Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 They say absolutely not. It destroys whatever you're taking it for ;=) It also has to be kept refrigerated all the time and shouldn't be bought in large quantities because it goes off very very quickly even in the fridge. (Sometimes, I'm told, it's already a bit rancid by the time you get it from some healthfood stores ;=() This is why I really prefer flax seed. You can freeze it and just leave enough in the fridge for, say, a week, then grind the seed fresh daily. Some grind and freeze it in smaller packs, they say, but I prefer the idea of grinding fresh. I use a coffe grinder that I reserve for grinding spices for Indian foods, etc. Yeah, get the seeds! Although other people on veg lists tell me they dress salads with the oil, which has a very pleasant flavour. Anyone here do that? best, pat ;=) , Rebecca < livecompassionately> wrote: > I was wondering...I've never heard about anyone doing it, so I'm guessing not, but can you cook with flax seed oil the way you would cook with regular cooking oil or olive oil in a pan? Just curious! Thanks. -Rebecca > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Hi Jael, Have you considered flax oil? Three grams contains 1335mg of omega-3 oil and 388mg of omega-6 oil. You can take capsules or liquid, if you are opposed to ingesting capsules made from gelatin (an animal byproduct). Flax oil can be found in the refrigerated section at your local health food store. Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Hi, Karen! Actually, Udo's oil does have flax oil in it, and I do ground-up flax seeds in red wine, with honey of an evening. Yum! I have heard that flax oil is not equal, though - perhaps because of the vitamin D. I shall look into this further. I don't want synthetic D, and I have days when there just isn't enough free time during daylight to get out into the sun to manufacture my own. Cod liver oil is just so much easier. Ah, the sun! It's so necessary, too, for the production of melatonin/seratonin to get at least 20 to 30 minutes of full spectrum light in order to kick the pineal gland into producing this hormone. I'm going to go to Home Depot to find a full spectrum light to put in my meditation room - of course, timing is everything, and light in the evening (when I get home from work during some months) can interrupt the normal sleep cycle. I go to bed early, because I wake up early (4 am), and I require a lot of sleep. Oh, I am full of yes-buts, because life seems to be so complicated, and I struggle with a schedule where I can do it all, and do it all right. My issues are about a lot more than just the food I eat. Exercise, meditation, sleep, work, family... Modern life is a challenge, no? Doing it right is a full-time job! Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into it. Jael , kleelibby@w... wrote: > > Hi Jael, > Have you considered flax oil? Three grams contains 1335mg of omega- 3 > oil and 388mg of omega-6 oil. You can take capsules or liquid, if you > are opposed to ingesting capsules made from gelatin (an animal > byproduct). Flax oil can be found in the refrigerated section at your > local health food store. > Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Hi Jael, Cod liver oil may be " easier, " but please consider how difficult it is for the cod. Yes, it is a challenge to fit everything necessary into our busy days. I live in Florida, so am lucky to get enough natural sunlight most days. Good luck with the light you get at Home Depot. Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I am curious how much people pay for flax oil or what you do to get your omega 3s? My family is on a tight budget and it seems that gas prices are not the only thing that has gone up recently. We are just flat broke lately trying to buy the foods that we usually buy. We find ourselves buying less and less organic, relying on costco for bulk quantities of boca burgers (which we used to not buy because they are Phillip Morris), etc, etc. Its amazing how your standards are so closely related to your budget!! Anyway, a midsize bottle of (12 or 16 oz?) flax oil is running around $15 in our area right now. With 4 people each consuming 1-2 Tbs several times a week, we just can't afford it. Now suddenly my husband, who has been a militant vegan is hinting around about how cheep a pound of fish is. I suggested trying to grind flax seeds and put that in stuff but my husband doesnt think our 18 month old would digest that very well (he has a sensitive stomach). What do other people do? How do you afford to stay vegan and healthy on a tight budget? Rachael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 I would suggest that you buy golden flax seeds . Grind them in a coffee mill. And place the seeds over your cereal or greens. They are also good in smoothies. This is the best way to get the value of flax. Do not grind the seeds in advance . If you grind them at the time your about to use them they will serve your family the highest nutritional value. Enjoys , Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Rachael, thanks for bringing this up. I find it to be difficult as well. I buy Barlean's Forti-flax, 6.79 for 16 oz. My kids don't notice it, but they are a little older at 2 and 3. I really like it in pancakes and baked goods! I usually mix it in yogurt or with nut butter on crackers for the kids as a snack. The expense problem for us is compounded by the lack of selection in our area. Periodically I get really stressed out about not being able to afford everything I know I *should* be buying. But usually I am just resolved to do as much as I can. Food is the first priority. I don't buy a lot of pre-processed meat alternatives because they are expensive and full of preservatives. We eat them very occasionally. I do buy Beef Not, which is a dried ground beef alternative. It costs about a dollar for the equivalent of one pound once reconstituted. I like that it's dried instead of frozen and it's got great texture for chili, tacos, whatever. Anyway, I buy as much organic food as I can afford and when I have to choose conventional stuff I try to choose the foods we will eat less of there. Sometimes the money just doesn't stretch far enough to afford Nature's Gate and I end up with Herbal Essences instead. For us, feeding our little ones - and ourselves - the healthiest food possible sometimes has to take precedence over buying things like environmentally responsible paper towels. I hate having to make that choice, but it is our reality right now. I don't so this as much as I should, but making a meal plan really helps my organic dollar go farther. I do recommend that. And, of course, use what you buy, which is sometimes difficult too! You are certainly not alone!! Chessie - smartgirl27us Friday, September 16, 2005 12:00 PM Flax Oil I am curious how much people pay for flax oil or what you do to get your omega 3s? My family is on a tight budget and it seems that gas prices are not the only thing that has gone up recently. We are just flat broke lately trying to buy the foods that we usually buy. We find ourselves buying less and less organic, relying on costco for bulk quantities of boca burgers (which we used to not buy because they are Phillip Morris), etc, etc. Its amazing how your standards are so closely related to your budget!! Anyway, a midsize bottle of (12 or 16 oz?) flax oil is running around $15 in our area right now. With 4 people each consuming 1-2 Tbs several times a week, we just can't afford it. Now suddenly my husband, who has been a militant vegan is hinting around about how cheep a pound of fish is. I suggested trying to grind flax seeds and put that in stuff but my husband doesnt think our 18 month old would digest that very well (he has a sensitive stomach). What do other people do? How do you afford to stay vegan and healthy on a tight budget? Rachael For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Just a word of caution about cooking with flax seed oil; Oils high in essential fatty acids are not good for cooking. In fact, heat can turn these healthy fats into harmful ones. Add flax oil to foods after cooking and just before serving. Cooking with flax seeds there is no problem unless you don't grind the seeds first since our digestive systems do not digest whole flax seeds well if at all. Flax seeds can stand in for all of the oil or shortening called for in a recipe because of its high oil content. If a recipe calls for 1/3 c of oil, use 1 c of milled flax seed to replace the oil - a 3:1 substitution ratio. When flax seed is used instead of oil, baked goods tend to brown more rapidly so you'll need to watch the food a little more closely until you get used to the difference in times. God's Peace, Gayle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Flax loses it'd value once you heat it . Do not heat your flax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 Hi Racheal, This is one way to cut a little of the cost of those pricey Omega 3s. Your OBGYN might be able to put you on the prenatal vitamin (which are good for woman in general, preg or not) that contains Omegas. Your insurance may pay for them, or your doctor or nurse could hook you up with plenty of free samples. This way, at least your omega needs will be covered inexpensively, freeing up a little bit of your budget. I do not know if the vitamins are vegan. The pharm company probably is not cruelty free either. Can we ever win? Speaking of supplements, there are some otc vegan flax oil supplements out there, but I cannot remember how much I paid for them. I wonder if there are any rx ones (back to the health insurance footing some of the bill idea). Write to your favorite food manufacturers and ask for coupons. Morning Star Farms and Horizon Organics has sent me coupons just for filling out online surveys. Join freecycle.org, a . Most Freecycle groups have sister sites on which you can ask for specific coupons. People are more than happy to send or stockpile them for you to pick up. Every little bit helps. Friends or coworkers might even give you coupons for your kind of stuff if you ask them to. I'm terrible at remembering to use my coupons, but if you're organized you could save alot. I must admit, my two year old eats better than his parents sometimes. When money is tight, we still buy the pricey organic foods and flax and wheat germ oil, but my husband and I go without a little bit, and let our son eat the goods. Finding some great cook books and making foods from scratch or near scratch is a great way to save and have complete control over ingredients. I know its hard to find the time if you and your husband both work, but you could give it a try. My hubby and I rip through the grocery store grabbing up all the organic sale produce, tofu and dry goods that we can get our hands on, and then we go home and have a weekend cookoff, making and freezing some of our favorite meals. Packaged foods like veggie burgers, are always more expensive because you're paying for the marketing, and they usually have too much sodium. You and your husband could bang out a few dozen veggie burgers, " neat balls " , or flax waffles/muffins during your son's nap time and freeze them. Almost any prepackaged item can be replaced by a healthier homemade version, plus, you always have something frozen when you don't feel like cooking dinner, which wipes out the carry- out spending. I plan to begin making my own pasta, sauces and homemade crackers. You could occasionally haggle... When my son started on solid food, I gave him organic avacado (highly expensive - minimum $2.50ea) daily. Once at the grocery store, I noticed that their whole batch of organic avacados was way ripe and about to go bad any minute. I'm usually shy about haggling, but this time I asked the manager for a deal, and she let me buy the whole batch of 25 or so for 50 cents each! We had pureed green stuff for months! Finally, I read of a really cool idea in a magazine that you could try if you have friends or neighbors who are also vegan. This particular family teams up with like 4 or 5 neighboring families for a dinner co-op. Each family is assigned a weeknight on which they are responsible for cooking for the whole " team " . Everybody shows up at the cooks' house at a certain time to pick up the home made carry out. They say it saves them tons of time and money. I fully believe that we can eventually drive prices down by sticking to an organic, nutritionally superior, plant-based diet, and by encouraging our friends and family members to shop likewise. Every time I feel the pinch in our wallet I tell myself that we're supporting organic farmers, my veggie sisters and brothers, and sparing lives and the environment. Well, maybe not every time, but I try to tell myself that. Maybe one day the tables will turn and Happy Meals will be unaffordable while organic avacados will be a dime a dozen! I hope you'll find some creative ways to stay on board and especially find ways in which to continue your babies on the path of excellent nutrition. Sorry this was so wordy. I guess you struck a chord. Nikki , " smartgirl27us " <thesmartfamily3> wrote: > I am curious how much people pay for flax oil or what you do to get > your omega 3s? My family is on a tight budget and it seems that gas > prices are not the only thing that has gone up recently. We are just > flat broke lately trying to buy the foods that we usually buy. We > find ourselves buying less and less organic, relying on costco for > bulk quantities of boca burgers (which we used to not buy because they > are Phillip Morris), etc, etc. Its amazing how your standards are so > closely related to your budget!! Anyway, a midsize bottle of (12 or > 16 oz?) flax oil is running around $15 in our area right now. With 4 > people each consuming 1-2 Tbs several times a week, we just can't > afford it. Now suddenly my husband, who has been a militant vegan is > hinting around about how cheep a pound of fish is. I suggested trying > to grind flax seeds and put that in stuff but my husband doesnt think > our 18 month old would digest that very well (he has a sensitive > stomach). What do other people do? How do you afford to stay vegan > and healthy on a tight budget? > > Rachael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 I hear the tight budget! We are also on a tight budget - the price of the oil was equivilant to yoursand had to give up flax seed oil - I use preground seeds which tend to be a finer ground than my own ground seeds and put it in baked goods and on top of cereal. But, my daughter is older. Tofu and beans are much cheaper than meat or boca burgers - at least here they are - We eat a lot of beans, lentils, split peas, mung, pinto etc... and tofu - I have found the processed meats are very expensive so we have weeded those out with a rare treat of seitan - We are lucky that we have a farmers market and grow a lot of veggies on our own to suppliment the organic veggies. I wish you well- Wendi smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: I am curious how much people pay for flax oil or what you do to get your omega 3s? My family is on a tight budget and it seems that gas prices are not the only thing that has gone up recently. We are just flat broke lately trying to buy the foods that we usually buy. We find ourselves buying less and less organic, relying on costco for bulk quantities of boca burgers (which we used to not buy because they are Phillip Morris), etc, etc. Its amazing how your standards are so closely related to your budget!! Anyway, a midsize bottle of (12 or 16 oz?) flax oil is running around $15 in our area right now. With 4 people each consuming 1-2 Tbs several times a week, we just can't afford it. Now suddenly my husband, who has been a militant vegan is hinting around about how cheep a pound of fish is. I suggested trying to grind flax seeds and put that in stuff but my husband doesnt think our 18 month old would digest that very well (he has a sensitive stomach). What do other people do? How do you afford to stay vegan and healthy on a tight budget? Rachael For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Seitan is easy to make as well if you make the quick version. There is a recipe for it (and recipes for using it) at www.vrg.org I'm actually having it tonight for dinner! Jacqueline C. > > Wendi Johnson <vegforce3 > 2005/09/21 Wed PM 09:21:16 EST > > Re: Flax Oil > > I hear the tight budget! We are also on a tight budget - the price of the oil was equivilant to yoursand had to give up flax seed oil - I use preground seeds which tend to be a finer ground than my own ground seeds and put it in baked goods and on top of cereal. But, my daughter is older. Tofu and beans are much cheaper than meat or boca burgers - at least here they are - We eat a lot of beans, lentils, split peas, mung, pinto etc... and tofu - I have found the processed meats are very expensive so we have weeded those out with a rare treat of seitan - We are lucky that we have a farmers market and grow a lot of veggies on our own to suppliment the organic veggies. I wish you well- > Wendi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Flax Should not be heated!! Try to ground your own flax and use immediately for optimum nutritional value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 FWIW, we can't use flax in any form in our household because it gives one of my children explosive diarrhea. It's great for people with constipation, but not so good if one's constitution normally runs easily (shall we say!). And you lose so much nutrition with diarrhea that it's not worth the trouble. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Just like to share my experience with flax. I always slightly roast on very low heat and in the heavy bottom pan for few seconds. And then grind it. This is how I learned from my grand parents, and they told me that they learned from theirs. By doing so, flax and many other spices release their aroma which we enjoy more not by only eating but smelling as well. TheNutritionNut <thenutritionnut wrote:Only flax oil should not be heated from what I understand. Ground flax is fine to heat. I recently checked out an entire cookbook from the library that is all flax, the whole cookbook is all flax recipes. Besides that, I just went and looked at my package of ground flax. It says right on how great it is for you and to add it to any meal, including adding it to your baked goods (breads and muffins it says specifically). Plus I did search on google, and found no danger about heating ground flax. So when people are saying not to heat flax they should be a little more specific, as it appears that it is only the oil that shouldn't be heated above 120 degrees. You can indeed heat ground flax seends and you will still get the good omega's! Namaska7 wrote: Flax Should not be heated!! Try to ground your own flax and use immediately for optimum nutritional value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 My grandmother has always used flax seeds, and like manisha's grandparents, she toasts the seeds first. She said this releases the oils and sort of activates the fatty acids. Grandma claims that this is a necessary step, and I always do what Grandma tells me to do. Yes, one should not heat flax oil. N. , manisha <asiancurrypot> wrote: > Just like to share my experience with flax. I always slightly roast on very low heat and in the heavy bottom pan for few seconds. And then grind it. This is how I learned from my grand parents, and they told me that they learned from theirs. By doing so, flax and many other spices release their aroma which we enjoy more not by only eating but smelling as well. > > TheNutritionNut <thenutritionnut> wrote:Only flax oil should not be heated from what I understand. Ground flax is fine to heat. I recently checked out an entire cookbook from the library that is all flax, the whole cookbook is all flax recipes. Besides that, I just went and looked at my package of ground flax. It says right on how great it is for you and to add it to any meal, including adding it to your baked goods (breads and muffins it says specifically). Plus I did search on google, and found no danger about heating ground flax. > > So when people are saying not to heat flax they should be a little more specific, as it appears that it is only the oil that shouldn't be heated above 120 degrees. You can indeed heat ground flax seends and you will still get the good omega's! > > Namaska7@a... wrote: > Flax Should not be heated!! > Try to ground your own flax and use immediately for optimum nutritional > value > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Liz, Maybe you would have better luck with hemp. Check out: http://www.nutiva.com/nutrition/charts.php I sometimes get breakfast cereals that have hemp seeds in them. Hemp has more protein, but I generally go with milled flaxseeds because of the bonus fiber. I don't know enough about hemp vs flax to make an endorsement. Maybe somebody else can comment on that. I recall seeing some research suggesting that the balance of Omega 3 vs 6 is important. - Alan , " E.R. Bakwin " <bakwin@s...> wrote: > FWIW, we can't use flax in any form in our household because it gives one of my children explosive diarrhea. It's great for people with constipation, but not so good if one's constitution normally runs easily (shall we say!). And you lose so much nutrition with diarrhea that it's not worth the trouble. > > Liz > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 What is your recipe Kathleen? Please share it. Judy - Kathleen Pelley Sunday, August 13, 2006 9:32 PM flax oil I make mayonnaise out of flax oil. It is very tasty. I have also put it in other salad dressing. Kathleen greatyoga <greatyoga wrote: > Ooh yes, this was one of the sites I visited. I am curious about how the oil tastes. Everything I've read says it tastes very good. Recent Activity 72 New Members 113 New Files Visit Your Group TV Staying in tonight? Check Daily Picks & see what to watch. Need traffic? Drive customers With search ads on Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 I take a tablespoon of Flax Seed Oil daily. I just love the taste of it. It is great on a green salad too. Deanna , Kathleen Pelley <kmpelley wrote: > > I make mayonnaise out of flax oil. It is very tasty. I have also put it in other salad dressing. > > Kathleen > > greatyoga <greatyoga wrote: > > Ooh yes, this was one of the sites I visited. I am curious about > how the oil tastes. Everything I've read says it tastes very good. > > > > Recent Activity > > 72 > New Members > > 113 > New Files > > Visit Your Group > TV > Staying in tonight? > Check Daily Picks & > see what to watch. > > Need traffic? > Drive customers > With search ads > on > > > Start a group > in 3 easy steps. > Connect with others. > > > > . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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