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> " Madeline White " <madeline_killian

>

> I have a question for someone/anyone out there...how do you deal with it

> when your child refuses to eat some/cretain foods. I do try not to make an

> issue of it but sometimes...(snip)

> ...I feel that there has to be a happy

> medium somewhere. Also, sometimes he says he *hates* a food and then after I

> insist on one bite he gobbles it all up and asks for more.

> (snip) other people tell me that it should be eat what

> is on your plate or go hungry. I do not agree with this and would never go

> this far but would like some other ideas.

 

You might try setting up the rule ahead of time, not at the moment. The

rule can be 1 or 2 bites of everything, and *then* if he doesn't like it he

doesn't have to eat more. Knowing in advance that that's the rule may help

both of you feel better about it. And then, if he decides he loves it, he

can save face. With kids, sometimes they have to taste something quite a

few times before they decide it's palatable, but if that never happens, at

least they don't have to suffer a full portion and you'll know, after a few

attempts, that they really *do* dislike it.

I don't agree with those " it's all or nothing " parents - makes for a

miserable meal, and besides, do *you* want to be forced to eat something you

hate? Does it matter that he may not really hate it? I was forced to eat

butternut squash one night, I was 7, and I threw it all up all over my

plate. To this day I won't eat butternut squash, although I love all other

squashes.

BTW, my son (5yo) is going thru a very picky phase, and also does the HATE

IT - LOVE IT thing....

Peace,

Doh

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All beings tremble before violence. All fear death, all love life. See

yourself in others. Then whom can you hurt? What harm can you do? ~ Buddha

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I was blessed with 3 hardy children who eat everything. Very rarely do they

" hate " something I fix. I don't worry when they decide they don't want to

eat as much as I want them too becuase they ARE healthy. If they were pale

and super skinny I guess I'd worry, but well my grandma was right, they'll

eat when they're hungry. If they only eat noodles for dinner one night,

they'll make up for it at breakfast.

 

I have friends who do everything but beg they're kids to eat, and boy do

those kids enjoy the power struggle. If you let them make a big deal about

it they will. At our house you don't have to eat your salad if you don't

want to, but then you don't get pudding for dessert.

 

 

jodi

 

Doh! [dohdriver]

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:09 AM

 

Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

 

> " Madeline White " <madeline_killian

>

> I have a question for someone/anyone out there...how do you deal with it

> when your child refuses to eat some/cretain foods. I do try not to make

an

> issue of it but sometimes...(snip)

> ...I feel that there has to be a happy

> medium somewhere. Also, sometimes he says he *hates* a food and then

after I

> insist on one bite he gobbles it all up and asks for more.

> (snip) other people tell me that it should be eat what

> is on your plate or go hungry. I do not agree with this and would never

go

> this far but would like some other ideas.

 

You might try setting up the rule ahead of time, not at the moment. The

rule can be 1 or 2 bites of everything, and *then* if he doesn't like it

he

doesn't have to eat more. Knowing in advance that that's the rule may

help

both of you feel better about it. And then, if he decides he loves it, he

can save face. With kids, sometimes they have to taste something quite a

few times before they decide it's palatable, but if that never happens, at

least they don't have to suffer a full portion and you'll know, after a

few

attempts, that they really *do* dislike it.

I don't agree with those " it's all or nothing " parents - makes for a

miserable meal, and besides, do *you* want to be forced to eat something

you

hate? Does it matter that he may not really hate it? I was forced to eat

butternut squash one night, I was 7, and I threw it all up all over my

plate. To this day I won't eat butternut squash, although I love all

other

squashes.

BTW, my son (5yo) is going thru a very picky phase, and also does the HATE

IT - LOVE IT thing....

Peace,

Doh

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All beings tremble before violence. All fear death, all love life. See

yourself in others. Then whom can you hurt? What harm can you do? ~ Buddha

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

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My current food problem with my daughter is that we will make a meal

that I KNOW that she likes. She will eat a few small bites then say

she is full. I will try to get her to eat more but at most will coax

one more bite out of her. Then, about 10 minutes after I have

cleaned up her plate she will say she is hungry and wants a snack or

desert. Erghhhh! If she didnt eat good I will say no desert, but

she spends the whole night after that complaining that she is

hungry. I will try and fix her a healthy snack but still it is

frustrating because I know that she liked the dinner, she just

wouldnt eat it.

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Friends who have heard me talk about my son's pickiness but have never witnessed

it firsthand are amazed when they sit down to share a meal with us at his

complete lack of interest in anything I put in front of him to eat. And I mean

almost a militant refusal to eat one single thing on his plate.

 

He has never been an enthusiastic eater, but he has gotten much more extreme in

the past couple of years -- he just turned five. I can sometimes get him to eat

a little breakfast (cereal or toast) or a bit of a peanut butter sandwich or

baked tofu for lunch. But he seldom eats anything for dinner, even though I

make him sit down with my husband and me, and serve him whatever we are eating.

If he had his way, he would not even come to the table; he'd much rather stay in

his room playing with his dinosaurs or Legos. Though I believe strongly that my

son should eat what is being served, I often give in and coax him to eat a

mouthful of yogurt or a corner of a piece of bread, but that's about it at

dinnertime. Although he is proud to be a vegetarian, he wants no part of the

wholesome, delicious veggie meals I cook. And if there is something he tells me

he likes, he *never* takes more than two or three tiny bites.

 

As an infant, he tried all kinds of foods -- homemade baby foods, tofu, fruits,

vegetables, cereals. Now, at five, he is severely underweight but healthy and

extremely active and full of energy. I've read all the books, consulted four

different nutritionists and countless doctors, cajoled, begged, pleaded, and

bribed to try to get my son to eat. At this point, I have decided not to stress

about it any more. I make sure he gets a good multivitamin and beyond that I

simply cannot force him to eat. I continue to send a lunchbox full of healthy

food to school with him each morning, and most of it comes back untouched. I

worry about his weight and his lack of interest in food, even foods that picky

eaters are supposed to love.

 

I suppose I'd say that the one thing I will not relent on is that my son must

come to the table and join his dad and me, even if he does not want to eat. I

figure that eventually he will give in and try the food and maybe over time he

will decide he wants to eat with us. We just keep making up the plate for my son

each night, and our two very happy dogs sit under the table at his feet, waiting

patiently.

 

Terry

 

 

 

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what I do is put the food in the refrigerator.. if she

is hungry later she can eat the rest of her dinner.

And it means no afternoon snack the next day because

that is what spoiled her dinner. Eventually she gets

the idea if she wants her snack she needs to eat her

dinner.

Reneee

 

--- smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote:

 

> My current food problem with my daughter is that we

> will make a meal

> that I KNOW that she likes. She will eat a few

> small bites then say

> she is full. I will try to get her to eat more but

> at most will coax

> one more bite out of her. Then, about 10 minutes

> after I have

> cleaned up her plate she will say she is hungry and

> wants a snack or

> desert. Erghhhh! If she didnt eat good I will say

> no desert, but

> she spends the whole night after that complaining

> that she is

> hungry. I will try and fix her a healthy snack but

> still it is

> frustrating because I know that she liked the

> dinner, she just

> wouldnt eat it.

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I can relate to all the latest responses. My (vegan since age 10 and

vegetarian his entire life) son is now 13 (almost 14) and weighs 85 pounds.

And this is quite amazing because he has never had much of an appetite.

Most of his friends weight over 100. He did start eating more of a variety

at around 5 to 6 years-old, but it varied from day to day. He still loves

bread and carbs the best. We have done a mixture of " encouraging " him to

eat thru the use of dessert after dinner and backing off at other times. He

has always loved waffles (frozen kind) for breakfast . Ie elementary school

he would hardly eat any lunch, but have toast for snack when he got home.

Dinner has gotten better and better thru the years.

 

Meanwhile he's very healthy and plays soccer at the highest level for his

age (this summer we travelled to Las Vegas, North Carolina and Boston for

him to play soccer). Part of the problem with weight gain, I'm sure, has

been that he has a difficult time having any extra calories around at the

end of the day. He just doesn't have a huge appetite. It's getting better,

but no where near his peers.

 

My advice is to do your best to get healthy food into your child. I know

it's frustrating. You don't know how many great smoothies have gone down

the drain undrank! (and then the next time he would drain it!) Don't resort

to junk food too often. Try not to worry about it if the child is healthy

and energetic. Give them vitamins.

 

His latest thing is Cliff Builder bars. Have you guys seen them? 20 grams of

protein in each! And he likes them which is amazing. I try to only give

them to him during tournaments and they are great for travel.

 

Here is a snack my kids invented and were eating for awhile. They have

forgotten about it recently and are eathing other things. Kind of junky, but

if your kid is really picky....

 

Toast some whole wheat bread. Put some vegan choco chips on one side of the

bread and put it back in the toaster oven for a few seconds to melt the

chocolate. Put peanut butter on the other side. Fold over and you have a

Reeses Peanut Butter toast! I think the choc. chips from the health food

store have less sugar than the ones from the grocery store, but I may be

wrong and just be fooling myself :)

 

Good luck!

Tracy

 

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" Terry Somerson " <terry

 

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 8:19 PM

Re: Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

>

> Friends who have heard me talk about my son's pickiness but have never

witnessed it firsthand are amazed when they sit down to share a meal with us

at his complete lack of interest in anything I put in front of him to eat.

And I mean almost a militant refusal to eat one single thing on his plate.

>

> He has never been an enthusiastic eater, but he has gotten much more

extreme in the past couple of years -- he just turned five. I can sometimes

get him to eat a little breakfast (cereal or toast) or a bit of a peanut

butter sandwich or baked tofu for lunch. But he seldom eats anything for

dinner, even though I make him sit down with my husband and me, and serve

him whatever we are eating. If he had his way, he would not even come to

the table; he'd much rather stay in his room playing with his dinosaurs or

Legos. Though I believe strongly that my son should eat what is being

served, I often give in and coax him to eat a mouthful of yogurt or a corner

of a piece of bread, but that's about it at dinnertime. Although he is

proud to be a vegetarian, he wants no part of the wholesome, delicious

veggie meals I cook. And if there is something he tells me he likes, he

*never* takes more than two or three tiny bites.

>

> As an infant, he tried all kinds of foods -- homemade baby foods, tofu,

fruits, vegetables, cereals. Now, at five, he is severely underweight but

healthy and extremely active and full of energy. I've read all the books,

consulted four different nutritionists and countless doctors, cajoled,

begged, pleaded, and bribed to try to get my son to eat. At this point, I

have decided not to stress about it any more. I make sure he gets a good

multivitamin and beyond that I simply cannot force him to eat. I continue

to send a lunchbox full of healthy food to school with him each morning, and

most of it comes back untouched. I worry about his weight and his lack of

interest in food, even foods that picky eaters are supposed to love.

>

> I suppose I'd say that the one thing I will not relent on is that my son

must come to the table and join his dad and me, even if he does not want to

eat. I figure that eventually he will give in and try the food and maybe

over time he will decide he wants to eat with us. We just keep making up the

plate for my son each night, and our two very happy dogs sit under the table

at his feet, waiting patiently.

>

> Terry

>

>

>

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My daughter is doing this too.

 

So instead of throwing her dinner away, we put it in the microwave and if

shes hungry she can finish it.

 

She would rather have snacks all day instead of meals.

 

 

 

Sarah

 

Mommy to:

 

Alexin~ my big 3 year old

 

Homebirthing momma to Cameron~9 months

 

_____

 

smartgirl27us [thesmartfamily3]

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:17 AM

 

Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

 

My current food problem with my daughter is that we will make a meal

that I KNOW that she likes. She will eat a few small bites then say

she is full. I will try to get her to eat more but at most will coax

one more bite out of her. Then, about 10 minutes after I have

cleaned up her plate she will say she is hungry and wants a snack or

desert. Erghhhh! If she didnt eat good I will say no desert, but

she spends the whole night after that complaining that she is

hungry. I will try and fix her a healthy snack but still it is

frustrating because I know that she liked the dinner, she just

wouldnt eat it.

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I feel that it is better that children learn to listen to their bodies, eating

when they are hungry, not eating when they are not. It should not become a

control issue between you, unless you want to set her up for future

weight/eating disorder issues. Our country has such an obsession with

food/control, constantly bombarding our children with unhealthy choices(either

binging on unhealthy snacks, or suggesting that everyone diet or loose weight!

It's just crazy, we need to get back to balance... As far as your daughter is

concerned, maybe she is a grazer, eating smaller amounts every two hours or so,

this is actually healthier for the digestive system, as it does not get over

loaded. My daughter & I tend to fall into this category. We are both

lacto-ovo-vegetarian, eating mostly organic, whenever possible. She is almost

14yrs old(early October) has always been very healthy, vibrant, energetic,

athletic, has never had food or weight issues. I've been vegetarian since I was

13 years

old(things that I read about the meat back then convinced me to give it up!)My

parents were shocked at first, but very resonably listened to my case, then let

me follow my convictions, even though the rest of my family continued to eat

meat. I rarely get sick, & when I do catch a " bug " , it does not last long.

As a small child, my parents & grandparents used to have you sit at the table

until everything was eaten on our plates(even though the portions they gave us

were more adult sized portions) If it was not finished, it was in the frig for

the next meal, & the next to infinity,,,,if need be, you were not allowed

anything else. This pattern, to me, only speaks of a struggle for control, which

is not the eventual outcome most of us as parents want for our children. I

therefore never did this to my daughter, I chose instead to teach her at a very

young age, to make good choices. She was given very small portions to begin

with(they can always go back for seconds). Allowing them room for choices in

their small world is very empowering for them. Things that she did not like, or

new foods, she would at least have to have one or two bites of. My daughter made

an amazing choice for herself last February(for Lent she gave up soda,

previously she drank 1 per night, mostly Sprite), she has not had

one since. Sometimes her friends tease her, but most are supportive, & some

have come over to the healtier alternative of drinking water too!

Sorry this is so long....hope it helps.....good luck & may God Bless......Dawn

 

Renee Carroll <renecarol25 wrote:

what I do is put the food in the refrigerator.. if she

is hungry later she can eat the rest of her dinner.

And it means no afternoon snack the next day because

that is what spoiled her dinner. Eventually she gets

the idea if she wants her snack she needs to eat her

dinner.

Reneee

 

--- smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote:

 

> My current food problem with my daughter is that we

> will make a meal

> that I KNOW that she likes. She will eat a few

> small bites then say

> she is full. I will try to get her to eat more but

> at most will coax

> one more bite out of her. Then, about 10 minutes

> after I have

> cleaned up her plate she will say she is hungry and

> wants a snack or

> desert. Erghhhh! If she didnt eat good I will say

> no desert, but

> she spends the whole night after that complaining

> that she is

> hungry. I will try and fix her a healthy snack but

> still it is

> frustrating because I know that she liked the

> dinner, she just

> wouldnt eat it.

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

 

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, " smartgirl27us "

<thesmartfamily3> wrote:

> My current food problem with my daughter is that we will make a meal

> that I KNOW that she likes. She will eat a few small bites then say

> she is full. I will try to get her to eat more but at most will coax

> one more bite out of her. Then, about 10 minutes after I have

> cleaned up her plate she will say she is hungry and wants a snack or

> desert. Erghhhh! If she didnt eat good I will say no desert, but

> she spends the whole night after that complaining that she is

> hungry. I will try and fix her a healthy snack but still it is

> frustrating because I know that she liked the dinner, she just

> wouldnt eat it.

 

Sounds like a power struggle to me. How old is she? My kids went

through a phase of doing that. I would offer to warm up their food for

them, and suddenly they weren't *that* hungry anymore ... I would quit

the coaxing, though. If she doesn't want to eat at dinnertime, and

she's older than four years old, I'd let her be the judge of her

hunger, but with a clear warning that she cannot fill up on junk

later. Most kids in Western countries are not likely to starve to

death from missing one meal!

 

Be well, Hadass, supertaster but not pushover.

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On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, smartgirl27us wrote:

 

> My current food problem with my daughter is that we will make a meal

> that I KNOW that she likes. She will eat a few small bites then say

> she is full. I will try to get her to eat more but at most will coax

> one more bite out of her. Then, about 10 minutes after I have

> cleaned up her plate she will say she is hungry and wants a snack or

> desert. Erghhhh! If she didnt eat good I will say no desert, but

> she spends the whole night after that complaining that she is

> hungry. I will try and fix her a healthy snack but still it is

> frustrating because I know that she liked the dinner, she just

> wouldnt eat it.

 

In this case, I would pack up her leftover dinner and then if she says

she's hungry offer the leftovers to her instead of a new snack.

 

----

Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia

 

The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered

three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the

purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each

nonexisted in an entirely different way ...

-- Stanislaw Lem, " Cyberiad "

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My 3 yr old is the queen of the 2 bites. However, if she doesn't eat dinner

she DOESN'T get a snack, or dessert of course. She does eat a good breakfast

though. IF she were sickly I probably wouldn't do it like that, but since

she is a healthy yet picky kid I feel ok doing it this way. Yeah, she can

whine, but we have seperate rules regarding whining.

 

Kids will eat if they are hungry, and I'm not going to let mine turn into

snackers.

smartgirl27us [thesmartfamily3]

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:17 PM

Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

My current food problem with my daughter is that we will make a meal

that I KNOW that she likes. She will eat a few small bites then say

she is full. I will try to get her to eat more but at most will coax

one more bite out of her. Then, about 10 minutes after I have

cleaned up her plate she will say she is hungry and wants a snack or

desert. Erghhhh! If she didnt eat good I will say no desert, but

she spends the whole night after that complaining that she is

hungry. I will try and fix her a healthy snack but still it is

frustrating because I know that she liked the dinner, she just

wouldnt eat it.

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

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Another tip I have heard often helps with picky eaters is to have them help to

make the meal.

 

Kids often will take great pride in their acomplishments and therefore are more

likely to eat it. This is also helping to give them a choice of what to eat. If

they choose it themsleves their excuses of not liking it are invalid and even

young children can understand this (within reason) Try and give them choices

and see what happens. If you know they need x vitamin, or nutrients give them a

choice between two or threee things with it,. in other words give them choices ,

that you can live with.

 

It sounds like some of your kids may just be asserting their power " not to eat "

.. I don't know how old all of your children are but at least the five year old

is old enough to ask... " why is it that you do not want to eat? What would make

you want to eat better? What are your favorite foods and would you like to help

in planning and preparing them? " My advise if my guess is even just a little

acurate would be to find out what the root of the problem is... I would guess it

may not even be the food but somthing else that they can not control.... eating

is one of the few things kids this age do have power over so here is where they

exert it.. It could be sothething else like maybe by not eating they get more

attention, or maybe taking a long time they will get more time with you. Maybe

they know if they don't eat it they will get somthing else ( becuase you fear

they will starve). If they are just more interested in playing or doing somthing

else than eating perhaps you can make

eating the ticket to do that or set up a reward system where by eating they can

earn more time doing those things or X number of good meals earns getting more

legos.

 

 

 

If it is indeed the food try and find out what bothers them about the food....

often kids will not eat for silly reasons like the arrangement of it on the

plate, the shape, the color, perhaps they like more seasoning.. or less

seasoning. When my kids were younger I couldn't get them to drink orange

juice... for my older one I started freezing it into popsicles and suddenly she

couldn't get enough. For my younger one it turned out that he didn't like pulp,

so I got a pulp free kind and now he's fine. Also, both of them have favorite

brands of products that they like, when I can find them that helps a lot.

 

I also try and get creative with the food, for some reason them choosing how the

sandwich is cut changes their " ability " to eat it. It's amazing how almost

anything cut with a cookie cutter goes down much easier. Foods that can be eaten

with fingers (forgoing forks and spoons) get past easier.themed meals such as

only yhings that start with " B " , or creating pictures on the plate or foods

served in edible bowls ( try green pepper bowls, lettuce wraps, stuffed pita

bread, things served in bread bowls or taco shells instead of on a plate.) some

times we have mac and chreeze surprise where I will hide somthing under the

pasta. They know there is somthing but the fun is finding it... and then they

eat more than just the pasta. This can be done with lots of other things as

well. Let them create their own combinations..some of the things my kids come up

with I would have nver thought of but if they do... they like it and I have a

clue to whta they like. This is how I discovered my son liked

peanut butter and cheese sandwitches. And both of them do not like to eat deli

or cheese slices on sandwiches but they will eat them separate from the bread.

or rolled in a tortilla.

 

 

Things that can be dipped are fun, and smoothies can be both healthy and fun.

Smoothies can also be frozen to make popsicles. Freeze fruit.

 

Serve food on novelty dishes or try eating it a different way, like with

chopsticks, or toothpicks, or drink soups or cereal from a cup instead of a

bowl. Use crazy straws. perhaps let them make or personalize their own dishes (

at a ceramics shop or they have kits in which you can have their drawings made

into dishwear.) decorate the outside of cups with stickers. My kids favorite

cups are the type where the core opens up and they can color the insert ( often

used as parent gifts from school).

 

In other words try to make meal times as exciting as possible so that they will

want to be a part of it.

 

 

 

I hope some of these suggestions help... good luck.

 

 

 

Debbie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't understand what all the hub bub is about making kids eat.

 

Forcing kids to eat when they aren't hungry, bribing them or offering rewards

are all setting them for eating disorders.

 

Growing up, my sister brother and I were all encouraged to EAT, EAT, EAT, so we

did. We were told that if we ate all of our food, then we would get to make our

own sundaes and the ones who ate the most food were praised beyond belief!!

That may not sound bad to most of you, but my brother and I both have eating

disorders!=

 

Kids should be allowed to eat when they are hungry and what they are hungry for,

now, I am not saying to let them live on chocolate ice cream, it should be done

within reason.

 

If your kids don't like what you made or they just aren't hungry for that, then

what is the big deal over letting them get some soy or regular cheese, make a

peanut butter and jelly sandwich, snack on some veggies or heat up a frozen meal

for them?

 

If they are snackers, then be grateful, that is the healthy way to be, as long

as they snacking they are doing is healthy and not potato chips and candy bars.

 

While in LLL, one of the leaders lent this advice for parents of picky eaters.

She said to make up a plate of healthy foods that your kids will eat, let them

have easy access to it and then you will know that they are getting enough.

 

Our kids have access to nuts, carrots, soy cheese, soy yogurt and peanut butter

whenever they want, if they aren't hungry at dinner time, then they don't have

to eat, we do have them sit at the table with us though. We do ask that they

taste everything, my two year old will eat anything, my four year old is alot

pickier. If either of them doesn't like what we are having and they are hungry,

then I will make them an alternative, but they usually have to wait until I am

done eating to do it.

 

Think about how you would feel if you went to eat somewhere and you were served

a hamburger. What if you had to sit there until your plate was clean and they

refused to serve you anything else? You wouldn't like it, so why do it to your

kids? They are people too and their likes and dislikes deserve as much respect

and consideration as yours, just because they are smaller doesn't mean that

their voice shouldn't count.

 

Sara

 

 

-

Sarah Glenn

Thursday, September 02, 2004 10:58 AM

RE: Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

My daughter is doing this too.

 

So instead of throwing her dinner away, we put it in the microwave and if

shes hungry she can finish it.

 

She would rather have snacks all day instead of meals.

 

 

 

Sarah

 

Mommy to:

 

Alexin~ my big 3 year old

 

Homebirthing momma to Cameron~9 months

 

_____

 

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Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:17 AM

Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

 

My current food problem with my daughter is that we will make a meal

that I KNOW that she likes. She will eat a few small bites then say

she is full. I will try to get her to eat more but at most will coax

one more bite out of her. Then, about 10 minutes after I have

cleaned up her plate she will say she is hungry and wants a snack or

desert. Erghhhh! If she didnt eat good I will say no desert, but

she spends the whole night after that complaining that she is

hungry. I will try and fix her a healthy snack but still it is

frustrating because I know that she liked the dinner, she just

wouldnt eat it.

 

 

 

 

 

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I have not posted for a very long time, but I had to respond to this post

because I am in the same situation. My son is 3 and as a infant he almost

inhaled food. Over the past year or so, however, he seems to have lost interest

in food. At most meals he will take one or two bites and then announce, " I'm

all done. " He exists almost entirely on pasta, bread or muffins (but only

certain kinds), and mac & cheese, and fake chicken nuggets. No beans (except

for a little bit of refried beans), no tofu, etc. He would be happy if we

simply let him drink (juice or chocoate soy milk), and he often fills up on that

and then does not eat. I think he might do better grazing, but that just

doesn't work most of the time. He is in daycare, and they are not going to let

him do that. Also, the snacks they provide tend to be on the unhealthy side,

but he wants those and not the healthy snacks we send. I have given up on that

as they just come home uneaten. He is 3-years-old and weighs 27 lbs. 2T pants

fall off of him because he has no waist to hold them up. He is immune to all

threats, bribes, incentives, whatever. The only vegetable he will eat is an

occasional carrot. As for fruit - sometimes he will eat some apple or a banana

or grape, but that's about it. Recently, he has announced, with his head on his

hand in the highchair, " I'm a very tired boy. " Well, he goes to bed around 8,

but is still wide awake2-3 hours later. He stays in bed, but does not fall

asleep. Apparently he is not napping much at daycare either ( he used to be a

very reliable 2-hour napper). So, by dinner he is almost falling asleep in his

plate, but then he is still awake at 11:00.

 

It is very frustrating. The doctor said that he is between 10-25% for weight,

and although he had dropped off from the previous year, the doctor chalked it up

to 3-year-olds being notoriously bad eaters. I'm concerned not only about the

amount he eats, but also the lack of variety. I've tried letting him help me

cook, but then when I give him the food he says he doesn't want it. What is

also annoying is that after he has taken his bite or two, he wants to get down.

We won't let him do that, so dinner time consists of him pestering to get down

and looking miserable.

 

Karen

 

 

-

Terry Somerson

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:19 PM

Re: Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

Friends who have heard me talk about my son's pickiness but have never

witnessed it firsthand are amazed when they sit down to share a meal with us at

his complete lack of interest in anything I put in front of him to eat. And I

mean almost a militant refusal to eat one single thing on his plate.

 

He has never been an enthusiastic eater, but he has gotten much more extreme

in the past couple of years -- he just turned five. I can sometimes get him to

eat a little breakfast (cereal or toast) or a bit of a peanut butter sandwich or

baked tofu for lunch. But he seldom eats anything for dinner, even though I

make him sit down with my husband and me, and serve him whatever we are eating.

If he had his way, he would not even come to the table; he'd much rather stay in

his room playing with his dinosaurs or Legos. Though I believe strongly that my

son should eat what is being served, I often give in and coax him to eat a

mouthful of yogurt or a corner of a piece of bread, but that's about it at

dinnertime. Although he is proud to be a vegetarian, he wants no part of the

wholesome, delicious veggie meals I cook. And if there is something he tells me

he likes, he *never* takes more than two or three tiny bites.

 

As an infant, he tried all kinds of foods -- homemade baby foods, tofu,

fruits, vegetables, cereals. Now, at five, he is severely underweight but

healthy and extremely active and full of energy. I've read all the books,

consulted four different nutritionists and countless doctors, cajoled, begged,

pleaded, and bribed to try to get my son to eat. At this point, I have decided

not to stress about it any more. I make sure he gets a good multivitamin and

beyond that I simply cannot force him to eat. I continue to send a lunchbox

full of healthy food to school with him each morning, and most of it comes back

untouched. I worry about his weight and his lack of interest in food, even

foods that picky eaters are supposed to love.

 

I suppose I'd say that the one thing I will not relent on is that my son must

come to the table and join his dad and me, even if he does not want to eat. I

figure that eventually he will give in and try the food and maybe over time he

will decide he wants to eat with us. We just keep making up the plate for my son

each night, and our two very happy dogs sit under the table at his feet, waiting

patiently.

 

Terry

 

 

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I think that most of us who populate this list are educated enough to understand

the risks of putting pressure on our children to eat.

 

I was one of the posters who expressed frustration and some resignation at my

son's lack of interest in food. While I have never " forced " him to eat, I have

tried lots of different methods of getting him to eat, and his refusal to eat

has been a huge issue that hovers over our household at all times. In our case,

my son has been off the bottom of the weight chart since he turned one. At five

years old, he weighs about 29 pounds and wears size 2T pants. As his growth

began to slow down at 12 months, we took the advice of his pediatrician and

began a long, long journey of medical exploration to try to discover why he has

such an aversion to food. Because my son is adopted and we have virtually no

information about his biological lineage, my husband and I were understandably

worried. I will not recap everything we've been through in the last four years,

and are still going through, but believe me, if it had been as easy as " letting

him get some soy cheese.... " etc., I would have been delighted.

 

I appreciate all the suggestions regarding making food a game, offering choices,

hiding things in the food, and so on. I've tried everything and more. My son

loves the games, as long as they don't have to end with him actually eating the

food.

 

Please understand that I and other parents who are in similar situations are not

simply talking about our kids missing an occasional meal. If only that were the

case.

 

Terry

-

Sara

Friday, September 03, 2004 5:49 PM

Re: Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

I don't understand what all the hub bub is about making kids eat.

 

Forcing kids to eat when they aren't hungry, bribing them or offering rewards

are all setting them for eating disorders.

 

Growing up, my sister brother and I were all encouraged to EAT, EAT, EAT, so

we did. We were told that if we ate all of our food, then we would get to make

our own sundaes and the ones who ate the most food were praised beyond belief!!

That may not sound bad to most of you, but my brother and I both have eating

disorders!=

 

Kids should be allowed to eat when they are hungry and what they are hungry

for, now, I am not saying to let them live on chocolate ice cream, it should be

done within reason.

 

If your kids don't like what you made or they just aren't hungry for that,

then what is the big deal over letting them get some soy or regular cheese, make

a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, snack on some veggies or heat up a frozen

meal for them?

 

If they are snackers, then be grateful, that is the healthy way to be, as long

as they snacking they are doing is healthy and not potato chips and candy bars.

 

While in LLL, one of the leaders lent this advice for parents of picky eaters.

She said to make up a plate of healthy foods that your kids will eat, let them

have easy access to it and then you will know that they are getting enough.

 

Our kids have access to nuts, carrots, soy cheese, soy yogurt and peanut

butter whenever they want, if they aren't hungry at dinner time, then they don't

have to eat, we do have them sit at the table with us though. We do ask that

they taste everything, my two year old will eat anything, my four year old is

alot pickier. If either of them doesn't like what we are having and they are

hungry, then I will make them an alternative, but they usually have to wait

until I am done eating to do it.

 

Think about how you would feel if you went to eat somewhere and you were

served a hamburger. What if you had to sit there until your plate was clean and

they refused to serve you anything else? You wouldn't like it, so why do it to

your kids? They are people too and their likes and dislikes deserve as much

respect and consideration as yours, just because they are smaller doesn't mean

that their voice shouldn't count.

 

Sara

 

 

 

 

 

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Karen,

 

Sounds very familiar, especially the part about your son going to bed and still

being awake hours later. Because my son eats so little, my husband and I

sometimes look at each other as our child is lying in his bed with lights out,

singing, thrashing around, petting the cat, whatever, and say " how in the world

does he get the energy to do this? " Especially if we ourselves are exhausted

from chasing him around all day.

 

I don't know what to tell you except that your doctor will most likely let you

know what he or she thinks and make some sort of recommendation for further

investigation if it is deemed necessary (I hope it isn't). My son has been

through several years' worth of medical diagnostics, and we are still looking --

next step will be endocrine and genetic testing. The day care component makes

things tricky, and we had a similar situation but like you I relaxed my

standards and let my son eat the snacks the provider offered, though I continued

to send his lunch with him. It's very tough.

 

Clothes are always a problem. Try the slim jeans from the Gap, which have an

adjustable waist. It's the only thing that has worked for us, because the 2T

pants that fit him in the waist and the seat are too short. If you've found

other slim-cut pants, I'd love to know where I can get them.

 

Good luck....

 

Terry

-

Karen Detling

Monday, September 06, 2004 7:23 PM

Re: Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

I have not posted for a very long time, but I had to respond to this post

because I am in the same situation. My son is 3 and as a infant he almost

inhaled food. Over the past year or so, however, he seems to have lost interest

in food. At most meals he will take one or two bites and then announce, " I'm

all done. " He exists almost entirely on pasta, bread or muffins (but only

certain kinds), and mac & cheese, and fake chicken nuggets. No beans (except

for a little bit of refried beans), no tofu, etc. He would be happy if we

simply let him drink (juice or chocoate soy milk), and he often fills up on that

and then does not eat. I think he might do better grazing, but that just

doesn't work most of the time. He is in daycare, and they are not going to let

him do that. Also, the snacks they provide tend to be on the unhealthy side,

but he wants those and not the healthy snacks we send. I have given up on that

as they just come home uneaten. He is 3-years-old and weighs 27 lbs. 2T pants

fall off of him because he has no waist to hold them up. He is immune to all

threats, bribes, incentives, whatever. The only vegetable he will eat is an

occasional carrot. As for fruit - sometimes he will eat some apple or a banana

or grape, but that's about it. Recently, he has announced, with his head on his

hand in the highchair, " I'm a very tired boy. " Well, he goes to bed around 8,

but is still wide awake2-3 hours later. He stays in bed, but does not fall

asleep. Apparently he is not napping much at daycare either ( he used to be a

very reliable 2-hour napper). So, by dinner he is almost falling asleep in his

plate, but then he is still awake at 11:00.

 

It is very frustrating. The doctor said that he is between 10-25% for weight,

and although he had dropped off from the previous year, the doctor chalked it up

to 3-year-olds being notoriously bad eaters. I'm concerned not only about the

amount he eats, but also the lack of variety. I've tried letting him help me

cook, but then when I give him the food he says he doesn't want it. What is

also annoying is that after he has taken his bite or two, he wants to get down.

We won't let him do that, so dinner time consists of him pestering to get down

and looking miserable.

 

Karen

 

 

-

Terry Somerson

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:19 PM

Re: Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

Friends who have heard me talk about my son's pickiness but have never

witnessed it firsthand are amazed when they sit down to share a meal with us at

his complete lack of interest in anything I put in front of him to eat. And I

mean almost a militant refusal to eat one single thing on his plate.

 

He has never been an enthusiastic eater, but he has gotten much more extreme

in the past couple of years -- he just turned five. I can sometimes get him to

eat a little breakfast (cereal or toast) or a bit of a peanut butter sandwich or

baked tofu for lunch. But he seldom eats anything for dinner, even though I

make him sit down with my husband and me, and serve him whatever we are eating.

If he had his way, he would not even come to the table; he'd much rather stay in

his room playing with his dinosaurs or Legos. Though I believe strongly that my

son should eat what is being served, I often give in and coax him to eat a

mouthful of yogurt or a corner of a piece of bread, but that's about it at

dinnertime. Although he is proud to be a vegetarian, he wants no part of the

wholesome, delicious veggie meals I cook. And if there is something he tells me

he likes, he *never* takes more than two or three tiny bites.

 

As an infant, he tried all kinds of foods -- homemade baby foods, tofu,

fruits, vegetables, cereals. Now, at five, he is severely underweight but

healthy and extremely active and full of energy. I've read all the books,

consulted four different nutritionists and countless doctors, cajoled, begged,

pleaded, and bribed to try to get my son to eat. At this point, I have decided

not to stress about it any more. I make sure he gets a good multivitamin and

beyond that I simply cannot force him to eat. I continue to send a lunchbox

full of healthy food to school with him each morning, and most of it comes back

untouched. I worry about his weight and his lack of interest in food, even

foods that picky eaters are supposed to love.

 

I suppose I'd say that the one thing I will not relent on is that my son

must come to the table and join his dad and me, even if he does not want to eat.

I figure that eventually he will give in and try the food and maybe over time he

will decide he wants to eat with us. We just keep making up the plate for my son

each night, and our two very happy dogs sit under the table at his feet, waiting

patiently.

 

Terry

 

 

 

 

 

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I hope that you understand that my frustration was directed to those who are

worried about their kids eating enough, I am sorry if you felt that way. It is

towards those who do try to force their kids to eat stuff that they don't like

or try to force them to eat when they aren't hungry, or don't let them eat when

they are hungry. Too many people don't know how to listen to their biological

hunger cues and it starts with the forcing of food.

 

For your son, have you tried any high calorie shakes, just to get him up in

weight? You can mix in fruit if he likes it. Are there any foods that he will

eat?

 

Sara

 

 

-

Terry Somerson

Tuesday, September 07, 2004 9:29 PM

Re: Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

I think that most of us who populate this list are educated enough to

understand the risks of putting pressure on our children to eat.

 

I was one of the posters who expressed frustration and some resignation at my

son's lack of interest in food. While I have never " forced " him to eat, I have

tried lots of different methods of getting him to eat, and his refusal to eat

has been a huge issue that hovers over our household at all times. In our case,

my son has been off the bottom of the weight chart since he turned one. At five

years old, he weighs about 29 pounds and wears size 2T pants. As his growth

began to slow down at 12 months, we took the advice of his pediatrician and

began a long, long journey of medical exploration to try to discover why he has

such an aversion to food. Because my son is adopted and we have virtually no

information about his biological lineage, my husband and I were understandably

worried. I will not recap everything we've been through in the last four years,

and are still going through, but believe me, if it had been as easy as " letting

him get some soy cheese.... " etc., I would have been delighted.

 

I appreciate all the suggestions regarding making food a game, offering

choices, hiding things in the food, and so on. I've tried everything and more.

My son loves the games, as long as they don't have to end with him actually

eating the food.

 

Please understand that I and other parents who are in similar situations are

not simply talking about our kids missing an occasional meal. If only that were

the case.

 

Terry

-

Sara

Friday, September 03, 2004 5:49 PM

Re: Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

I don't understand what all the hub bub is about making kids eat.

 

Forcing kids to eat when they aren't hungry, bribing them or offering

rewards are all setting them for eating disorders.

 

Growing up, my sister brother and I were all encouraged to EAT, EAT, EAT, so

we did. We were told that if we ate all of our food, then we would get to make

our own sundaes and the ones who ate the most food were praised beyond belief!!

That may not sound bad to most of you, but my brother and I both have eating

disorders!=

 

Kids should be allowed to eat when they are hungry and what they are hungry

for, now, I am not saying to let them live on chocolate ice cream, it should be

done within reason.

 

If your kids don't like what you made or they just aren't hungry for that,

then what is the big deal over letting them get some soy or regular cheese, make

a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, snack on some veggies or heat up a frozen

meal for them?

 

If they are snackers, then be grateful, that is the healthy way to be, as

long as they snacking they are doing is healthy and not potato chips and candy

bars.

 

While in LLL, one of the leaders lent this advice for parents of picky

eaters. She said to make up a plate of healthy foods that your kids will eat,

let them have easy access to it and then you will know that they are getting

enough.

 

Our kids have access to nuts, carrots, soy cheese, soy yogurt and peanut

butter whenever they want, if they aren't hungry at dinner time, then they don't

have to eat, we do have them sit at the table with us though. We do ask that

they taste everything, my two year old will eat anything, my four year old is

alot pickier. If either of them doesn't like what we are having and they are

hungry, then I will make them an alternative, but they usually have to wait

until I am done eating to do it.

 

Think about how you would feel if you went to eat somewhere and you were

served a hamburger. What if you had to sit there until your plate was clean and

they refused to serve you anything else? You wouldn't like it, so why do it to

your kids? They are people too and their likes and dislikes deserve as much

respect and consideration as yours, just because they are smaller doesn't mean

that their voice shouldn't count.

 

Sara

 

 

 

 

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Hi Karen,

 

My 3yo is only 28lbs (and just hit that milestone about a month ago). My

Dr. says he is very healthy. He also doesn't like veggies or fruit much. I

do my best to get a little bit of them into him but mostly I try to get him

to eat the few things he does like that are nutritious because he is

EXTREMELY stubborn and it is nearly impossible to get him to do anything he

doesn't want to. He is my third so I've had experience with kids being

willful but he also have food allergies so I don't like to push too much

just in case he is avoiding something he has an allergy to.

 

We take tucks in his elastic waisted pants so that they don't fall down. :)

He also has energy to burn although he does still nap at daycare. He is

often awake until 11pm at night. I was the same way as a kid though, both

about food and sleep. I'm now 5'8 " would love to drop about 10lbs but still

am not much of a sleeper. ;)

 

Jacqueline

 

-

" Terry Somerson " <terry

 

Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:46 PM

Re: Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

> Karen,

>

> Sounds very familiar, especially the part about your son going to bed and

still being awake hours later. Because my son eats so little, my husband

and I sometimes look at each other as our child is lying in his bed with

lights out, singing, thrashing around, petting the cat, whatever, and say

" how in the world does he get the energy to do this? " Especially if we

ourselves are exhausted from chasing him around all day.

>

> I don't know what to tell you except that your doctor will most likely let

you know what he or she thinks and make some sort of recommendation for

further investigation if it is deemed necessary (I hope it isn't). My son

has been through several years' worth of medical diagnostics, and we are

still looking -- next step will be endocrine and genetic testing. The day

care component makes things tricky, and we had a similar situation but like

you I relaxed my standards and let my son eat the snacks the provider

offered, though I continued to send his lunch with him. It's very tough.

>

> Clothes are always a problem. Try the slim jeans from the Gap, which have

an adjustable waist. It's the only thing that has worked for us, because

the 2T pants that fit him in the waist and the seat are too short. If

you've found other slim-cut pants, I'd love to know where I can get them.

>

> Good luck....

>

> Terry

> -

> Karen Detling

>

> Monday, September 06, 2004 7:23 PM

> Re: Re: Kids 'n' foods

>

>

> I have not posted for a very long time, but I had to respond to this

post because I am in the same situation. My son is 3 and as a infant he

almost inhaled food. Over the past year or so, however, he seems to have

lost interest in food. At most meals he will take one or two bites and then

announce, " I'm all done. " He exists almost entirely on pasta, bread or

muffins (but only certain kinds), and mac & cheese, and fake chicken nuggets.

No beans (except for a little bit of refried beans), no tofu, etc. He would

be happy if we simply let him drink (juice or chocoate soy milk), and he

often fills up on that and then does not eat. I think he might do better

grazing, but that just doesn't work most of the time. He is in daycare, and

they are not going to let him do that. Also, the snacks they provide tend

to be on the unhealthy side, but he wants those and not the healthy snacks

we send. I have given up on that as they just come home uneaten. He is

3-years-old and weighs 27 lbs. 2T pants fall off of him because he has no

waist to hold them up. He is immune to all threats, bribes, incentives,

whatever. The only vegetable he will eat is an occasional carrot. As for

fruit - sometimes he will eat some apple or a banana or grape, but that's

about it. Recently, he has announced, with his head on his hand in the

highchair, " I'm a very tired boy. " Well, he goes to bed around 8, but is

still wide awake2-3 hours later. He stays in bed, but does not fall asleep.

Apparently he is not napping much at daycare either ( he used to be a very

reliable 2-hour napper). So, by dinner he is almost falling asleep in his

plate, but then he is still awake at 11:00.

>

> It is very frustrating. The doctor said that he is between 10-25% for

weight, and although he had dropped off from the previous year, the doctor

chalked it up to 3-year-olds being notoriously bad eaters. I'm concerned

not only about the amount he eats, but also the lack of variety. I've tried

letting him help me cook, but then when I give him the food he says he

doesn't want it. What is also annoying is that after he has taken his bite

or two, he wants to get down. We won't let him do that, so dinner time

consists of him pestering to get down and looking miserable.

>

> Karen

>

>

> -

> Terry Somerson

>

> Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:19 PM

> Re: Re: Kids 'n' foods

>

>

> Friends who have heard me talk about my son's pickiness but have never

witnessed it firsthand are amazed when they sit down to share a meal with us

at his complete lack of interest in anything I put in front of him to eat.

And I mean almost a militant refusal to eat one single thing on his plate.

>

> He has never been an enthusiastic eater, but he has gotten much more

extreme in the past couple of years -- he just turned five. I can sometimes

get him to eat a little breakfast (cereal or toast) or a bit of a peanut

butter sandwich or baked tofu for lunch. But he seldom eats anything for

dinner, even though I make him sit down with my husband and me, and serve

him whatever we are eating. If he had his way, he would not even come to

the table; he'd much rather stay in his room playing with his dinosaurs or

Legos. Though I believe strongly that my son should eat what is being

served, I often give in and coax him to eat a mouthful of yogurt or a corner

of a piece of bread, but that's about it at dinnertime. Although he is

proud to be a vegetarian, he wants no part of the wholesome, delicious

veggie meals I cook. And if there is something he tells me he likes, he

*never* takes more than two or three tiny bites.

>

> As an infant, he tried all kinds of foods -- homemade baby foods,

tofu, fruits, vegetables, cereals. Now, at five, he is severely underweight

but healthy and extremely active and full of energy. I've read all the

books, consulted four different nutritionists and countless doctors,

cajoled, begged, pleaded, and bribed to try to get my son to eat. At this

point, I have decided not to stress about it any more. I make sure he gets

a good multivitamin and beyond that I simply cannot force him to eat. I

continue to send a lunchbox full of healthy food to school with him each

morning, and most of it comes back untouched. I worry about his weight and

his lack of interest in food, even foods that picky eaters are supposed to

love.

>

> I suppose I'd say that the one thing I will not relent on is that my

son must come to the table and join his dad and me, even if he does not want

to eat. I figure that eventually he will give in and try the food and maybe

over time he will decide he wants to eat with us. We just keep making up the

plate for my son each night, and our two very happy dogs sit under the table

at his feet, waiting patiently.

>

> Terry

>

>

>

>

>

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Karen,

I have a seven-year-old daughter who weighs 34 pounds. She gains about 2

pounds every year (the norm as I've been told by several nutrition experts

and her pediatrician is between 2 - 4 lbs) and grows about an inch or two

taller. She doesn't eat very much and would love to not eat at all if she

could get away with it. I try to give her things I know she will like but

even with that she only eats what seems to be enough to keep a sparrow

alive. I keep healthy and calorie dense snacks available for her all the

time but she doesn't want much of them. We did testing on her in 2000 and

found nothing physical that would cause any eating problem for her. When

she was six, we almost went through it all over again because she complained

about her stomach hurting every time she ate. What stopped us was finding

out that she was using this to not have to eat. She has tons of energy and

is healthy and vibrant. She has outgrown the asthma she had had since birth

and is very active. Her ped is not worried about her because she is healthy

and is following her own growth curve. You mentioned that your son's growth

had slowed when he was two. Is he following his own curve now? The growth

charts are good, basic guidelines, but because everyone is different there

are some they just don't apply to. My understanding is that as long as they

are healthy and following their own growth curve, there is no need to worry

about children who are not growing according to the growth charts. I do

make sure that my DD takes vitamins (Animal Friends) to try to get the

nutrients I don't think she gets due to her eating habits.

 

One thing I also found out is that some children just will not eat because

it is a form of control that is within their power. They have so little

control over and in their lives and this is one way that they can exercise

it. The same thing can apply to potty training too.

 

None of this may have anything to do with what your DS is going through, but

I thought I'd pass it along in case it might.

 

One thing you might find happening is what is happening to my DD now. She

is in 2nd grade. She found that last year and this year she was

significantly smaller than the other kids in her class. They comment about

it as kids will do - as well as some adults. They tend to treat her like a

little baby and she hates this. While it only mildly bothered her last year

it is bothering her quite a bit more this year. Her appetite is starting to

pick up, albeit not in leaps and bounds but it is picking up - because she

doesn't want to be small any more. She may just be a small person for the

rest of her life in which case she will have to come to grips with that but

an increase in her appetite at this point cannot hurt. My sister-in-law is

only 4'9 " . Some people are just small and function just fine all their

lives.

 

As far as clothing goes, I can totally relate to your problem. My DD could

easily fit into 2Ts - 3Ts but then they would be too short on her. I end up

sewing many of her clothes and custom fitting them to her. If I buy some, I

buy ones that can easily be taken in.

 

Take Care.

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

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Sara,

 

Thanks for your response. I was having a bad day -- a big part of dealing with

my son's eating situation is managing my own stress about it. Sometimes I don't

do a very good job of it.

 

As for the suggestion of high-calorie shakes, thanks, but my son will not eat or

drink anything like that. He does not like flavored shakes, smoothies, or

juices with supplements added to them. He can always detect anything I've put

in a drink to add calories or nutritives and he will not consume it. I've even

tried powders that the nutritionists claimed were impossible to taste once they

were dissolved and my son can always find them.

 

My son will not eat foods that most kids inhale -- like pizza, macaroni and

cheese, cake and ice cream, and most cookies, muffins, cupcakes, etc. He does

not eat most fruits, vegetables, pastas, cereals, beans, salad, potatos, grains,

or soy products with the exception of a little baked tofu now and then. He will

sometimes eat a little plain spaghetti with no sauce on it, and when I say " a

little " I mean about five strands. Sometimes he'll eat a couple of canned

mandarin oranges. If the moon and stars are in alignment he'll eat about ten

peanuts or a handful of sunflower seeds. But nothing consistently or willingly.

 

I keep offering the food, playing the games, reading the books, and talking to

the doctors, but not too much has changed since my son's weight issues first

surfaced four years ago.

 

Terry

 

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Sara

Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:24 AM

Re: Re: Kids 'n' foods

 

 

I hope that you understand that my frustration was directed to those who are

worried about their kids eating enough, I am sorry if you felt that way. It is

towards those who do try to force their kids to eat stuff that they don't like

or try to force them to eat when they aren't hungry, or don't let them eat when

they are hungry. Too many people don't know how to listen to their biological

hunger cues and it starts with the forcing of food.

 

For your son, have you tried any high calorie shakes, just to get him up in

weight? You can mix in fruit if he likes it. Are there any foods that he will

eat?

 

Sara

 

 

 

 

 

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