tofu w/ olive oil and

garlic, add spices and tomato sauce)

--soy hot cocoa every morning

--bean burritos (sometimes we add baked tofu or veggie taco meat). We do

Taco Bell on-the-go.

--peanut butter on bagels or toast or crackers or anyway I can think of to

get them to consume more peanut butter!

--falafel pita with hummus -- they like the Fantastic Foods brand, fried by

yours truly. Most restaurant falafel is too spicy and they leave most of it

on their plate

--tofurkey sandwiches. When we get Subway (when we are on-the-go to various

sporting events, etc), we bring along Tofurkey in a cooler to put in it.

--Almond meal pancakes. -- I add ground almonds from Trader Joes to my

homemade vegan pancake mix. I also add soy flour.

-- baked tofu -- spread a mixture of nutri yeast and tamari on slices and

bake in olive oil - yum!

--Vegan quesadillas -- spread one tortilla w/ beans and grate some vegan

cheese on it. Top w/ Spanish rice if you have it. Add another tortilla on

top. Fry both sides in bit of oil.

--Smoothies. I use either vegan rice protein powder, or Spirotein Jr. with

fruit and soy milk and sometimes soy ice cream or sorbet. My son won't drink

large quantities, but my daughter loves smoothies.

-- Chick-n-grill (from Gardenburger) veggie burgers and Yves tofu hotdogs.

They love these. They are major mustard fans.

-- Chips with bean dip. Mix a can of refried beans with salsa. Heat if you

like.

-- Veggie chili in a bread bowl. Add refried beans to the broth to thicken

and add more protein.

-- Veggie soup with a can of great northern beans added. Let the beans

dissolve into the broth.

-- Split pea soup. Blend the soup when the peas are cooked, and then add

some barley. Yum.

 

I hope I was of some help. I do believe that soy is a better choice than

dairy for protein. Too many hormones in dairy. Just look at all the girls

and the way they are developing breasts so early. I feel like a great deal

of girls are " peaking " physically at 13 or 14. Meaning they have breasts and

a cute layer of fat, which won't be so cute when they are 25! Not to

mention the breast cancer risk of being exposed to hormones for longer

perios of time (due to early menses).

 

We would eat eggs if we lived on a farm and had pet chickens. Eggs are good

protein, but I don't trust any of the ones you can buy.

 

I do feel it's difficult to meet an atheletic growing child's needs on a

vegan diet. My son has always been small for his age, and he's the youngest

in his grade (November b-day). But I do think it's great that they don't

consume all the junk that most kids do -- no doughnuts, cake, cookies, etc

unless we buy or make them special. They eat way less white flour than most

kids. They are a great deal healthier than their friends. They will

probably never be over weight. They are happy and energetic. They fit in

very well with their peers, even with a " strange " diet. They are strong.

These are the gifts that they have.

 

For those of you out there with the picky, skinny 2-10 year-old: I had one

of those. Just keep trying to be inventive. Try not to use too much pressure

to eat (this is really really hard to do). My son has really started to come

around to trying new things and he's finally growing and getting really

hungry! (he was always growing, just slowly, at his own rate).

 

Sorry this is so long. I have been meaning to post my concern about our

soy-intensive diet for a long while now, and so if anyone has any ideas for

easy nonsoy vegan nutritious meals, please let me know!

 

Good luck everybody!

 

Tracy

 

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" Julie " <jjalrs

 

Friday, May 21, 2004 10:12 PM

Veggie marshmallows melt? Also, protein sources for

teen athlete

 

 

> Hi all,

>

> There was lots of discussion about veggie marshallows a little while

> back. I went back through the list & lots of info. about taste

> but...do any of them melt over a campfire?

>

> Also, my thirteen year old is on the swimteam and needs lots of

> protein in the summer. She's pretty picky, though not so much as when

> she was younger. Her main protein source is cheese, but she really

> need protein at every meal. And more variety.

>

> She loves some choclate ensure bottles I bought her, also regular

> choclate soymilk. I do want to limit her soy intake to no more than

> one serving a day because of all the controversy. She also likes

> veggie hotdogs & boca burgers crumbed in spagetti, but again I'm

> seriously limiting because of the soy thing.

>

> She's not big on beans/peas of any kind. Though she does eat Taco

> Bell's bean burrito.

>

> I'd love it if there were some good, yummy recipes with peanuts.

> Something beyond the old pbj that she's been brown bagging to lunch

> all year and is sick of. So... any other ideas for protein?

>

> Julie

>

>

>

>

>

> For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

>

> edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Also don't forget about sunflower seeds! Keep a baggie around in the car,

and put out a bowlful to snack on. Also try pumpkin seeds.

 

Tracy

 

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" Julie " <jjalrs

 

Friday, May 21, 2004 10:12 PM

Veggie marshmallows melt? Also, protein sources for

teen athlete

 

 

> Hi all,

>

> There was lots of discussion about veggie marshallows a little while

> back. I went back through the list & lots of info. about taste

> but...do any of them melt over a campfire?

>

> Also, my thirteen year old is on the swimteam and needs lots of

> protein in the summer. She's pretty picky, though not so much as when

> she was younger. Her main protein source is cheese, but she really

> need protein at every meal. And more variety.

>

> She loves some choclate ensure bottles I bought her, also regular

> choclate soymilk. I do want to limit her soy intake to no more than

> one serving a day because of all the controversy. She also likes

> veggie hotdogs & boca burgers crumbed in spagetti, but again I'm

> seriously limiting because of the soy thing.

>

> She's not big on beans/peas of any kind. Though she does eat Taco

> Bell's bean burrito.

>

> I'd love it if there were some good, yummy recipes with peanuts.

> Something beyond the old pbj that she's been brown bagging to lunch

> all year and is sick of. So... any other ideas for protein?

>

> Julie

>

>

>

>

>

> For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

>

> edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

>

>

>