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Being hungry is my stumbling block. All the websites and books tell

you what to do. Not ONE tell you how you go about it. <sarcasm

mode>Oh, gosh, eat less. Why didn't *I* think of that!!!??!! Sure. No

prob. Now that I know that's all it takes, I'll just dive right

in.<end sarcasm mode>

 

Being hungry is more than just a little uncomfortable to me. It

frightens me. It makes me psychologically miserable. Sometimes I can

deal with it for weeks, sometimes for months. The last 2 months I

haven't been able to deal with it at all and I've gained 10 lbs.

 

I doubt if there is a Final Answer to this one, but I'd be interested

in how others deal with this problem.

 

Susan

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Susan,

I feel strange replying to your posts.. kinda like taking to myself, but

different. lol

 

I have recently decided not to eat unless I actually get hungry. I'm kinda

liking the feeling of an empty stomach. It is a feeling quite alien to me.

When my tummy rumbles it doesn't scare me, it kinda intrigues me. I know

that I can get food and that IM not going to starve to death (unlike some

people on this planet) but I like the thought that I have not focused on food

for such a long period of time that my body has actually used all that I have

given it.

 

Susan, a strange puppy in VA =o)

 

 

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Hi, Susan!

My name is Laura H and I weigh 180 lbs and my goal is to lose 40 lbs

and keep them off over the next year while maintaining a healthy

vegetarian lifestyle. One good way to ensure that you are getting

enough to eat and always have snacks on hand is to eat a lot of

veggies. While losing weight I try to eat a salad everyday and

measure out my dressing. I have a 12 oz. salad at dinner time before

my meal. I use a full fat dressing, but one that does not contain

sugar!! 2 Tbsp only. I use Lily's Northern Italian (avoid creamy

dressings) or make your own with Canola/olive oil, vinegar and

spices. I find that weighing and measuring helps ensure that I am

eating an acurate portion. Snack frequently on vegetables. Make

sure you have them at every meal. Allow yourself good whole foods

instead of concentrating on eating a low calorie diet. I have also

switched from a lot of dairy to eating soy products. I allow myself

veggie shreds in place of real cheese and don't have to worry about

the fat. Try a 12oz. salad w/ two tbsp of dressing, a sweet potato

w/ some cinnamon 1/2 cup of spicy beans and rice, and 8 oz. of

steamed spinach for dinner and tell me you are not full! LOL!

Good luck and don't starve!! Oh, yeah, don't forget to drink lots of

water.

BB. Laura H

 

P.S. Read " Food " by Susan Powter

 

, Susan Cogan <susan-

brassfield@o...> wrote:

> Being hungry is my stumbling block. All the websites and books tell

> you what to do. Not ONE tell you how you go about it. <sarcasm

> mode>Oh, gosh, eat less. Why didn't *I* think of that!!!??!! Sure.

No

> prob. Now that I know that's all it takes, I'll just dive right

> in.<end sarcasm mode>

>

> Being hungry is more than just a little uncomfortable to me. It

> frightens me. It makes me psychologically miserable. Sometimes I

can

> deal with it for weeks, sometimes for months. The last 2 months I

> haven't been able to deal with it at all and I've gained 10 lbs.

>

> I doubt if there is a Final Answer to this one, but I'd be

interested

> in how others deal with this problem.

>

> Susan

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> Please visit my website:

> http://members.cox.net/sbcogan

>

> Also, check out an excerpt of " Jubilee, " which will be published in

> the next few months:

> http://members.cox.net/sbcogan/writing.html

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Susan

Here's a couple tricks I use:

Are you having a serving of fruit 2-3 times a day? If I eat a meal

and then a couple hours later eat a piece of fruit, it's meal time

before I'm hungry again. And I never feel 'guilty'. Fruits are good

for me and besides, they're easy traveling & I enjoy fruit. The key

for me is just maintaining a variety of diff fruits so I don't get

bored w/ the same old stuff.

Here's something else I do from time to time although I prefer the

fruit thang. A friend of mine has great success with this, but I usu

wind up feeling like my busy schedule prevents me from continuing

with this method. Instead of eating 3 meals, try eating 6 little

meals. I never even feel hunger pains when I do this b/c you're

eating a 'meal' so often. I end up eventually eating less this way as

well b/c I never feel like I'm starving.

Hope this helps or gives you a couple ideas about what might work for

you!

karen :)

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And for those between-snack snacks ;=) carrot sticks and celery sticks,

etc., are very portable in a ziploc bag- and then you don't even have to

feel guilty about cheating on your meal and fruit regime ;=) Just

*don't* let yourself get hungry.

 

best,

pat

 

> a couple hours later eat a piece of fruit, it's meal time

> before I'm hungry again. And I never feel 'guilty'. Fruits are good

> for me and besides, they're easy traveling

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> but I like the thought that I have not focused on food

> for such a long period of time that my body has actually used all that I have

> given it.

>

 

Yes, I kind of get a buzz off 'hunger' or an empty stomach too. But

there were years when being 'hungry' made me feel nervy and upset and/or

depressed - the whole gamut of emotions. When I was there I found it

best to snack on something bulky - fruit, carrots, celery - to alleviate

that. Of course, some people need a protein kick more often than others

- a medical thingie . . .

 

Y'know, we must be the only animals who panic at the idea of having an

empty stomach. Some animals happily go for days without eating - then

they go hunting again.

 

best,

pat

 

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, Susan Cogan <susan-

brassfield@o...> wrote:

> Being hungry is my stumbling block. All the websites and books

tell

> you what to do. Not ONE tell you how you go about it.

 

I agree - there's not enough info. here's what i know:

 

you can shrink your stomach, and therefore not need enough food to

fill you up if you start to eat less. Don't begin by starving

yourself because your body literally thinks your going to starve and

slows down your metabolic rate so you hold onto fat etc for longer!

Cut down the size of your meals very gradually, maybe so you'll

hardly notice it at first, and you'll begin to get used to smaller

portions.

A way of helping this is to eat slowly. It takes about 10-20

minutes (according to different experts) for your body to register

its full. What this means is that when your stomach is full, you

will carry on eating for 10-20 minutes afterwards (think of how much

food this could be!) until you " feel " full.

What happens is, the stomach expands and sensors in the walls of the

stomach feel the expansion and then, i believe, release hormones to

the brain to say its full. The brain then responds by releasing

hormones in response which trigger the stomach to produce the

sensation of feeling full. This process takes a while which is why

it helps to eat slowly. (i think i'm right about this, if i'm not

feel free to chime in)

 

Hope this helps,

take care,

 

Laura xx

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It has been proven that you can not physically "shrink your stomach". That is a myth that has been floating around for many years... you can as you indicated train yourself to eat better portion sizes but you cannot make your stomach smaller. >you can shrink your stomach, and therefore not need enough food to >fill you up if you start to eat less.

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Apologees for giving false information. I read this in a book, and

i guess they weren't very well informed. Just goes to show you

shouldn't believe everything you read!

Thanks for pointing that out :)

 

, <amurphey@p...> wrote:

> It has been proven that you can not physically " shrink your

stomach " .

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I just worry when I hear people say that one because it's an old one that never seems to die. it's a very dangerous myths... something than many people with anorexia believe and live by... they think "if I can just get my stomach to shrink, I will been so full when I eat that 1/2 cup of applesauce that will be my only food today..."

 

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Re: Being hungry

Apologees for giving false information. I read this in a book, and i guess they weren't very well informed. Just goes to show you shouldn't believe everything you read!Thanks for pointing that out :) , <amurphey@p...> wrote:> It has been proven that you can not physically "shrink your stomach".

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Well you might not be able to 'shrink' your stomach, but you can

certainly shrink your appetite ;=) I usually take about three or four

days to gradually decrease the amount of food I eat, then keep to the

amount I have decided is good for me to lose weight. (I am a firm

believer in smaller portions - although I am careful about oils when I

am trying to lose weight too) If I cut down on the first day, as I have

done in the distant distant past, I am maddeningly hungry. Doing it over

time seems indeed to 'shrink' the stomach in that it certainly 'shrinks'

my feeling of emptiness. Maybe that's what people who talk about and

write about this mean . . .

 

Anyway, the deal is not to 'starve' yourself - small meals more often

work best for me ;=) I am aware there are other ways - and whatever

works works ;=)

 

best,

pat

 

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Why is it then that after I ate almost nothing for 4 days (surgery and then

the flu), that I couldn't eat very much at all, and then I would feel

extremely full. I thought you could " shrink " your stomache, because it's like

a balloon,.

~Sara

 

<< It has been proven that you can not physically " shrink your stomach " . That

is a myth that has been floating around for many years... you can as you

indicated train yourself to eat better portion sizes but you cannot make your

stomach smaller. >>

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