Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 I heard recently about 8th Continent soymilk having animal ingredients when I was doing some research on Vitamin D fortified foods. Here is the article I read about 8th Continent: http://www.vegparadise.com/news19.html I found it hard to believe that companies would make soy milk with animal ingredients, so I called the 8th Continent customer support line (1-800-247-6458) to check it out. Turns out that the claim is true ... 8th Continent uses vitamin D3 (animal origin) rather than vitamin D2 (plant origin). At first the person I talked to on the phone said all the 8th Continent ingredients were of plant origin, then when I told her about the article I read she did a little more checking and confirmed it was fortified with the animal-based D3. She seemed genuinely surprised. I politely told the customer support person that I would not be buying their product because of this and suggested they switch to Vitamin D2. I am now checking all the products I eat that just say Vitamin D on the label to make sure they have vitamin D2 instead of D3. And although I agree with those who have commented that seeing " Vegetarian " on the label ought to mean we can consume the product without worrying about animal ingredients, apparently this is not always the case. Refer to the link, above. Regards, Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 But Alan, 8th Continent does not claim to be vegetarian on the label - at least not the bottles of it I have seen sold in my part of the country. And if you want to go a little further on this, not all cow's milk is vegetarian for the samee reason - their sourse of D vitamins. But how many vegetarians consume cow's milk thinking it is vegetarian? God's Peace, Gayle - " Alan " <soy_decaf_latte Friday, March 04, 2005 8:40 PM 8th Continent > > > > I heard recently about 8th Continent soymilk having animal > ingredients when I was doing some research on Vitamin D fortified > foods. Here is the article I read about 8th Continent: > http://www.vegparadise.com/news19.html > > I found it hard to believe that companies would make soy milk with > animal ingredients, so I called the 8th Continent customer support > line (1-800-247-6458) to check it out. Turns out that the claim is > true ... 8th Continent uses vitamin D3 (animal origin) rather than > vitamin D2 (plant origin). > > At first the person I talked to on the phone said all the 8th > Continent ingredients were of plant origin, then when I told her > about the article I read she did a little more checking and confirmed > it was fortified with the animal-based D3. She seemed genuinely > surprised. > > I politely told the customer support person that I would not be > buying their product because of this and suggested they switch to > Vitamin D2. > > I am now checking all the products I eat that just say Vitamin D on > the label to make sure they have vitamin D2 instead of D3. > > And although I agree with those who have commented that > seeing " Vegetarian " on the label ought to mean we can consume the > product without worrying about animal ingredients, apparently this is > not always the case. Refer to the link, above. > > > Regards, > Alan > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at > http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to > http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to > provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a > qualified health professional. > > edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health > professional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Right you are, Gayle. I wanted to let 8th Continent know they were losing customers that they could easily keep by making one small change in their product (from Vitamin D3 to D2). I would think they could increase sales by making the switch and labeling their product " vegetarian " . There are many products not labeled " vegetarian " that I eat. So, I'm accustomed to reading the labels to make sure it doesn't contain any animal ingredients. Until recently, I wasn't aware that the Vitamin D used to fortify some products might come from animal origins. So now I am checking out things like breakfast cereals. I discovered that my " natural " vitamin contains the animal-based D3, and my wife's " natural " conditioner contained something called " animal protein " (gag!). On the flip side, the article I linked to in my original note suggests that even when products are labeled " vegetarian " they sometimes are not: " Often milk or margarine, which may be thought of as vegetarian products, will contain vitamin D3 of animal origin. We have even found supplements that are labeled 'vegetarian,' yet contain Vitamin D3; upon further inquiry, the suppliers were surprised to realize that the Vitamin D used was of animal origin. " So it is buyer beware. - Alan , <quintmom@n...> wrote: > > But Alan, 8th Continent does not claim to be vegetarian on the label - at > least not the bottles of it I have seen sold in my part of the country. And > if you want to go a little further on this, not all cow's milk is vegetarian > for the samee reason - their sourse of D vitamins. But how many vegetarians > consume cow's milk thinking it is vegetarian? > > God's Peace, > Gayle > > - > " Alan " <soy_decaf_latte> > > Friday, March 04, 2005 8:40 PM > 8th Continent > > > > > > > > > > I heard recently about 8th Continent soymilk having animal > > ingredients when I was doing some research on Vitamin D fortified > > foods. Here is the article I read about 8th Continent: > > http://www.vegparadise.com/news19.html > > > > I found it hard to believe that companies would make soy milk with > > animal ingredients, so I called the 8th Continent customer support > > line (1-800-247-6458) to check it out. Turns out that the claim is > > true ... 8th Continent uses vitamin D3 (animal origin) rather than > > vitamin D2 (plant origin). > > > > At first the person I talked to on the phone said all the 8th > > Continent ingredients were of plant origin, then when I told her > > about the article I read she did a little more checking and confirmed > > it was fortified with the animal-based D3. She seemed genuinely > > surprised. > > > > I politely told the customer support person that I would not be > > buying their product because of this and suggested they switch to > > Vitamin D2. > > > > I am now checking all the products I eat that just say Vitamin D on > > the label to make sure they have vitamin D2 instead of D3. > > > > And although I agree with those who have commented that > > seeing " Vegetarian " on the label ought to mean we can consume the > > product without worrying about animal ingredients, apparently this is > > not always the case. Refer to the link, above. > > > > > > Regards, > > Alan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at > > http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to > > http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to > > provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a > > qualified health professional. > > > > edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health > > professional. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 <Sigh> I know you're right, Alan. I read all the ingredients even in things I knew were vegan previously because companies change their ingredients from time-to-time and what used to be vegan might not be anymore. I guess that's why I make so much of my own stuff. I'm not saying I'm paranoid or anything. It's just much easier (and for my families' own tastes and costs - better) and saves time to make the food my family eats than to buy it. And about 8th Continent Soy Milk? When they first came out, I called them to find out the source of their D vitamins as I did with SunSoy. Both companies derive their D vitamins from animal sources. When I asked if they realized they were loosing out on the veg*n market by not using non-animal derived vitamin D sources they said something to the effect that they did realize it and they had no problem with that. They were very polite, but in essence that's what they said. God's Peace, Gayle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Someone said Sun Soy was unvegan. They use vitamin D2 so I don't understand what about it would be unvegan. As far as I can see all of the ingredients look fine and no different that what is in Silk.. Its just a $1 cheaper per half gallon. Someone help me out here. We are still drinking Sun Soy.... Renee --- Alan <soy_decaf_latte wrote: > > > Right you are, Gayle. I wanted to let 8th Continent > know they were > losing customers that they could easily keep by > making one small > change in their product (from Vitamin D3 to D2). I > would think they > could increase sales by making the switch and > labeling their > product " vegetarian " . > > There are many products not labeled " vegetarian " > that I eat. So, I'm > accustomed to reading the labels to make sure it > doesn't contain any > animal ingredients. Until recently, I wasn't aware > that the Vitamin > D used to fortify some products might come from > animal origins. So > now I am checking out things like breakfast cereals. > I discovered > that my " natural " vitamin contains the animal-based > D3, and my > wife's " natural " conditioner contained something > called " animal > protein " (gag!). > > On the flip side, the article I linked to in my > original note > suggests that even when products are labeled > " vegetarian " they > sometimes are not: " Often milk or margarine, which > may be thought of > as vegetarian products, will contain vitamin D3 of > animal origin. We > have even found supplements that are labeled > 'vegetarian,' yet > contain Vitamin D3; upon further inquiry, the > suppliers were > surprised to realize that the Vitamin D used was of > animal origin. " > > So it is buyer beware. > > - Alan > > , <quintmom@n...> > wrote: > > > > But Alan, 8th Continent does not claim to be > vegetarian on the > label - at > > least not the bottles of it I have seen sold in my > part of the > country. And > > if you want to go a little further on this, not > all cow's milk is > vegetarian > > for the samee reason - their sourse of D vitamins. > But how many > vegetarians > > consume cow's milk thinking it is vegetarian? > > > > God's Peace, > > Gayle > > > > - > > " Alan " <soy_decaf_latte> > > > > Friday, March 04, 2005 8:40 PM > > 8th Continent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard recently about 8th Continent soymilk > having animal > > > ingredients when I was doing some research on > Vitamin D fortified > > > foods. Here is the article I read about 8th > Continent: > > > http://www.vegparadise.com/news19.html > > > > > > I found it hard to believe that companies would > make soy milk with > > > animal ingredients, so I called the 8th > Continent customer support > > > line (1-800-247-6458) to check it out. Turns > out that the claim > is > > > true ... 8th Continent uses vitamin D3 (animal > origin) rather than > > > vitamin D2 (plant origin). > > > > > > At first the person I talked to on the phone > said all the 8th > > > Continent ingredients were of plant origin, then > when I told her > > > about the article I read she did a little more > checking and > confirmed > > > it was fortified with the animal-based D3. She > seemed genuinely > > > surprised. > > > > > > I politely told the customer support person that > I would not be > > > buying their product because of this and > suggested they switch to > > > Vitamin D2. > > > > > > I am now checking all the products I eat that > just say Vitamin D > on > > > the label to make sure they have vitamin D2 > instead of D3. > > > > > > And although I agree with those who have > commented that > > > seeing " Vegetarian " on the label ought to mean > we can consume the > > > product without worrying about animal > ingredients, apparently > this is > > > not always the case. Refer to the link, above. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please > visit the VRG > website at > > > http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially > useful for > families go to > > > http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion > list and is not > intended to > > > provide personal medical advice. Medical advice > should be > obtained from a > > > qualified health professional. > > > > > > edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained > from a qualified > health > > > professional. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Then SunSoy changed their D3 to D2 because I called them last year to make sure what the source of the vitamin D was. Maybe enough of us called and complained. That's great to hear. God's Peace, Gayle - " Renee Carroll " <renecarol25 Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:33 AM Re: Re: 8th Continent > > > Someone said Sun Soy was unvegan. They use vitamin D2 > so I don't understand what about it would be unvegan. > As far as I can see all of the ingredients look fine > and no different that what is in Silk.. Its just a $1 > cheaper per half gallon. Someone help me out here. > We are still drinking Sun Soy.... > Renee > > --- Alan <soy_decaf_latte wrote: > >> >> >> Right you are, Gayle. I wanted to let 8th Continent >> know they were >> losing customers that they could easily keep by >> making one small >> change in their product (from Vitamin D3 to D2). I >> would think they >> could increase sales by making the switch and >> labeling their >> product " vegetarian " . >> >> There are many products not labeled " vegetarian " >> that I eat. So, I'm >> accustomed to reading the labels to make sure it >> doesn't contain any >> animal ingredients. Until recently, I wasn't aware >> that the Vitamin >> D used to fortify some products might come from >> animal origins. So >> now I am checking out things like breakfast cereals. >> I discovered >> that my " natural " vitamin contains the animal-based >> D3, and my >> wife's " natural " conditioner contained something >> called " animal >> protein " (gag!). >> >> On the flip side, the article I linked to in my >> original note >> suggests that even when products are labeled >> " vegetarian " they >> sometimes are not: " Often milk or margarine, which >> may be thought of >> as vegetarian products, will contain vitamin D3 of >> animal origin. We >> have even found supplements that are labeled >> 'vegetarian,' yet >> contain Vitamin D3; upon further inquiry, the >> suppliers were >> surprised to realize that the Vitamin D used was of >> animal origin. " >> >> So it is buyer beware. >> >> - Alan >> >> , <quintmom@n...> >> wrote: >> > >> > But Alan, 8th Continent does not claim to be >> vegetarian on the >> label - at >> > least not the bottles of it I have seen sold in my >> part of the >> country. And >> > if you want to go a little further on this, not >> all cow's milk is >> vegetarian >> > for the samee reason - their sourse of D vitamins. >> But how many >> vegetarians >> > consume cow's milk thinking it is vegetarian? >> > >> > God's Peace, >> > Gayle >> > >> > - >> > " Alan " <soy_decaf_latte> >> > >> > Friday, March 04, 2005 8:40 PM >> > 8th Continent >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > I heard recently about 8th Continent soymilk >> having animal >> > > ingredients when I was doing some research on >> Vitamin D fortified >> > > foods. Here is the article I read about 8th >> Continent: >> > > http://www.vegparadise.com/news19.html >> > > >> > > I found it hard to believe that companies would >> make soy milk with >> > > animal ingredients, so I called the 8th >> Continent customer support >> > > line (1-800-247-6458) to check it out. Turns >> out that the claim >> is >> > > true ... 8th Continent uses vitamin D3 (animal >> origin) rather than >> > > vitamin D2 (plant origin). >> > > >> > > At first the person I talked to on the phone >> said all the 8th >> > > Continent ingredients were of plant origin, then >> when I told her >> > > about the article I read she did a little more >> checking and >> confirmed >> > > it was fortified with the animal-based D3. She >> seemed genuinely >> > > surprised. >> > > >> > > I politely told the customer support person that >> I would not be >> > > buying their product because of this and >> suggested they switch to >> > > Vitamin D2. >> > > >> > > I am now checking all the products I eat that >> just say Vitamin D >> on >> > > the label to make sure they have vitamin D2 >> instead of D3. >> > > >> > > And although I agree with those who have >> commented that >> > > seeing " Vegetarian " on the label ought to mean >> we can consume the >> > > product without worrying about animal >> ingredients, apparently >> this is >> > > not always the case. Refer to the link, above. >> > > >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > Alan >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > For more information about vegetarianism, please >> visit the VRG >> website at >> > > http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially >> useful for >> families go to >> > > http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion >> list and is not >> intended to >> > > provide personal medical advice. Medical advice >> should be >> obtained from a >> > > qualified health professional. >> > > >> > > edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained >> from a qualified >> health >> > > professional. >> > > >> > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 It's been great hearing all the info about the different brands of soy milk. After my negative encounter with 8th Continent (which also uses GMO soybeans), I can report a more positive experience with Minute Maid orange juice. I have been buying the MM Calcium and Vitamin D enriched OJ for my family, so I called their consumer info # (1-800- 888-6488)and was happy to learn that their OJ is completly animal- free, including the vitamin D. Whew! I like starting the day with a glass of MM OJ where we get 25% of our Vitamin D and 35% of our calcium ... plus whatever we get from the cereals, breads, fruit, soymilk, etc. While I had the MM consumer info folks on the line, I thanked them for being animal-free and suggested they be more explicit in their product labeling about using Vitamin D2 and plant sources of calcium. It could be a competitive advantage for them and make our job of choosing animal-free products for our families a little easier. - Alan , <quintmom@n...> wrote: > > Then SunSoy changed their D3 to D2 because I called them last year to make > sure what the source of the vitamin D was. Maybe enough of us called and > complained. That's great to hear. > > God's Peace, > Gayle > > - > " Renee Carroll " <renecarol25> > > Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:33 AM > Re: Re: 8th Continent > > > > > > > > Someone said Sun Soy was unvegan. They use vitamin D2 > > so I don't understand what about it would be unvegan. > > As far as I can see all of the ingredients look fine > > and no different that what is in Silk.. Its just a $1 > > cheaper per half gallon. Someone help me out here. > > We are still drinking Sun Soy.... > > Renee > > > > --- Alan <soy_decaf_latte> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Right you are, Gayle. I wanted to let 8th Continent > >> know they were > >> losing customers that they could easily keep by > >> making one small > >> change in their product (from Vitamin D3 to D2). I > >> would think they > >> could increase sales by making the switch and > >> labeling their > >> product " vegetarian " . > >> > >> There are many products not labeled " vegetarian " > >> that I eat. So, I'm > >> accustomed to reading the labels to make sure it > >> doesn't contain any > >> animal ingredients. Until recently, I wasn't aware > >> that the Vitamin > >> D used to fortify some products might come from > >> animal origins. So > >> now I am checking out things like breakfast cereals. > >> I discovered > >> that my " natural " vitamin contains the animal-based > >> D3, and my > >> wife's " natural " conditioner contained something > >> called " animal > >> protein " (gag!). > >> > >> On the flip side, the article I linked to in my > >> original note > >> suggests that even when products are labeled > >> " vegetarian " they > >> sometimes are not: " Often milk or margarine, which > >> may be thought of > >> as vegetarian products, will contain vitamin D3 of > >> animal origin. We > >> have even found supplements that are labeled > >> 'vegetarian,' yet > >> contain Vitamin D3; upon further inquiry, the > >> suppliers were > >> surprised to realize that the Vitamin D used was of > >> animal origin. " > >> > >> So it is buyer beware. > >> > >> - Alan > >> > >> , <quintmom@n...> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > But Alan, 8th Continent does not claim to be > >> vegetarian on the > >> label - at > >> > least not the bottles of it I have seen sold in my > >> part of the > >> country. And > >> > if you want to go a little further on this, not > >> all cow's milk is > >> vegetarian > >> > for the samee reason - their sourse of D vitamins. > >> But how many > >> vegetarians > >> > consume cow's milk thinking it is vegetarian? > >> > > >> > God's Peace, > >> > Gayle > >> > > >> > - > >> > " Alan " <soy_decaf_latte> > >> > > >> > Friday, March 04, 2005 8:40 PM > >> > 8th Continent > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > I heard recently about 8th Continent soymilk > >> having animal > >> > > ingredients when I was doing some research on > >> Vitamin D fortified > >> > > foods. Here is the article I read about 8th > >> Continent: > >> > > http://www.vegparadise.com/news19.html > >> > > > >> > > I found it hard to believe that companies would > >> make soy milk with > >> > > animal ingredients, so I called the 8th > >> Continent customer support > >> > > line (1-800-247-6458) to check it out. Turns > >> out that the claim > >> is > >> > > true ... 8th Continent uses vitamin D3 (animal > >> origin) rather than > >> > > vitamin D2 (plant origin). > >> > > > >> > > At first the person I talked to on the phone > >> said all the 8th > >> > > Continent ingredients were of plant origin, then > >> when I told her > >> > > about the article I read she did a little more > >> checking and > >> confirmed > >> > > it was fortified with the animal-based D3. She > >> seemed genuinely > >> > > surprised. > >> > > > >> > > I politely told the customer support person that > >> I would not be > >> > > buying their product because of this and > >> suggested they switch to > >> > > Vitamin D2. > >> > > > >> > > I am now checking all the products I eat that > >> just say Vitamin D > >> on > >> > > the label to make sure they have vitamin D2 > >> instead of D3. > >> > > > >> > > And although I agree with those who have > >> commented that > >> > > seeing " Vegetarian " on the label ought to mean > >> we can consume the > >> > > product without worrying about animal > >> ingredients, apparently > >> this is > >> > > not always the case. Refer to the link, above. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Regards, > >> > > Alan > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > For more information about vegetarianism, please > >> visit the VRG > >> website at > >> > > http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially > >> useful for > >> families go to > >> > > http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion > >> list and is not > >> intended to > >> > > provide personal medical advice. Medical advice > >> should be > >> obtained from a > >> > > qualified health professional. > >> > > > >> > > edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained > >> from a qualified > >> health > >> > > professional. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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