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I'm only sending this to the vegan parent groups that I belong to because I'm

not sure anyone else would get it. My 14 month old has poops that are different

from my older two. She is being raised vegan and the others weren't. She eats

lots of fruits and veggies as well as soy products and whole grain prducts like

whole wheat bread. I also give her peanut butter and some things with higher

fat content for her little growing brain. Did any of you experience diapers

that were soft and pasty rather than formed? I want to know if I should be

conerned and call the dr. she seems healthy in every way and is certainly

gaining weight. what do you think?

Carol

 

 

 

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Hi Carol,

 

I don't think you have anything to be concerned about. We had plenty of veggie

poop diapers that were exactly as you descibe. Veggie poop is generally softer

because of the higher fiber intake in veg diets. AH parenting, the biggest

adventure you'll ever have!

 

 

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Sounds normal enough to me from my own experience with my kids.

 

Jacqueline

 

 

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November 13, 2005 2:59 PM

Vegan Parenting; Vrgparents; veggiemamas

kind or yucky question

 

I'm only sending this to the vegan parent groups that I belong to because

I'm not sure anyone else would get it. My 14 month old has poops that are

different from my older two. She is being raised vegan and the others

weren't. She eats lots of fruits and veggies as well as soy products and

whole grain prducts like whole wheat bread. I also give her peanut butter

and some things with higher fat content for her little growing brain. Did

any of you experience diapers that were soft and pasty rather than formed?

I want to know if I should be conerned and call the dr. she seems healthy

in every way and is certainly gaining weight. what do you think?

Carol

 

 

 

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Carol,

Your and Katie's experience seems to be the norm. Of course, you

should watch for vomiting, inappetance, weight loss, stomach pain,

vague discomfort, increased looseness of the bowels and any other

signs of illness. If you are concerned and there are none of the

above symptons and you are not ready to seek medical advice, you may

wish to try a diet trial. Bananas, WHITE rice and soy are known for

their firming (and even constipating) qualities. You could try a diet

heavy on these foods for several days and see if there is a response.

Of course, you wouldn't want to do this if you think your child is

sick.

 

In his books, John McDougall, MD, describes the change in bowels when

adults move to a plant based diet. You could contact him through his

website for explanations that take your child's age into account.

 

I would arm myself with info before seeking medical advice. I had an

internal medicine specialist argue with me because she didn't know

the difference. She wanted to run all types of invasive tests on me.

There are definitely pathologic causes for a runny diaper, but this

can be normal as well. It is likely no big deal but being armed with

knowledge can help when dealing with well meaning relatives and

medical professionals.

 

My child didn't have this problem as an infant because I had to

supplement her breastmilk (and I used soy). So when she started

eating, her movements were very similar to an omnis. Now that she is

off soy formula, her movements have become typical of what you

describe.

 

Don't worry about the " Gross factor " of questions. This is a parent's

site. How many of us haven't obsessed with bodily functions?

 

Good luck,

Carrol

 

, Katie Mangan <kmangan33>

wrote:

>

> Hi Carol,

>

> I don't think you have anything to be concerned about. We had

plenty of veggie poop diapers that were exactly as you descibe.

Veggie poop is generally softer because of the higher fiber intake in

veg diets. AH parenting, the biggest adventure you'll ever have!

>

>

> Katie

> http://frugalveggiemama.blogspot.com

>

>

>

>

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My sixteen month old varies from soft and pasty to solid depending on

what she's been eating, and whether she's teething. She's been

drinking a lot of apple cider and eating sweet potatoes and that's

been giving her some rather fun diapers, like what you describe...

 

Angel A.

 

>I'm only sending this to the vegan parent groups that I belong to

>because I'm not sure anyone else would get it. My 14 month old has

>poops that are different from my older two. She is being raised

>vegan and the others weren't. She eats lots of fruits and veggies

>as well as soy products and whole grain prducts like whole wheat

>bread. I also give her peanut butter and some things with higher

>fat content for her little growing brain. Did any of you experience

>diapers that were soft and pasty rather than formed? I want to know

>if I should be conerned and call the dr. she seems healthy in every

>way and is certainly gaining weight. what do you think?

> Carol

>

>

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I just have to reply to this...my daughters who are ovo-lacto have always

had soft stools and they are 2.5 and 3.5 now. My older daughter tends more

toward constipation on occasion, but my youngest wouldn't know what a formed

stool was! It's funny because one or both of our toilets are always needing

a plunger. DH and I joke that rural Oklahoma toilets and sewers just aren't

built to handle vegetarian poop!

 

-

" Carrol " <rtillmansmail

 

Sunday, November 13, 2005 4:24 PM

Re: kind or yucky question

 

 

> Carol,

> Your and Katie's experience seems to be the norm. Of course, you

> should watch for vomiting, inappetance, weight loss, stomach pain,

> vague discomfort, increased looseness of the bowels and any other

> signs of illness. If you are concerned and there are none of the

> above symptons and you are not ready to seek medical advice, you may

> wish to try a diet trial. Bananas, WHITE rice and soy are known for

> their firming (and even constipating) qualities. You could try a diet

> heavy on these foods for several days and see if there is a response.

> Of course, you wouldn't want to do this if you think your child is

> sick.

>

> In his books, John McDougall, MD, describes the change in bowels when

> adults move to a plant based diet. You could contact him through his

> website for explanations that take your child's age into account.

>

> I would arm myself with info before seeking medical advice. I had an

> internal medicine specialist argue with me because she didn't know

> the difference. She wanted to run all types of invasive tests on me.

> There are definitely pathologic causes for a runny diaper, but this

> can be normal as well. It is likely no big deal but being armed with

> knowledge can help when dealing with well meaning relatives and

> medical professionals.

>

> My child didn't have this problem as an infant because I had to

> supplement her breastmilk (and I used soy). So when she started

> eating, her movements were very similar to an omnis. Now that she is

> off soy formula, her movements have become typical of what you

> describe.

>

> Don't worry about the " Gross factor " of questions. This is a parent's

> site. How many of us haven't obsessed with bodily functions?

>

> Good luck,

> Carrol

>

> , Katie Mangan <kmangan33>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Carol,

> >

> > I don't think you have anything to be concerned about. We had

> plenty of veggie poop diapers that were exactly as you descibe.

> Veggie poop is generally softer because of the higher fiber intake in

> veg diets. AH parenting, the biggest adventure you'll ever have!

> >

> >

> > Katie

> > http://frugalveggiemama.blogspot.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

> >

> >

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My youngest son, 5, is a frequent toilet clogger as well!

 

BTW low flow toilets present their own set of challenges when dealing with soft

stools (anyone with a low flow toilet knows what I'm talking about but for the

uniformed, they tend to leave a poop smear on the bottom of the bowl.) This

really defeats the purpose of a low flow toilet because the people in my house

just kept flushing to try and get rid of the offending stain. The solution? An

old ketchup bottom filled with plain water and kept in the bathroom for

squirting the bowl clean. I just had to share, I can't be the only one who

dealt with this.

 

You guys are great!

 

 

Katie

http://frugalveggiemama.blogspot.com

 

 

 

 

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Katie, what a great idea! Alternatively, and maybe a little grossly, the

" poop smear " will dissolve on its own if left to sit for a few minutes. ;-)

Ah, the blessing/curse of the low-flow toilet!

 

Chessie

 

 

On

Behalf Of Katie Mangan

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 6:22 AM

 

Re: Re: kind or yucky question

 

My youngest son, 5, is a frequent toilet clogger as well!

 

BTW low flow toilets present their own set of challenges when dealing with

soft stools (anyone with a low flow toilet knows what I'm talking about but

for the uniformed, they tend to leave a poop smear on the bottom of the

bowl.) This really defeats the purpose of a low flow toilet because the

people in my house just kept flushing to try and get rid of the offending

stain. The solution? An old ketchup bottom filled with plain water and

kept in the bathroom for squirting the bowl clean. I just had to share, I

can't be the only one who dealt with this.

 

You guys are great!

 

 

Katie

http://frugalveggiemama.blogspot.com

 

 

 

 

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Chessie,

 

Oh I totally agree with you that the poop smear will dissapear but I had a great

deal of trouble convincing my two teenage daughters that it would! They weren't

going to leave the bathroom until the toilet was clean, otherwise someone might

know that they pooped! (I've thought about reading them that book " Everybody

Poops " )

 

There's nothing like teenage daughters to make you look at the world

differently.

 

Katie

Chessie <vegetariyum wrote:

Katie, what a great idea! Alternatively, and maybe a little grossly, the

" poop smear " will dissolve on its own if left to sit for a few minutes. ;-)

Ah, the blessing/curse of the low-flow toilet!

 

Chessie

 

Katie

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Katie, so true about teenage girls! My daughters love that book, and we

also have its companion, " The Gas We Pass. " They are too funny! I can

totally see your daughters squirting water on the smear and walking out of

the bathroom, pretending that they've been doing something like combing

their hair instead of pooping!

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Katie Mangan

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:05 PM

 

RE: Re: kind or yucky question

 

Chessie,

 

Oh I totally agree with you that the poop smear will dissapear but I had a

great deal of trouble convincing my two teenage daughters that it would!

They weren't going to leave the bathroom until the toilet was clean,

otherwise someone might know that they pooped! (I've thought about reading

them that book " Everybody Poops " )

 

There's nothing like teenage daughters to make you look at the world

differently.

 

Katie

Chessie <vegetariyum wrote:

Katie, what a great idea! Alternatively, and maybe a little grossly, the

" poop smear " will dissolve on its own if left to sit for a few minutes. ;-)

Ah, the blessing/curse of the low-flow toilet!

 

Chessie

 

Katie

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LOL Katie. When I first had a boyfriend at 16, he didn't know I used the

bathroom until we had been dating for about 6 months. I just wouldn't go

when he was around. Probably not at all good for my inner workings.

 

Jacqueline C.

 

 

On

Behalf Of Katie Mangan

November 15, 2005 2:05 PM

 

RE: Re: kind or yucky question

 

Chessie,

 

Oh I totally agree with you that the poop smear will dissapear but I had a

great deal of trouble convincing my two teenage daughters that it would!

They weren't going to leave the bathroom until the toilet was clean,

otherwise someone might know that they pooped! (I've thought about reading

them that book " Everybody Poops " )

 

There's nothing like teenage daughters to make you look at the world

differently.

 

Katie

Chessie <vegetariyum wrote:

Katie, what a great idea! Alternatively, and maybe a little grossly, the

" poop smear " will dissolve on its own if left to sit for a few minutes. ;-)

Ah, the blessing/curse of the low-flow toilet!

 

Chessie

 

Katie

http://frugalveggiemama.blogspot.com

 

 

 

 

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