Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Hi Fran and all, I was curious about your comment on not giving too much soy milk. I have an 8 month old son who is currently breastfed but also gets a small supplement of dairy formula once a day. I've been thinking about what to do when he is old enough for milk (dairy vs. soy). My husband and I are both vegan, and we would ethically prefer to give him a non-dairy milk, but I have some instinctual issues with giving him too much soy that I am trying to explore. He is getting the dairy formula supplement because the soy formula did not seem to sit well with him (gassiness). I guess what I'm saying is that I really want him to be vegan, but with all of the anti-soy information I have been reading lately, I'm just not sure what is best for him. If it may be a health issue down the road, I'd rather give him an organic dairy milk, but...dairy brings its own problems, health-wise and ethically speaking, for us. Does anyone have any further info on soy milk for very young ones? Thanks! Sorry to ramble. Cheers, Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Try some of the nut milks or rice milk. They even make rice cheese. My girls get one cup each per day of soy milk and after that it's either water or calcium o.j. I do try to use a bit of nut or rice milk in a smoothie for them too. Good Luck. Kelly Amy Nylund <austinvegan wrote: Hi Fran and all, I was curious about your comment on not giving too much soy milk. I have an 8 month old son who is currently breastfed but also gets a small supplement of dairy formula once a day. I've been thinking about what to do when he is old enough for milk (dairy vs. soy). My husband and I are both vegan, and we would ethically prefer to give him a non-dairy milk, but I have some instinctual issues with giving him too much soy that I am trying to explore. He is getting the dairy formula supplement because the soy formula did not seem to sit well with him (gassiness). I guess what I'm saying is that I really want him to be vegan, but with all of the anti-soy information I have been reading lately, I'm just not sure what is best for him. If it may be a health issue down the road, I'd rather give him an organic dairy milk, but...dairy brings its own problems, health-wise and ethically speaking, for us. Does anyone have any further info on soy milk for very young ones? Thanks! Sorry to ramble. Cheers, Amy For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 After 12 months of age you can give your child rice milk, almond milk, etc. Before 12 months children need breastmilk or formula. I always gave my daughter soy formula when I started supplementing breastmilk and when I stopped breastfeeding also. It probably gave her gas but I breastfed because I believe cow milk is for cow's babies not human babies.. i wasn't about to give her a cowmilk based formula. --- Amy Nylund <austinvegan wrote: > > Hi Fran and all, > I was curious about your comment on not giving too > much soy milk. I have an 8 month old son who is > currently breastfed but also gets a small supplement > of dairy formula once a day. I've been thinking > about > what to do when he is old enough for milk (dairy vs. > soy). My husband and I are both vegan, and we would > ethically prefer to give him a non-dairy milk, but I > have some instinctual issues with giving him too > much > soy that I am trying to explore. He is getting the > dairy formula supplement because the soy formula did > not seem to sit well with him (gassiness). > > I guess what I'm saying is that I really want him to > be vegan, but with all of the anti-soy information I > have been reading lately, I'm just not sure what is > best for him. If it may be a health issue down the > road, I'd rather give him an organic dairy milk, > but...dairy brings its own problems, health-wise and > ethically speaking, for us. > > Does anyone have any further info on soy milk for > very > young ones? > > Thanks! Sorry to ramble. > Cheers, > Amy > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > The all-new My - What will yours do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 For me, my decision is based on instinct, not fact. I have read different info either from this group or Mothering magazine but it came down really to a 'feeling'. For a while we were eating tofu and having soy in a variety of forms including meat-type products, puddings, cheeses, nuts, milk, granola, bread etc. It just did not seem natural or healthy to consume so much of one product. So, I simply attempted to limit not cut out soy. An easy way to do this was (for me) was by using rice or almond or oat milk instead of soy. I also did things like start to make our own pudding from mixes using rice milk and switch to other nuts. It just feels better to me. My son will still have soy milk from time to time-I'm not worried about it I just prefer to limit it. FWIW, :)Madeline >Amy Nylund <austinvegan > > > Soy milk for little ones >Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:17:57 -0800 (PST) > > >Hi Fran and all, >I was curious about your comment on not giving too >much soy milk. I have an 8 month old son who is >currently breastfed but also gets a small supplement >of dairy formula once a day. I've been thinking about >what to do when he is old enough for milk (dairy vs. >soy). My husband and I are both vegan, and we would >ethically prefer to give him a non-dairy milk, but I >have some instinctual issues with giving him too much >soy that I am trying to explore. He is getting the >dairy formula supplement because the soy formula did >not seem to sit well with him (gassiness). > >I guess what I'm saying is that I really want him to >be vegan, but with all of the anti-soy information I >have been reading lately, I'm just not sure what is >best for him. If it may be a health issue down the >road, I'd rather give him an organic dairy milk, >but...dairy brings its own problems, health-wise and >ethically speaking, for us. > >Does anyone have any further info on soy milk for very >young ones? > >Thanks! Sorry to ramble. >Cheers, >Amy > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Amy, I would suggest almond milk or rice milk. Try almond first since it's really a fruit and prob. will be tolerated much easier. I nursed my son without any supplementation. Then to water. He got occasional juice and almond milk then rice milk introduced into rotation as new foods. That's my 2 cents. Peace, Laura austinvegan writes: Does anyone have any further info on soy milk for very young ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Hi Renee, Thanks for your input. Cowmilk based formula was not our ideal, but after marathon struggles with breastfeeding (milk supply issues) that took months to work out, my main concern was getting weight put on my baby. I didn't elaborate on the way he reacted to the soy formula, but it was clearly hard on his system and not something I felt comfortable continuing. Before all of this happened we were excited and determined to maintain a vegan house, and it was a very hard decision to go with the dairy formula. I'm saying all of this because your comment " i wasn't about to give her a cowmilk based formula. " sounded judgmental, and I think forums like this list are places where we should support one another and not pass judgment. We're all doing the best we can. Take care, Amy Message: 5 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:26:02 -0800 (PST) Renee Carroll <renecarol25 Re: Soy milk for little ones After 12 months of age you can give your child rice milk, almond milk, etc. Before 12 months children need breastmilk or formula. I always gave my daughter soy formula when I started supplementing breastmilk and when I stopped breastfeeding also. It probably gave her gas but I breastfed because I believe cow milk is for cow's babies not human babies.. i wasn't about to give her a cowmilk based formula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 I'm sorry for sounding judgemental. --- Amy Nylund <austinvegan wrote: > > Hi Renee, > Thanks for your input. Cowmilk based formula was not > our ideal, but after marathon struggles with > breastfeeding (milk supply issues) that took months > to > work out, my main concern was getting weight put on > my > baby. I didn't elaborate on the way he reacted to > the > soy formula, but it was clearly hard on his system > and > not something I felt comfortable continuing. Before > all of this happened we were excited and determined > to > maintain a vegan house, and it was a very hard > decision to go with the dairy formula. I'm saying > all > of this because your comment " i wasn't > about to give her a cowmilk based formula. " sounded > judgmental, and I think forums like this list are > places where we should support one another and not > pass judgment. We're all doing the best we can. > Take care, > Amy > > > > Message: 5 > Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:26:02 -0800 (PST) > Renee Carroll <renecarol25 > Re: Soy milk for little ones > > > After 12 months of age you can give your child rice > milk, almond milk, etc. Before 12 months children > need breastmilk or formula. I always gave my > daughter > soy formula when I started supplementing breastmilk > and when I stopped breastfeeding also. It probably > gave her gas but I breastfed because I believe cow > milk is for cow's babies not human babies.. i wasn't > about to give her a cowmilk based formula. > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 A lot of people are allergic to soy or sensitive to it. You did the best you could. Not every woman can breastfeed either. Plenty of friends of mine could not. They gave their babies formula and their kids are fine. My daughter came to me as a foster child and then we later adopted her. I would have loved to breastfeed her, but obviously it was not a choice. She was lactose intolerant so we switched to soy formula. I don't think anyone meant to offend you. That's the type of comment I would make, and I certainly wouldn't say it meaning to offend anyone. Kelly Amy Nylund <austinvegan wrote: Hi Renee, Thanks for your input. Cowmilk based formula was not our ideal, but after marathon struggles with breastfeeding (milk supply issues) that took months to work out, my main concern was getting weight put on my baby. I didn't elaborate on the way he reacted to the soy formula, but it was clearly hard on his system and not something I felt comfortable continuing. Before all of this happened we were excited and determined to maintain a vegan house, and it was a very hard decision to go with the dairy formula. I'm saying all of this because your comment " i wasn't about to give her a cowmilk based formula. " sounded judgmental, and I think forums like this list are places where we should support one another and not pass judgment. We're all doing the best we can. Take care, Amy Message: 5 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:26:02 -0800 (PST) Renee Carroll <renecarol25 Re: Soy milk for little ones After 12 months of age you can give your child rice milk, almond milk, etc. Before 12 months children need breastmilk or formula. I always gave my daughter soy formula when I started supplementing breastmilk and when I stopped breastfeeding also. It probably gave her gas but I breastfed because I believe cow milk is for cow's babies not human babies.. i wasn't about to give her a cowmilk based formula. For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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