Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Angel, My daughter is 2 1/2 and just starting to self-wean. We use soy milk and rice milk as ingredients in things and on cereal but don't drink them by the glass. She doesn't care for them as a beverage and I see no reason to push it. I guess it's part of my vegan philosophy: we are the only species that drinks the milk of another species, and we are the only species that drinks any kind of milk after the age of weaning. (except maybe for domestic cats that get cow milk, but that's off on a tangent.) So I figure, if cow milk is unneccessary for humans, why would it be so important to find a substitute for it? We just don't really drink milk, period. We get our protein and calcium from foods. If I had to wean a child off of breastmilk before three, though, I would use some kind of substitute milk. Would try to find whatever came closest in composition to human milk, probably some kind of animal milk. Haven't looked into it though as that hasn't been our situation. Jen , " Angel " <darranged@f...> wrote: > > > I spent the last few months of my pregnancy on a gestational > diabetes diet so I've become quite fond of Silk Unsweetened Soy > Milk. I, without any help from my family, go through a gallon a > week. > > With a family history of seasonal allergies which I know are > intensified with milk consumption (at least in _my_ body), I > would like to limit my daughter's exposure to cow's milk. (I also > don't trust the modern dairy industry and whatever drugs and > feed they are giving those cows.) > > I am prepared to buy organic milk if I have to, buy I would rather > introduce her to soy milk. > > My baby is still nursing, though she does get about two bottles of > cow's milk based formula a week, so my question isn't one I > need the answer to right now. > > My question is: based on your experience and your research how > do you give your kids " milk. " And if you are vegan, and openly so > with your doctor, what has the response been? > > I've done enough research to know that the dairy industry has > brainwashed us into thinking that we need cow's milk for > calcium. > > I already give my daughter calcium-enriched orange juice and > greens. I have the Calci-yum cookbook and other resources for > vegan cooking, so you don't have to sell me on that. I just have > never seen any info on at what age you can give your child soy > milk and if it should be " limited. " > > And an interesting side note: On the diabetic diet I was on during > pregnancy, I was supposed to have cow's milk twice a day. > When I told my dietician about Unsw. silk, its carb and protein > counts, she said it would qualify as a milk or a protein food. So, I > put a small amount of decaf coffee (an ounce or two) in a glass > and mixed it with 8 oz silk and iced. Mmmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 , " Angel " <darranged@f...> wrote: > I just have > never seen any info on at what age you can give your child soy > milk and if it should be " limited. " > > Sorry, in rereading your post I realize I didn't address yourspecific question. Soy isa common allergen and should not be introduced until at least one year of age (same for wheat, dairy, and peanuts.) Soy has gotten some really bad press lately. I don't believe all the doom and gloom that's been written about it, and I still eat tofu and use some soymilk (love those soy lattes about twice a month) but it may not be a good idea to have tons of soy in the diet. Some vegans use it as almost their only protein source, that probably isn't good. But some soymilk in part of a varied diet should be no problem. Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 With my first child, I told the dr I was vegan and planned for the baby to be too. He asked what I eat and when I told him he said it was ok. I guess because I had a pretty varied and healthy diet. My current baby, 5 months, is on soy formula because I didn't want her to have cows milk. When she is old enough to go off formula, about 1 yr, I will give her soy milk and rice milk. My dr is ok with it. Yesterday he told me in a month we can start meats. I reminded him that we don't do meat and he said, ok tofu then. Angel <darranged wrote: I spent the last few months of my pregnancy on a gestational diabetes diet so I've become quite fond of Silk Unsweetened Soy Milk. I, without any help from my family, go through a gallon a week. With a family history of seasonal allergies which I know are intensified with milk consumption (at least in _my_ body), I would like to limit my daughter's exposure to cow's milk. (I also don't trust the modern dairy industry and whatever drugs and feed they are giving those cows.) I am prepared to buy organic milk if I have to, buy I would rather introduce her to soy milk. My baby is still nursing, though she does get about two bottles of cow's milk based formula a week, so my question isn't one I need the answer to right now. My question is: based on your experience and your research how do you give your kids " milk. " And if you are vegan, and openly so with your doctor, what has the response been? I've done enough research to know that the dairy industry has brainwashed us into thinking that we need cow's milk for calcium. I already give my daughter calcium-enriched orange juice and greens. I have the Calci-yum cookbook and other resources for vegan cooking, so you don't have to sell me on that. I just have never seen any info on at what age you can give your child soy milk and if it should be " limited. " And an interesting side note: On the diabetic diet I was on during pregnancy, I was supposed to have cow's milk twice a day. When I told my dietician about Unsw. silk, its carb and protein counts, she said it would qualify as a milk or a protein food. So, I put a small amount of decaf coffee (an ounce or two) in a glass and mixed it with 8 oz silk and iced. Mmmmm.... For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 There are some people/groups out there that will give anything a bad wrap. I believe that the people who are coming out against soy, and say all the negative things, are funded by the meat and dairy industries. Two industries that have huge bucks. I understand some people are allergic to soy, and they should stay away from soy. Just like the people that are allergic to strawberries (and some people are!!), should stay away from strawberries. Hope this helps, Tracy > What's suppose to happen with too much soy? > > His dr. has always known that's all he drinks and has never been concerned. > And actually, he's had about 3 different dr's and none have thought it was > bad. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 My son is 4 1/2, we are veg not vegan, but my son has always drunk soy formula or milk. He was on soy foormula because he had reflux, then when he was a yr old, I gave him cow's milk and he threw it in the floor. I then tried for a few weeks to get him to drink it by mixing it with his formula. When that didn't work, I tried soy milks, which I just thought were revolting (I also hate cow's milk), until I found one he liked. Later came Silk, which is what we both use now. I've never limited his soy. He drinks a lot of milk and, for a couple of years, ate a lot of Morningstar Farm. He still eats it at least once a week, but he used to eat it at least one meal a day, in some form, but has gotten burned out for now. What's suppose to happen with too much soy? His dr. has always known that's all he drinks and has never been concerned. And actually, he's had about 3 different dr's and none have thought it was bad. So, I guess my response it that he introduced me to soy instead of the other way around. Also, soy milk has iron in it and cow's milk doesn't. BTW, cats shouldn't drink cow's milk. It gives them diarrhea. > I spent the last few months of my pregnancy on a gestational > diabetes diet so I've become quite fond of Silk Unsweetened Soy > Milk. I, without any help from my family, go through a gallon a > week. > > I am prepared to buy organic milk if I have to, buy I would rather > introduce her to soy milk. > > My question is: based on your experience and your research how > do you give your kids " milk. " And if you are vegan, and openly so > with your doctor, what has the response been? > > I already give my daughter calcium-enriched orange juice and > greens. I have the Calci-yum cookbook and other resources for > vegan cooking, so you don't have to sell me on that. I just have > never seen any info on at what age you can give your child soy > milk and if it should be " limited. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 I have two girls 7 and 3. Both have been drinking soymilk since they stopped nursing. They have two to three cups a day. I've had my reservations throughout the years with all the anti-soy information out there. However, there's not enough convincing research to make me switch to cow's milk. They both don't like rice milk, and I feel they need the extra protein. So, soy is really the only choice for us. My oldest daughter's teacher is from Taiwan. She said the main drinks she had as a child are soymilk and water. She never had cow's milk. I'm interested to know how much soy other vegans give their kids. - Christine , -------------- Original message -------------- With my first child, I told the dr I was vegan and planned for the baby to be too. He asked what I eat and when I told him he said it was ok. I guess because I had a pretty varied and healthy diet. My current baby, 5 months, is on soy formula because I didn't want her to have cows milk. When she is old enough to go off formula, about 1 yr, I will give her soy milk and rice milk. My dr is ok with it. Yesterday he told me in a month we can start meats. I reminded him that we don't do meat and he said, ok tofu then. Angel <darranged wrote: I spent the last few months of my pregnancy on a gestational diabetes diet so I've become quite fond of Silk Unsweetened Soy Milk. I, without any help from my family, go through a gallon a week. With a family history of seasonal allergies which I know are intensified with milk consumption (at least in _my_ body), I would like to limit my daughter's exposure to cow's milk. (I also don't trust the modern dairy industry and whatever drugs and feed they are giving those cows.) I am prepared to buy organic milk if I have to, buy I would rather introduce her to soy milk. My baby is still nursing, though she does get about two bottles of cow's milk based formula a week, so my question isn't one I need the answer to right now. My question is: based on your experience and your research how do you give your kids " milk. " And if you are vegan, and openly so with your doctor, what has the response been? I've done enough research to know that the dairy industry has brainwashed us into thinking that we need cow's milk for calcium. I already give my daughter calcium-enriched orange juice and greens. I have the Calci-yum cookbook and other resources for vegan cooking, so you don't have to sell me on that. I just have never seen any info on at what age you can give your child soy milk and if it should be " limited. " And an interesting side note: On the diabetic diet I was on during pregnancy, I was supposed to have cow's milk twice a day. When I told my dietician about Unsw. silk, its carb and protein counts, she said it would qualify as a milk or a protein food. So, I put a small amount of decaf coffee (an ounce or two) in a glass and mixed it with 8 oz silk and iced. Mmmmm.... For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Like everything else eat a varied healthy diet. My girls drink soy milk and have other soy products, but they also get their protein and calcium from other things too. Just as if you were a meat eater you would not eat all steak, all the time. And Tracy is probably right, the anti-soy campaign is probably funded by the meat industry. I used to buy into that anti-soy thing but after doing some research I decided soy in moderation like everything else. Kelly tracyinfo wrote: There are some people/groups out there that will give anything a bad wrap. I believe that the people who are coming out against soy, and say all the negative things, are funded by the meat and dairy industries. Two industries that have huge bucks. I understand some people are allergic to soy, and they should stay away from soy. Just like the people that are allergic to strawberries (and some people are!!), should stay away from strawberries. Hope this helps, Tracy > What's suppose to happen with too much soy? > > His dr. has always known that's all he drinks and has never been concerned. > And actually, he's had about 3 different dr's and none have thought it was > bad. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 I agree, besides don't people in Japan eat tons of soy? I heard that Japanese women don't have hot flashes during menopause because of the soy , tracyinfo@a... wrote: > > There are some people/groups out there that will give anything a bad wrap. I > believe that the people who are coming out against soy, and say all the > negative things, are funded by the meat and dairy industries. Two industries that > have huge bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Christine, My daughter (2.5 years) drinks soy milk almost exclusively. She has juice as well, but throughout the day, she drinks at least 6 glasses of soymilk, and 3 juice. However, she is still drinking out of those really small cups for little kids, so that probably amounts to 3 cups of soymilk. I give her a waterbottle filled with water, for the rest of the day, she can drink out of it at will. We do eat a lot of Tofu and TVP, since my husband doesn't much care for seitan. She seems fine, and so do I. I do try to keep soy in moderation, and not use it in meals all the time, but it is hard, the only other thing we can all agree on is beans and rice, and that gets pretty boring to have all the time. Melanie christinemorrill wrote: I have two girls 7 and 3. Both have been drinking soymilk since they stopped nursing. They have two to three cups a day. I've had my reservations throughout the years with all the anti-soy information out there. However, there's not enough convincing research to make me switch to cow's milk. They both don't like rice milk, and I feel they need the extra protein. So, soy is really the only choice for us. My oldest daughter's teacher is from Taiwan. She said the main drinks she had as a child are soymilk and water. She never had cow's milk. I'm interested to know how much soy other vegans give their kids. - Christine , -------------- Original message -------------- With my first child, I told the dr I was vegan and planned for the baby to be too. He asked what I eat and when I told him he said it was ok. I guess because I had a pretty varied and healthy diet. My current baby, 5 months, is on soy formula because I didn't want her to have cows milk. When she is old enough to go off formula, about 1 yr, I will give her soy milk and rice milk. My dr is ok with it. Yesterday he told me in a month we can start meats. I reminded him that we don't do meat and he said, ok tofu then. Angel <darranged wrote: I spent the last few months of my pregnancy on a gestational diabetes diet so I've become quite fond of Silk Unsweetened Soy Milk. I, without any help from my family, go through a gallon a week. With a family history of seasonal allergies which I know are intensified with milk consumption (at least in _my_ body), I would like to limit my daughter's exposure to cow's milk. (I also don't trust the modern dairy industry and whatever drugs and feed they are giving those cows.) I am prepared to buy organic milk if I have to, buy I would rather introduce her to soy milk. My baby is still nursing, though she does get about two bottles of cow's milk based formula a week, so my question isn't one I need the answer to right now. My question is: based on your experience and your research how do you give your kids " milk. " And if you are vegan, and openly so with your doctor, what has the response been? I've done enough research to know that the dairy industry has brainwashed us into thinking that we need cow's milk for calcium. I already give my daughter calcium-enriched orange juice and greens. I have the Calci-yum cookbook and other resources for vegan cooking, so you don't have to sell me on that. I just have never seen any info on at what age you can give your child soy milk and if it should be " limited. " And an interesting side note: On the diabetic diet I was on during pregnancy, I was supposed to have cow's milk twice a day. When I told my dietician about Unsw. silk, its carb and protein counts, she said it would qualify as a milk or a protein food. So, I put a small amount of decaf coffee (an ounce or two) in a glass and mixed it with 8 oz silk and iced. Mmmmm.... For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 My daughter is vegetarian but she does drink soy milk instead of cow milk. I would say on average about one glass a day, and sometimes a little in cereal for breakfast. We occassionally eat other soy products like TVP, veggie burgers, veggie slices....though we are trying to limit those as they are so processed. She doesnt much like tofu so she eats that only on rare occassions. My son (who will be vegan) will soon start weening off of his daytime breastmilk bottles so we are also trying to figure out what transition to make with him. Our thought is that two 6 oz bottles of soymilk a day, is not too much, as he will also be continuing to breastfeed. , christinemorrill@c... wrote: I'm interested to know how much soy other vegans give their kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 , christinemorrill@c... wrote: > > They both don't like rice milk, and I feel they need the extra protein. So, soy is really the only choice for us. Just a note to others deciding which (if any) " milk " to use to provide protein, ricemilk is NOT a good source. Try animal milk or soymilk or nutmilk for that. I love ricemilk, you just can't consider it a protein food. Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Thanks Kelly. In moderation, that's all I was trying to say too. And especially from traditional, more whole sources like tofu, tempeh, and soymilk. It's the super- processed isolated proteins in stuff like pre-made " meats " and TVP that, I feel, are less healthy. And if we look to high-soy diets from Asia to reassure us that soy is fine, well, they have always eaten the traditional soyfoods, NOT tons of veggie dogs and sausage and boca burgers and tvp and such. Not to say that those things should be cut out entirely, either, but I for one would not make the processed stuff a daily part of my diet.There are SO many soy " analogue " products available that it would be easy to eat so many different foods in a day that SEEMED really varied ( " meats " , " cheeses " , " yogurts " , " milks " ), but really are all soy. Maybe the problem is not with " too much " soy per se but that it can push out more variety? And all the processed foods can push out more whole foods in the diet. I felt like ya'll were too ready to dismiss my comment that it may be good to take soy in moderation because of the idea that all the anti-soy hype is just funded by the meat industry. Hey, let's remember all the pro-soy hype is (mostly)funded by the soy industry. They are out to make a buck, too. Got to take their hype with a grain of salt, too, and try to find the truth somewhere in the middle. For instance, on my soymilk container they recommend eating 25 grams of soy protein every day. Wow, that's well over half the protein an adult needs, and they are saying I should get that much from the SAME source, EVERY day? Sounds like they are just trying to get me to buy more of their product! Just some food for thought, I am NOT trying to criticize anyone else's choices. Jen , Kelly Weyd <kellmar98> wrote: > > Like everything else eat a varied healthy diet. My girls drink soy milk and have other soy products, but they also get their protein and calcium from other things too. Just as if you were a meat eater you would not eat all steak, all the time. And Tracy is probably right, the anti-soy campaign is probably funded by the meat industry. I used to buy into that anti-soy thing but after doing some research I decided soy in moderation like everything else. > > Kelly > > tracyinfo@a... wrote: > > There are some people/groups out there that will give anything a bad wrap. I > believe that the people who are coming out against soy, and say all the > negative things, are funded by the meat and dairy industries. Two industries that > have huge bucks. > > I understand some people are allergic to soy, and they should stay away from > soy. Just like the people that are allergic to strawberries (and some people > are!!), should stay away from strawberries. > > Hope this helps, Tracy > > > What's suppose to happen with too much soy? > > > > His dr. has always known that's all he drinks and has never been concerned. > > And actually, he's had about 3 different dr's and none have thought it was > > bad. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 My kids drink some soymilk, but they also love homemade cashew milk. (Nut milks are not appropriate for infants/toddlers, of course) Soak cashews in water overnight Blend soaked cashews, water, and sweetener of choice (I use agave nectar) Pour mixture through strainer Chill Enjoy! * , " jpetrusplus " <jen.petrus@e...> wrote: > > > , christinemorrill@c... wrote: > > > > They both don't like rice milk, and I feel they need the extra > protein. So, soy is really the only choice for us. > > Just a note to others deciding which (if any) " milk " to use to provide > protein, ricemilk is NOT a good source. Try animal milk or soymilk or > nutmilk for that. I love ricemilk, you just can't consider it a > protein food. > > Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 , " jpetrusplus " <jen.petrus@e...> wrote: > >> I felt like ya'll were too ready to dismiss my comment that it may be > good to take soy in moderation because of the idea that all the > anti-soy hype is just funded by the meat industry. Hey, let's remember > all the pro-soy hype is (mostly)funded by the soy industry. They are > out to make a buck, too. Got to take their hype with a grain of salt, > too, and try to find the truth somewhere in the middle. For instance, > on my soymilk container they recommend eating 25 grams of soy protein > every day. Wow, that's well over half the protein an adult needs, and > they are saying I should get that much from the SAME source, EVERY > day? Sounds like they are just trying to get me to buy more of their > product! > Just some food for thought, I am NOT trying to criticize anyone else's > choices. Good point, Jen! Variety is essential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Thanks for the recipe for cashew milk. angelaseibel <angelaseibel wrote: My kids drink some soymilk, but they also love homemade cashew milk. (Nut milks are not appropriate for infants/toddlers, of course) Soak cashews in water overnight Blend soaked cashews, water, and sweetener of choice (I use agave nectar) Pour mixture through strainer Chill Enjoy! * , " jpetrusplus " <jen.petrus@e...> wrote: > > > , christinemorrill@c... wrote: > > > > They both don't like rice milk, and I feel they need the extra > protein. So, soy is really the only choice for us. > > Just a note to others deciding which (if any) " milk " to use to provide > protein, ricemilk is NOT a good source. Try animal milk or soymilk or > nutmilk for that. I love ricemilk, you just can't consider it a > protein food. > > Jen For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 The " 25g per day of soy protein " that is advertised on the labels of mmany products is based on the FDA conclusion " that foods containing soy protein included in a diet low in saturated fat and cholesterol may reduce the risk of [Coronary Heart Disease] by lowering blood cholesterol levels " and that " Scientific studies show that 25 grams of soy protein daily in the diet is needed to show a significant cholesterol lowering effect " . For more info, refer to: http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ANSWERS/ANS00980.html I am sometimes skeptical of the FDA guidelines because of the influence of the Dairy Industry, so, when the FDA comes out in favor of soy (which cuts into Dairy Industry profits) I'm inclined to believe what they are saying. No doubt you can have too much of a good thing, and the amount that is " right " surely varies from person to person. - Alan , " jpetrusplus " <jen.petrus@e...> wrote: > > > Thanks Kelly. > In moderation, that's all I was trying to say too. And especially from > traditional, more whole sources like tofu, tempeh, and soymilk. It's > the super- processed isolated proteins in stuff like pre- made " meats " > and TVP that, I feel, are less healthy. And if we look to high-soy > diets from Asia to reassure us that soy is fine, well, they have > always eaten the traditional soyfoods, NOT tons of veggie dogs and > sausage and boca burgers and tvp and such. Not to say that those > things should be cut out entirely, either, but I for one would not > make the processed stuff a daily part of my diet.There are SO many soy > " analogue " products available that it would be easy to eat so many > different foods in a day that SEEMED really varied ( " meats " , > " cheeses " , " yogurts " , " milks " ), but really are all soy. Maybe the > problem is not with " too much " soy per se but that it can push out > more variety? And all the processed foods can push out more whole > foods in the diet. > I felt like ya'll were too ready to dismiss my comment that it may be > good to take soy in moderation because of the idea that all the > anti-soy hype is just funded by the meat industry. Hey, let's remember > all the pro-soy hype is (mostly)funded by the soy industry. They are > out to make a buck, too. Got to take their hype with a grain of salt, > too, and try to find the truth somewhere in the middle. For instance, > on my soymilk container they recommend eating 25 grams of soy protein > every day. Wow, that's well over half the protein an adult needs, and > they are saying I should get that much from the SAME source, EVERY > day? Sounds like they are just trying to get me to buy more of their > product! > Just some food for thought, I am NOT trying to criticize anyone else's > choices. > > Jen > > , Kelly Weyd <kellmar98> wrote: > > > > Like everything else eat a varied healthy diet. My girls drink soy > milk and have other soy products, but they also get their protein and > calcium from other things too. Just as if you were a meat eater you > would not eat all steak, all the time. And Tracy is probably right, > the anti-soy campaign is probably funded by the meat industry. I used > to buy into that anti-soy thing but after doing some research I > decided soy in moderation like everything else. > > > > Kelly > > > > tracyinfo@a... wrote: > > > > There are some people/groups out there that will give anything a bad > wrap. I > > believe that the people who are coming out against soy, and say all the > > negative things, are funded by the meat and dairy industries. Two > industries that > > have huge bucks. > > > > I understand some people are allergic to soy, and they should stay > away from > > soy. Just like the people that are allergic to strawberries (and > some people > > are!!), should stay away from strawberries. > > > > Hope this helps, Tracy > > > > > What's suppose to happen with too much soy? > > > > > > His dr. has always known that's all he drinks and has never been > concerned. > > > And actually, he's had about 3 different dr's and none have > thought it was > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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