Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 I went to the PETA site today from a link on someones sig line. I thought, " Hey, I love animals I'll check it out " Boy was that a mistake. First let me tell you something about me, I'm an animal lover. Not just the run of the mill " Awww......Cute Puppy " animal lover, but a BIG TIME animal lover. Hate Fur coats, leather stuff, the horrendous conditions that animals are kept in until their horrible death just so the Meat industry can make the big bucks. I use all Natural cleaning products and make up and will not use anything that is animal tested. I REALLY REALLY LOVE Animals. I have more compassion for animals then I do people to be honest. And I'd rather spend time with an animal any day then most people I know. We live in the country on an acre and I have about 45 chickens, 2 turkey's and 2 Guineas that live outside. They are not in a cage and they roam our property freely. I spend time with them and just don't throw them food and water. They each have a name and I hold them and pet them all. Well, not the turkeys or the guineas because they run from me, LOL. We do not eat our chickens and I sell their eggs to an organic food co-op, which doesnt even cover the cost of their food. But I don't care about that. INSIDE we have a Bunny Rabbit, a Hamster, 2 Goldfish, a parrot (small parrot a conure), 2 dogs (a Yorkie Pup and our 6 year old Yellow Lab) and 2 cats ( a year old Tort. Shell and a long haired Orange Tabby that is 7 years old and is the Queen). I tried to put the Bunny outside because I thought she would like it better but it was way to hot for her outside here in Florida. My husband has told me if I bring home one more animal he will pack his bags. So, as I was saying, I went to the PETA website today. I would love to do anything I could to help any animal that needs it. But I just could not even get past the first page. I literally started to cry while reading an article on the cats & dogs in China that are used for their fur and how they are treated. The pictures broke my heart. I imagined that one of those dogs or cats was my dog or cat and I had to stop looking. I guess I'm just not strong enough for that kind of thing. My husband has always joked about bailing me out of jail one day for taking part in a PETA protest. It's a big joke but after seeing what I saw today I don't think I could ever be THAT involved in PETA. It's literally repulsive to me and I just cannot handle it. It's way to sad. I know that it's bad of me because it's sadder for the animals then I will ever feel just seeing pictures. But seriously, can enough ever be done that it will stop this kind of thing? I just can't stand the thought of being involved in something like PETA and never seeing any progress. Does PETA actually get anywhere? Do they make a difference? Arent these big companies to big to be effected by things like PETA? I wish that I could save every animal in the world. Bless their hearts. But it's almost way to much for me to bare. I dont want to turn the other cheek because it's not fair to the animals, but how do you help when you literally break down at the thought of what some of these poor animals go through? I'm ashamed to say it to be honest. I wish I was stronger so I could do something to help them but I just don't know what I could do. I'd seriously walk around everyday crying like a baby if I knew everything that was happening to these poor animals. Are others this way and you just get past it over time? I want to help but really dont see how I can when I cant even look at the pictures without wanting to throw up. Roberta Underhill SaintCloud_Organics www.shaklee.net/robertaunderhill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 I completely agree. I don't understand how anyone could take one of those undercover jobs like that. There is no way that I could. My friend Mike just did a post on his blog http://mikewieringo.com/html/Blog.htm about the horrendous conditions of fur farming - and the evil people who support it. Renee --- ~ Roberta Underhill ~ <rradunderhill wrote: > I went to the PETA site today from a link on > someones sig line. I thought, " Hey, I love animals > I'll check it out " Boy was that a mistake. First let > me tell you something about me, I'm an animal lover. > Not just the run of the mill " Awww......Cute Puppy " > animal lover, but a BIG TIME animal lover. Hate Fur > coats, leather stuff, the horrendous conditions that > animals are kept in until their horrible death just > so the Meat industry can make the big bucks. I use > all Natural cleaning products and make up and will > not use anything that is animal tested. I REALLY > REALLY LOVE Animals. I have more compassion for > animals then I do people to be honest. And I'd > rather spend time with an animal any day then most > people I know. We live in the country on an acre and > I have about 45 chickens, 2 turkey's and 2 Guineas > that live outside. They are not in a cage and they > roam our property freely. I spend time with them and > just don't throw them food and water. They each have > a name and I hold them and pet them all. Well, not > the turkeys or the guineas because they run from me, > LOL. We do not eat our chickens and I sell their > eggs to an organic food co-op, which doesnt even > cover the cost of their food. But I don't care about > that. > > INSIDE we have a Bunny Rabbit, a Hamster, 2 > Goldfish, a parrot (small parrot a conure), 2 dogs > (a Yorkie Pup and our 6 year old Yellow Lab) and 2 > cats ( a year old Tort. Shell and a long haired > Orange Tabby that is 7 years old and is the Queen). > I tried to put the Bunny outside because I thought > she would like it better but it was way to hot for > her outside here in Florida. My husband has told me > if I bring home one more animal he will pack his > bags. > > So, as I was saying, I went to the PETA website > today. I would love to do anything I could to help > any animal that needs it. But I just could not even > get past the first page. I literally started to cry > while reading an article on the cats & dogs in China > that are used for their fur and how they are > treated. The pictures broke my heart. I imagined > that one of those dogs or cats was my dog or cat and > I had to stop looking. I guess I'm just not strong > enough for that kind of thing. My husband has always > joked about bailing me out of jail one day for > taking part in a PETA protest. It's a big joke but > after seeing what I saw today I don't think I could > ever be THAT involved in PETA. It's literally > repulsive to me and I just cannot handle it. It's > way to sad. I know that it's bad of me because it's > sadder for the animals then I will ever feel just > seeing pictures. But seriously, can enough ever be > done that it will stop this kind of thing? I just > can't stand the thought of being involved in > something like PETA and never seeing any progress. > Does PETA actually get anywhere? Do they make a > difference? Arent these big companies to big to be > effected by things like PETA? I wish that I could > save every animal in the world. Bless their hearts. > But it's almost way to much for me to bare. I dont > want to turn the other cheek because it's not fair > to the animals, but how do you help when you > literally break down at the thought of what some of > these poor animals go through? I'm ashamed to say it > to be honest. I wish I was stronger so I could do > something to help them but I just don't know what I > could do. I'd seriously walk around everyday crying > like a baby if I knew everything that was happening > to these poor animals. Are others this way and you > just get past it over time? I want to help but > really dont see how I can when I cant even look at > the pictures without wanting to throw up. > > Roberta Underhill > SaintCloud_Organics > www.shaklee.net/robertaunderhill > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 I agree with you Roberta about how sad and horrifying it is. My 11 year old and I watched peaceable kingdom together and cried until we couldn't cry anymore. It was the most awful thing I had ever seen. It did, however, turn my daughter vegan. I won't let the 8 year old watch it. She is too sensitive. I am a member of PETA and I do get thier news letters both snail mail and e-mail. It is very hard to read and to look at. I too am an animal lover and I consider myself an animal activist. But I don't think I could do rescues or go undercover at a slaughterhouse or any of the things that other very brave people do. Without those people nobody would know what was going on inside those murder houses. I read a story once about Lori Bauston, one of the founders of the Farm Sanctuary. It was about a tornado hitting a chicken factory and how hundreds of thousand of chickens, if not more, were left to die in cages they couldn't escape, with no food or water. Of course, the Farm Sanctuary went to rescue as many chickens as they could. And they did rescue many many chickens. But Lori talked about the one chicken that she just couldn't get to no matter how hard she tried. The cage was too twisted or the bird was too entangled or something. She had to leave the chicken behind after looking into it's eyes. She says that she will never forget that rescue operation and that chicken. She had actually stepped back some from the rescues. I guess one can only do that for so long. I couldn't do it at all, I'm tearing up just writing this. I am grateful, though, for those who do it. We went to the Farm Sanctuary over the summer and there were lots of happy chickens, turkeys, goats, sheep, pigs, cows and whatever else they have there beccause someone went into that horrible situation and got them. PETA does more than just rescue abused animals they also lobby at the state and federal levels for animal rights. I can do more of that. Whenever I get an alert from PETA regarding a governmental issue I do write to my relevant elected officials. Factory farmed animals have a horrible life. I imagine that is why many of us are vegan. But I do agree with you about the ability to look at it. ~ Roberta Underhill ~ <rradunderhill wrote: So, as I was saying, I went to the PETA website today. I would love to do anything I could to help any animal that needs it. But I just could not even get past the first page. I literally started to cry while reading an article on the cats & dogs in China that are used for their fur and how they are treated. The pictures broke my heart. Carol, mom to Melissa, 3/14/94 Julia, 2/18/97 Lily, 9/7/04 Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 I totally know how you feel. I think you are doing a great job by just loving the animals that you can and letting them have a good life. Also, you could just send PETA money. Money seems to be the way to get things done these days. That way, you can help without having to be horrified on a daily basis. I'm sure every little bit helps. - ~ Roberta Underhill ~ Monday, October 17, 2005 5:48 PM PETA !!! How can you do it????? I went to the PETA site today from a link on someones sig line. I thought, " Hey, I love animals I'll check it out " Boy was that a mistake. First let me tell you something about me, I'm an animal lover. Not just the run of the mill " Awww......Cute Puppy " animal lover, but a BIG TIME animal lover. Hate Fur coats, leather stuff, the horrendous conditions that animals are kept in until their horrible death just so the Meat industry can make the big bucks. I use all Natural cleaning products and make up and will not use anything that is animal tested. I REALLY REALLY LOVE Animals. I have more compassion for animals then I do people to be honest. And I'd rather spend time with an animal any day then most people I know. We live in the country on an acre and I have about 45 chickens, 2 turkey's and 2 Guineas that live outside. They are not in a cage and they roam our property freely. I spend time with them and just don't throw them food and water. They each have a name and I hold them and pet them all. Well, not the turkeys or the guineas because they run from me, LOL. We do not eat our chickens and I sell their eggs to an organic food co-op, which doesnt even cover the cost of their food. But I don't care about that. INSIDE we have a Bunny Rabbit, a Hamster, 2 Goldfish, a parrot (small parrot a conure), 2 dogs (a Yorkie Pup and our 6 year old Yellow Lab) and 2 cats ( a year old Tort. Shell and a long haired Orange Tabby that is 7 years old and is the Queen). I tried to put the Bunny outside because I thought she would like it better but it was way to hot for her outside here in Florida. My husband has told me if I bring home one more animal he will pack his bags. So, as I was saying, I went to the PETA website today. I would love to do anything I could to help any animal that needs it. But I just could not even get past the first page. I literally started to cry while reading an article on the cats & dogs in China that are used for their fur and how they are treated. The pictures broke my heart. I imagined that one of those dogs or cats was my dog or cat and I had to stop looking. I guess I'm just not strong enough for that kind of thing. My husband has always joked about bailing me out of jail one day for taking part in a PETA protest. It's a big joke but after seeing what I saw today I don't think I could ever be THAT involved in PETA. It's literally repulsive to me and I just cannot handle it. It's way to sad. I know that it's bad of me because it's sadder for the animals then I will ever feel just seeing pictures. But seriously, can enough ever be done that it will stop this kind of thing? I just can't stand the thought of being involved in something like PETA and never seeing any progress. Does PETA actually get anywhere? Do they make a difference? Arent these big companies to big to be effected by things like PETA? I wish that I could save every animal in the world. Bless their hearts. But it's almost way to much for me to bare. I dont want to turn the other cheek because it's not fair to the animals, but how do you help when you literally break down at the thought of what some of these poor animals go through? I'm ashamed to say it to be honest. I wish I was stronger so I could do something to help them but I just don't know what I could do. I'd seriously walk around everyday crying like a baby if I knew everything that was happening to these poor animals. Are others this way and you just get past it over time? I want to help but really dont see how I can when I cant even look at the pictures without wanting to throw up. Roberta Underhill SaintCloud_Organics www.shaklee.net/robertaunderhill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Hi Roberta - yes, the pictures and video - Meet your Meat - and others are extremely difficult to see - But unfortunately that is the reality for these beautiful, smart, amazing creatures that human beings have decided are to be their food and clothing - I showed a video to my daughternlaw yesterday and she left the room crying- I often cry uncontrolably - when my husband puts the video on for others - it is horrific- but - yes they have affect - Peta and its info - among others are part of the reason I switched from vegetarian to vegan - Peta helps animals nation wide in ways many of us are unable to because of time - family - work - they spread the word and info everywhere - people listen and change- my daughternlaw may not have changed today - but the kernal of truth is there and being a compassionate person - eventually will move over - In my opinion - supporting Peta -passing out thir flyers - giving information to all willing -to listen is a step in making this world more compassionate to all living beings - In my opinion they are the heroes because they are willing to say what is right and true and go out and do the most difficult job - saving animals and exposing evil for what it is - My family donates to peta and other groups and often participates in writing the people they recomend writing - we are not making a huge difference - but everytime we make concious/compassionate/considerate choices in what we eat, wear, say and who we support we are making a difference that will spread out and hopefully change the world - Wendi ~ Roberta Underhill ~ <rradunderhill wrote: I went to the PETA site today from a link on someones sig line. I thought, " Hey, I love animals I'll check it out " Boy was that a mistake. First let me tell you something about me, I'm an animal lover. Not just the run of the mill " Awww......Cute Puppy " animal lover, but a BIG TIME animal lover. Hate Fur coats, leather stuff, the horrendous conditions that animals are kept in until their horrible death just so the Meat industry can make the big bucks. I use all Natural cleaning products and make up and will not use anything that is animal tested. I REALLY REALLY LOVE Animals. I have more compassion for animals then I do people to be honest. And I'd rather spend time with an animal any day then most people I know. We live in the country on an acre and I have about 45 chickens, 2 turkey's and 2 Guineas that live outside. They are not in a cage and they roam our property freely. I spend time with them and just don't throw them food and water. They each have a name and I hold them and pet them all. Well, not the turkeys or the guineas because they run from me, LOL. We do not eat our chickens and I sell their eggs to an organic food co-op, which doesnt even cover the cost of their food. But I don't care about that. INSIDE we have a Bunny Rabbit, a Hamster, 2 Goldfish, a parrot (small parrot a conure), 2 dogs (a Yorkie Pup and our 6 year old Yellow Lab) and 2 cats ( a year old Tort. Shell and a long haired Orange Tabby that is 7 years old and is the Queen). I tried to put the Bunny outside because I thought she would like it better but it was way to hot for her outside here in Florida. My husband has told me if I bring home one more animal he will pack his bags. So, as I was saying, I went to the PETA website today. I would love to do anything I could to help any animal that needs it. But I just could not even get past the first page. I literally started to cry while reading an article on the cats & dogs in China that are used for their fur and how they are treated. The pictures broke my heart. I imagined that one of those dogs or cats was my dog or cat and I had to stop looking. I guess I'm just not strong enough for that kind of thing. My husband has always joked about bailing me out of jail one day for taking part in a PETA protest. It's a big joke but after seeing what I saw today I don't think I could ever be THAT involved in PETA. It's literally repulsive to me and I just cannot handle it. It's way to sad. I know that it's bad of me because it's sadder for the animals then I will ever feel just seeing pictures. But seriously, can enough ever be done that it will stop this kind of thing? I just can't stand the thought of being involved in something like PETA and never seeing any progress. Does PETA actually get anywhere? Do they make a difference? Arent these big companies to big to be effected by things like PETA? I wish that I could save every animal in the world. Bless their hearts. But it's almost way to much for me to bare. I dont want to turn the other cheek because it's not fair to the animals, but how do you help when you literally break down at the thought of what some of these poor animals go through? I'm ashamed to say it to be honest. I wish I was stronger so I could do something to help them but I just don't know what I could do. I'd seriously walk around everyday crying like a baby if I knew everything that was happening to these poor animals. Are others this way and you just get past it over time? I want to help but really dont see how I can when I cant even look at the pictures without wanting to throw up. Roberta Underhill SaintCloud_Organics www.shaklee.net/robertaunderhill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 I am guessing you didn't get a chance to watch the PETA video re. dogs and cats in China ending up in fur factories. I watched a few seconds of it and it was HORRIFYING! I am so thankful there are groups like PETA out there taking on these big businesses. I check out their site fairly regularly because I feel it would be wrong to be a vegetarian yet support businesses which have cruel practices toward animals (for example see their recent stories about J.Crew). Anyway, imo PETA is effective, you certainly hear about them on the news enough! Here is a link to their list of 'victories' it made me feel a little better reading all the success they have had. http://www.peta.org/about/victories.asp Barb , " ~ Roberta Underhill ~ " <rradunderhill@e...> wrote: > > I went to the PETA site today from a link on someones sig line. I thought, " Hey, I ................. I want to help but really dont see how I can when I cant even look at the pictures without wanting to throw up. > > Roberta Underhill > SaintCloud_Organics > www.shaklee.net/robertaunderhill > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 I didn't get a chance to watch it but I did get the update from them. I will go back and look at it. I did watch Peaceable Kingdom though and it was horrifying enough. It is more about animals raised in factory farms for use as food. Barb <barbtrek2 wrote:I am guessing you didn't get a chance to watch the PETA video re. dogs and cats in China ending up in fur factories. I watched a few seconds of it and it was HORRIFYING! I am so thankful there are groups like PETA out there taking on these big businesses. I check out their site fairly regularly because I feel it would be wrong to be a vegetarian yet support businesses which have cruel practices toward animals (for example see their recent stories about J.Crew). Anyway, imo PETA is effective, you certainly hear about them on the news enough! Here is a link to their list of 'victories' it made me feel a little better reading all the success they have had. http://www.peta.org/about/victories.asp Barb , " ~ Roberta Underhill ~ " <rradunderhill@e...> wrote: > > I went to the PETA site today from a link on someones sig line. I thought, " Hey, I ................. I want to help but really dont see how I can when I cant even look at the pictures without wanting to throw up. > > Roberta Underhill > SaintCloud_Organics > www.shaklee.net/robertaunderhill > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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