Request follow-up advice for pre-school feeding my son meat

[Guest guest]

I need some advice and I don't know what to do with this. Please let me know if

you think it would

benefit the vegetarian cause and that of improved daycare by doing this.

 

Today I received a phone call from " The People's Court " asking me to appear on

TV for a claim that

is being filed against me from the pre-school my son previously attended. I

pulled him out after

they fed him meat products for the second time. I cancelled my check for that

month, since the

second incident occured early in January, I had just given them the check and it

hadn't cleared my

account yet. They still had a portion of my tuition which I asked for nicely on

the phone and the

director suddenly went cold on me and said she'd see me in court and I'd

actually owe them for

breaking my contract for the full year's tuition. This is after she said she

wasn't responsible

for the incident, as she was not present in the classroom. Which is absurd, of

course. I am just

at my last straw now for any kind of issues. I used to be so strong, now I feel

so exhausted since

our car accident and now this! I'm sorry I'm venting out here, I just don't know

what to say. I

hate talking to lawyers and I had already had one from my husband's pre-paid

legal service send

them a letter asking for our remaining money back. Apparently, that is what has

sparked their

claim against me (which I wouldn't even know about yet if the TV show hadn't

called. I don't want

to be put on as a freak show and made to look a fool. I clearly am not in enough

financial

standing to have disregarded the $225, the school owes me, and now I may have to

pay them over

$1000 if I should lose this case off of the TV show. I have nothing against

people on TV, but you

just leave your personal business out for everyone to judge and I am a very

private person. I

don't even talk very much with my friends about my personal business because

it's my business. Why

couldn't this lady just have chalked up, said wow, I made a big mistake and sent

me the remainder

of my money! I don't need any additional grief. I really don't. The only good

thing is that if

somehow the judge declares that I pay, the TV show will pay it for me. But I

don't want to give

them a darn thing, and I don't want them to receive it from the TV show either!

The school showed

no remorse for what they did and further insult to injury did it twice! Augh,

I'm sorry to go on

with this complaint, but my nerves are totally shot and I'm exhausted. Normally,

I'm not a

complainer and I appreciate this board for me to put down all of this non-sense.

 

I appreciate any comments. Would you think it would be worthwhile as a

vegetarian cause. I need

some incentive, because right now, all I'd see is them winning (either way,

since even if I win

the TV show pays me too, and still no remorse from them!) Do you think it will

raise public

awareness, or just another opportunity to make a shot at the freaky vegetarians.

I remember

someone writing since she was on the Wife Swap and unhappy with the TV

production of her actual

experience.

 

Well, this has been a long one, thanks for letting me vent...

 

Janeen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It sounds like your issue with the school is more about your contract than

your vegetarianism. You can probably read your contract to find if you can

cancel the contract at any time for cause. If not, the court would probably

find against you. Did the school ever promise to follow your wishes about

feeding your child a vegetarian diet? If they failed to live up to their end

of the contract, it probably describes the procedure for voiding it.

....

Be kind. Be of good cheer.

Dick Ford

www.dick-ford.com

[Guest guest]

Janeen,

 

 

 

I missed your original post so don't know the whole story, but I have

two little girls in daycare and have had to deal with this same issue.

We are in a rural area and vegetarianism is unknown here. I had to get

a note signed by my dr. stating that the dietary requirements were due

to a medical problem so that the daycare could get their DHS food

funding for my kids. I am almost certain that this requirement is

discriminatory and a violation of my civil rights. I send meat and milk

substitutes with my kids and still pay the same amount for their care.

I am researching the legality of this DHS policy - which applies to any

child with nutritional needs that differ from the state-approved dietary

guidelines - right now. We are in OK, by the way.

 

 

 

Chessie

 

 

 

 

IcedChaiSoy [icedChaiSoy]

Friday, March 11, 2005 8:08 AM

 

Re: Request follow-up advice for pre-school

feeding my son meat

 

 

 

 

Janeen,

 

It's really unfortunate that this has happened. If I were you I wouldn't

go

on tv with it. I don't think it would help the vegetarian cause, I think

it

would just make vegetarians look difficult, know what I mean? It's just

another

way people would watch and say " see, vegetarians are crazy " or

" vegetarians are

so difficult " ... they just don't get it and never will.

 

Please keep us updated on what happens...

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jacqueline Bodnar

Freelance Writer

http://www.jacquelinebodnar.com

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, janeen minguillo wrote:

 

> I appreciate any comments. Would you think it would be worthwhile as a

vegetarian cause. I need

> some incentive, because right now, all I'd see is them winning (either way,

since even if I win

> the TV show pays me too, and still no remorse from them!) Do you think it will

raise public

> awareness, or just another opportunity to make a shot at the freaky

vegetarians. I remember

> someone writing since she was on the Wife Swap and unhappy with the TV

production of her actual

> experience.

 

If it were me, I would not go on the show. I don't trust reality TV one

bit and the potential for public embarrassment is so high. Conversely, I

think the potential for doing anything to promote vegetarianism is very

low. The argument is about breach of contract, not whether vegetariansim

is a good thing or not.

 

----

Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia

 

The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered

three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the

purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each

nonexisted in an entirely different way ...

-- Stanislaw Lem, " Cyberiad "

[Guest guest]

Thanks for everyone's advice. So far, I've decided that I definitely will not go

on TV. It was

such an odd thought, but after watching an episode, I knew it wasn't for me.

I'll wait it out and

handle it through regular court however we need to. Thanks again for the advice.

It's clear that I

need to battle the contract. For me, they violated the contract when they fed my

son meat, against

several of my written and verbal requests. Hopefully, it's as obvious to the

judge, but I was

hoping it would have been more obvious to the direct upon receipt of my lawyer's

letter. Seems

easier to have just written a check for such a small amount and be done with it.

Instead, they are

getting negative press with each time I tell the story. My case must not be so

obvious to them, or

else they probably wouldn't be pursuing their supposed loss.

 

Thanks!

 

Janeen

 

 

--- IcedChaiSoy wrote:

>

> Janeen,

>

> It's really unfortunate that this has happened. If I were you I wouldn't go

> on tv with it. I don't think it would help the vegetarian cause, I think it

> would just make vegetarians look difficult, know what I mean? It's just

another

> way people would watch and say " see, vegetarians are crazy " or " vegetarians

are

> so difficult " ... they just don't get it and never will.

>

> Please keep us updated on what happens...

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Jacqueline Bodnar

> Freelance Writer

> http://www.jacquelinebodnar.com

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am trying to research this issue also. I am going

to start my own daycare in the Boston area in a few

months. I would like it to be totally vegan but I am

getting mixed advice. The staff at the OCCS (Office

of Child Care Services) told me it will be

discrimination if I run a vegan daycare. On the other

hand, a law student that my fiance works with, says

that " meateaters " are not a designated group so they

can not be discriminated against. I would like to use

the Food Program for my daycare so that I may get

reimbursed for food for the children but I have to

feed them USDA approved food, meaning I would have to

feed them hotdogs and milk everyday. I don't know how

I would get around this because I will have to show

receipts for what i purchase in order to get money

back. I would love some first hand advice on this

issue as I'm having a hard time deciding what to do.

One of the main reasons I'm starting the daycare is

because I don't want to deal with my daughter being

fed food that I don't want her eating. Can anyone

help?

Thanks

Mandy

--- Chessie <vegetariyum wrote:

>

> Janeen,

>

>

>

> I missed your original post so don't know the whole

> story, but I have

> two little girls in daycare and have had to deal

> with this same issue.

> We are in a rural area and vegetarianism is unknown

> here. I had to get

> a note signed by my dr. stating that the dietary

> requirements were due

> to a medical problem so that the daycare could get

> their DHS food

> funding for my kids. I am almost certain that this

> requirement is

> discriminatory and a violation of my civil rights.

> I send meat and milk

> substitutes with my kids and still pay the same

> amount for their care.

> I am researching the legality of this DHS policy -

> which applies to any

> child with nutritional needs that differ from the

> state-approved dietary

> guidelines - right now. We are in OK, by the way.

>

>

>

> Chessie

>

>

>

>

> IcedChaiSoy

> [icedChaiSoy]

> Friday, March 11, 2005 8:08 AM

>

> Re: Request follow-up advice

> for pre-school

> feeding my son meat

>

>

>

>

> Janeen,

>

> It's really unfortunate that this has happened. If I

> were you I wouldn't

> go

> on tv with it. I don't think it would help the

> vegetarian cause, I think

> it

> would just make vegetarians look difficult, know

> what I mean? It's just

> another

> way people would watch and say " see, vegetarians are

> crazy " or

> " vegetarians are

> so difficult " ... they just don't get it and never

> will.

>

> Please keep us updated on what happens...

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Jacqueline Bodnar

> Freelance Writer

> http://www.jacquelinebodnar.com

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

For more information about vegetarianism, please

> visit the VRG website

> at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially

> useful for families

> go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion

> list and is not

> intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical

> advice should be

> obtained from a qualified health professional.

>

> edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained

> from a qualified health

> professional.

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

There's someone in my city who runs a vegetarian daycare, and there's no

discrimination issues. It's only discrimination if you refused to take care

of kids from meat-eating families. Of course you could still serve them, but

you can have a vegan food only policy. Plus, like the other person said,

meateaters aren't a protected group.

 

 

mandy symonds [starpopple67]

Monday, March 14, 2005 11:54 AM

 

RE: Request follow-up advice for pre-school

feeding my son meat

 

 

 

 

I am trying to research this issue also. I am going

to start my own daycare in the Boston area in a few

months. I would like it to be totally vegan but I am

getting mixed advice. The staff at the OCCS (Office

of Child Care Services) told me it will be

discrimination if I run a vegan daycare. On the other

hand, a law student that my fiance works with, says

that " meateaters " are not a designated group so they

can not be discriminated against. I would like to use

the Food Program for my daycare so that I may get

reimbursed for food for the children but I have to

feed them USDA approved food, meaning I would have to

feed them hotdogs and milk everyday. I don't know how

I would get around this because I will have to show

receipts for what i purchase in order to get money

back. I would love some first hand advice on this

issue as I'm having a hard time deciding what to do.

One of the main reasons I'm starting the daycare is

because I don't want to deal with my daughter being

fed food that I don't want her eating. Can anyone

help?

Thanks

Mandy

--- Chessie <vegetariyum wrote:

>

> Janeen,

>

>

>

> I missed your original post so don't know the whole

> story, but I have

> two little girls in daycare and have had to deal

> with this same issue.

> We are in a rural area and vegetarianism is unknown

> here. I had to get

> a note signed by my dr. stating that the dietary

> requirements were due

> to a medical problem so that the daycare could get

> their DHS food

> funding for my kids. I am almost certain that this

> requirement is

> discriminatory and a violation of my civil rights.

> I send meat and milk

> substitutes with my kids and still pay the same

> amount for their care.

> I am researching the legality of this DHS policy -

> which applies to any

> child with nutritional needs that differ from the

> state-approved dietary

> guidelines - right now. We are in OK, by the way.

>

>

>

> Chessie

>

>

>

>

> IcedChaiSoy

> [icedChaiSoy]

> Friday, March 11, 2005 8:08 AM

>

> Re: Request follow-up advice

> for pre-school

> feeding my son meat

>

>

>

>

> Janeen,

>

> It's really unfortunate that this has happened. If I

> were you I wouldn't

> go

> on tv with it. I don't think it would help the

> vegetarian cause, I think

> it

> would just make vegetarians look difficult, know

> what I mean? It's just

> another

> way people would watch and say " see, vegetarians are

> crazy " or

> " vegetarians are

> so difficult " ... they just don't get it and never

> will.

>

> Please keep us updated on what happens...

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Jacqueline Bodnar

> Freelance Writer

> http://www.jacquelinebodnar.com

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

For more information about vegetarianism, please

> visit the VRG website

> at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially

> useful for families

> go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion

> list and is not

> intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical

> advice should be

> obtained from a qualified health professional.

>

> edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained

> from a qualified health

> professional.

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

Another example of this is daycare/preschool at a synagogue or other

religious organization. At our temple preschool, they try to keep the

lunches that the children bring in kosher, so no meat is allowed. The

children do fine

 

Tracy

 

-

<leena

 

Tuesday, March 15, 2005 3:35 PM

RE: Request follow-up advice for pre-school feeding my

son meat

 

 

>

>

> There's someone in my city who runs a vegetarian daycare, and there's no

> discrimination issues. It's only discrimination if you refused to take

care

> of kids from meat-eating families. Of course you could still serve them,

but

> you can have a vegan food only policy. Plus, like the other person said,

> meateaters aren't a protected group.

>

>

> mandy symonds [starpopple67]

> Monday, March 14, 2005 11:54 AM

>

> RE: Request follow-up advice for pre-school

> feeding my son meat

>

>

>

>

> I am trying to research this issue also. I am going

> to start my own daycare in the Boston area in a few

> months. I would like it to be totally vegan but I am

> getting mixed advice. The staff at the OCCS (Office

> of Child Care Services) told me it will be

> discrimination if I run a vegan daycare. On the other

> hand, a law student that my fiance works with, says

> that " meateaters " are not a designated group so they

> can not be discriminated against. I would like to use

> the Food Program for my daycare so that I may get

> reimbursed for food for the children but I have to

> feed them USDA approved food, meaning I would have to

> feed them hotdogs and milk everyday. I don't know how

> I would get around this because I will have to show

> receipts for what i purchase in order to get money

> back. I would love some first hand advice on this

> issue as I'm having a hard time deciding what to do.

> One of the main reasons I'm starting the daycare is

> because I don't want to deal with my daughter being

> fed food that I don't want her eating. Can anyone

> help?

> Thanks

> Mandy

> --- Chessie <vegetariyum wrote:

> >

> > Janeen,

> >

> >

> >

> > I missed your original post so don't know the whole

> > story, but I have

> > two little girls in daycare and have had to deal

> > with this same issue.

> > We are in a rural area and vegetarianism is unknown

> > here. I had to get

> > a note signed by my dr. stating that the dietary

> > requirements were due

> > to a medical problem so that the daycare could get

> > their DHS food

> > funding for my kids. I am almost certain that this

> > requirement is

> > discriminatory and a violation of my civil rights.

> > I send meat and milk

> > substitutes with my kids and still pay the same

> > amount for their care.

> > I am researching the legality of this DHS policy -

> > which applies to any

> > child with nutritional needs that differ from the

> > state-approved dietary

> > guidelines - right now. We are in OK, by the way.

> >

> >

> >

> > Chessie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > IcedChaiSoy

> > [icedChaiSoy]

> > Friday, March 11, 2005 8:08 AM

> >

> > Re: Request follow-up advice

> > for pre-school

> > feeding my son meat

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Janeen,

> >

> > It's really unfortunate that this has happened. If I

> > were you I wouldn't

> > go

> > on tv with it. I don't think it would help the

> > vegetarian cause, I think

> > it

> > would just make vegetarians look difficult, know

> > what I mean? It's just

> > another

> > way people would watch and say " see, vegetarians are

> > crazy " or

> > " vegetarians are

> > so difficult " ... they just don't get it and never

> > will.

> >

> > Please keep us updated on what happens...

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > Jacqueline Bodnar

> > Freelance Writer

> > http://www.jacquelinebodnar.com

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For more information about vegetarianism, please

> > visit the VRG website

> > at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially

> > useful for families

> > go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion

> > list and is not

> > intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical

> > advice should be

> > obtained from a qualified health professional.

> >

> > edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained

> > from a qualified health

> > professional.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >