Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 I was reading back through the posts and there was mention of how to calculate your BMI. I have no idea how it's done but below is a link that has a BMI calculator on it: http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm It supports both American and Metric measurements. Alas, I'm still overweight but working on it! I'm definitely out of my rut... back to working out regularly and eating more healthily. My mini-goal right now is working on banishing all trans-fats from my diet. I found a margarine that contains no trans-fats (Fleishmann's Olive Oil Spread), as it said on the front. Upon further inspection, down in the list of ingredients it has in it partially hydronated oil. The little * next to the ingredient says provides an unsubstantial amt of trans fats. Call me crazy, but I thought no amt was acceptable. Wondering if it's still ok to eat this or if I should just switch to something like Earth Balance or something. Any info/opinions on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Pat, I am sure healthy BMI for a woman is between 20 and 25. Congratulations! What an accomplishment! As soon as the word healthy appears beside my weight, I figure I can ease up the pressure I put on myself. Body fat is another great way to feel better about our weight, and the healthy range is really big, usually 15-25%. I, too, am looking at veganism as a weight loss tool, I think it is a good way to start, though I suspect many vegans might take offense at the motivation. I made an "uncheeze" sauce the other day for my broccoli, using yeast flakes. It wasn't exactly cheezy tasting, but it had the creamy "mouthfeel" I was looking for. I would make it again, though my kids aren't fooled by it. I gave up butter and margarine when my baby was born almost two years ago. It was probably the hardest food change I've made, way harder than becoming a vegetarian. I figure if I can do that, I can give up cheese and milk, too. Eggs will be harder, as they are a food the whole family likes and they make a quick supper. Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Hi there! This is really funny. Yesterday I hit a new 'low' on my scale and wondered where it placed me re my BMI so I went to the web and found this link - different from yours, but I'm sure it's kinda okay. (I'll check out yours too because I found another link that did the calculation too but it had a different interpretation of what the various ranges of BMI meant *lol* I'll take the best one, right????) http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm Anyway, it's a good idea to get a hint at where one might be at re the BMI. A lot of doctors set store by it, so . . . Of course, you can have a shape like the michelin man and have the same BMI as Arnie (I'd prefer the michelin man, but that's just me) - but it gives you something to aim for. For the first time in a gazillion years I'm smack in the 24s - 24.5 BMI. Nothing to brag about, but a lot better than what it used to be ;=) So what I'm trying to say is thanks, thanks so much for this BMI calculator. I shoulda sent my link on yesterday but it slipped my mind :=( (My *WHAT*???) Re the margarine/butteryspread: We use Earth Balance cuz we couldn't find anything else around here that had no dairy, such as whey, in it. (Okay, not exactly 'vegan' by a long shot, but still avoiding dairy *lol* I find it helps with the weight loss, cuz it means no cheese.) Anyway, I don't have enough info to help you with your question about the fats right now. Maybe someone else can help??? Best, Pat ;=) bluetulipz wrote: > > I was reading back through the posts and there was mention of how to > calculate your BMI. I have no idea how it's done but below is a link > that has a BMI calculator on it: > > http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm > > It supports both American and Metric measurements. > > Alas, I'm still overweight but working on it! I'm definitely out of > my rut... back to working out regularly and eating more healthily. My > mini-goal right now is working on banishing all trans-fats from my > diet. I found a margarine that contains no trans-fats (Fleishmann's > Olive Oil Spread), as it said on the front. Upon further inspection, > down in the list of ingredients it has in it partially hydronated > oil. The little * next to the ingredient says provides an > unsubstantial amt of trans fats. Call me crazy, but I thought no amt > was acceptable. Wondering if it's still ok to eat this or if I should > just switch to something like Earth Balance or something. Any > info/opinions on this? > -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ vegetarianslimming/ HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " (Franz Fanon) * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " (Albert Schweitzer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 I like your BMI calculator better ;=) It's laid out nicely - and I like the idea of the BMI appearing in the heart shape - kinda reminds one what it's all about! Yours is (for those who haven't saved the last message): http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm Best, Pat ;=) -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ vegetarianslimming/ HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " (Franz Fanon) * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " (Albert Schweitzer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Thanks for the support about my weight loss ;=) I have quite a way to go yet, though :=( Nevertheless, I a congratulating myself rather than not, and I am looking forward to keeping up my current good work. When it works, it all seems worth while. It's a bitch when one stays at the same weight for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and - well, you know ;=) About vegans and the motivation: I'm not sure quite yet what my motivation is. I think it is aesthetic. I don't *like* the idea of eggs and dairy these days - in much the same way as some twenty to twenty-five years ago I started to dislike the idea of me*t. That turned pretty quickly into full fledged vegetarianism. (Some backslides, I am always hasty to add, but nevertheless . . . ) I figure that the animals benefit regardless of my motivation and I'm not hassling myself about it right now. It is just a fact that, for weightloss, I'm better off not eating cheese ;=) As for eggs, I'm lucky in that I really don't much care for the taste and/or smell of them, and haven't been able to enjoy them for about forty years. Since the egg production business is not for the benefit of the chickens, I figure that's okay too. It doesn't matter that my motivation to leave them alone is *dislike* of them. They still don't get eaten by me. And in any case, I can't see how I could learn to like them now anyway :=( But oh yes I agree, they are the ultimate Convenience Food!!! Would vegans be distressed by my motivation or non-motivation for avoiding eggs and dairy? Doesn't much matter, really. I don't call myself a vegan and I don't ask anyone to approve what I *don't* eat, if you know what I mean ;=) However, for the benefit of the vegans on this list, I should point out that I have a healthy respect for them all - and I would *never* explain to omnivores my reasons or non-reasons for my avoidance of eggs and dairy any more than I do now for my avoidance of me*t except to say that I prefer not to *lol* Best, Pat lindiny wrote: > > Pat, > > I am sure healthy BMI for a woman is between 20 and 25. > Congratulations! What an accomplishment! As soon as the word healthy > appears beside my weight, I figure I can ease up the pressure I put on > myself. > > Body fat is another great way to feel better about our weight, and the > healthy range is really big, usually 15-25%. > > I, too, am looking at veganism as a weight loss tool, I think it is a > good way to start, though I suspect many vegans might take offense at > the motivation. I made an " uncheeze " sauce the other day for my > broccoli, using yeast flakes. It wasn't exactly cheezy tasting, but > it had the creamy " mouthfeel " I was looking for. I would make it > again, though my kids aren't fooled by it. > > I gave up butter and margarine when my baby was born almost two years > ago. It was probably the hardest food change I've made, way harder > than becoming a vegetarian. I figure if I can do that, I can give up > cheese and milk, too. Eggs will be harder, as they are a food the > whole family likes and they make a quick supper. > > Linda -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ vegetarianslimming/ HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " (Franz Fanon) * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " (Albert Schweitzer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 There are plenty of vegans who are vegans for health reasons, so I wouldn't worry about it it'll still be helping the animals, whatever the reason. I hesitate about calling myself vegan these days as I feed animals to my dogs - they didn't take to a vegan diet tho I haven't given up hope of being able to "convert" one of them. Viv, Ellie & Cody "You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji" lindiny [lindiny]Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:43 PM Subject: Re: BMI Calculator & Trans-FatsPat,I am sure healthy BMI for a woman is between 20 and 25. Congratulations! What an accomplishment! As soon as the word healthy appears beside my weight, I figure I can ease up the pressure I put on myself. Body fat is another great way to feel better about our weight, and the healthy range is really big, usually 15-25%. I, too, am looking at veganism as a weight loss tool, I think it is a good way to start, though I suspect many vegans might take offense at the motivation. I made an "uncheeze" sauce the other day for my broccoli, using yeast flakes. It wasn't exactly cheezy tasting, but it had the creamy "mouthfeel" I was looking for. I would make it again, though my kids aren't fooled by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 p.s. it might not work - I've got 3stone to lose... Viv, Ellie & Cody "You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji" lindiny [lindiny]Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:43 PM Subject: Re: BMI Calculator & Trans-FatsPat,I am sure healthy BMI for a woman is between 20 and 25. Congratulations! What an accomplishment! As soon as the word healthy appears beside my weight, I figure I can ease up the pressure I put on myself. Body fat is another great way to feel better about our weight, and the healthy range is really big, usually 15-25%. I, too, am looking at veganism as a weight loss tool, I think it is a good way to start, though I suspect many vegans might take offense at the motivation. I made an "uncheeze" sauce the other day for my broccoli, using yeast flakes. It wasn't exactly cheezy tasting, but it had the creamy "mouthfeel" I was looking for. I would make it again, though my kids aren't fooled by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 YOU are vegan Viv, but your dogs aren't! LOL!! I think people aren't really meant to eat meat but dogs are more omnivorous. But, to each his own. I cook for my dogs, meat, gag... but it keeps them healthy. I want to start finding more *cruelty free* ways to feed (free range, etc). peace nikki ( & zoë & blue the chihuahuas) Viv [vc27]Tuesday, January 20, 2004 5:51 PM Subject: RE: BMI Calculator & Trans-Fats There are plenty of vegans who are vegans for health reasons, so I wouldn't worry about it it'll still be helping the animals, whatever the reason. I hesitate about calling myself vegan these days as I feed animals to my dogs - they didn't take to a vegan diet tho I haven't given up hope of being able to "convert" one of them. Viv, Ellie & Cody "You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji" lindiny [lindiny]Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:43 PM Subject: Re: BMI Calculator & Trans-FatsPat,I am sure healthy BMI for a woman is between 20 and 25. Congratulations! What an accomplishment! As soon as the word healthy appears beside my weight, I figure I can ease up the pressure I put on myself. Body fat is another great way to feel better about our weight, and the healthy range is really big, usually 15-25%. I, too, am looking at veganism as a weight loss tool, I think it is a good way to start, though I suspect many vegans might take offense at the motivation. I made an "uncheeze" sauce the other day for my broccoli, using yeast flakes. It wasn't exactly cheezy tasting, but it had the creamy "mouthfeel" I was looking for. I would make it again, though my kids aren't fooled by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Three stone to lose, Viv? Oh well, that's not so bad. I've been there, done that, this last three years - and if I can do it damned near anyone can, believe me ;=) Starting January 2001 I lost something like 2 stone (that's 28 pounds or 13 kgs for those of you who aren't rock-enabled) over the next several months by cutting back on portion size and cutting out excess fats, sugars, etc. And wine. Sigggghhh. I can't drink wine and lose weight ;=( I absolutely terrified the neighbours when I was able to remove my winter coat in the spring - they wondered where I'd disappeared to! Great fun ;=) (Hey, that's worth doing again, now that I think of it, just for that fun alone *lol*) Anyway, altogether I have lost something like 25 kgs (55 lbs., or nearly four stone), 2 kgs (4.4 lbs) since New Year this year. It just takes time, that's all. Siggghhhh. Did I ask - are you on a special diet? Best, Pat ;=) -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ vegetarianslimming/ HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " (Franz Fanon) * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " (Albert Schweitzer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Viv, good luck with your weight loss efforts & journey toward better health. I know when a person has quite a bit to lose, it might seem a bit overwhelming, but I think it really helps to set smaller goals & just focus on having healthy days...one day at a time. Pat, Congratulations on your weight loss!! (And thanks for the translation for those of us who are not " rock-enabled " :-). 55 pounds is an awesome accomplishment...you must feel great!! I, too, used the BMI calculator to help me to determine some sort of goal. When I first started trying to lose some weight & become more healthy, I really didn't have a weight goal in mind at all. I knew I should drop somewhere between 25 & 40 pounds (2+ stones?), but I really didn't know what would be a good healthy spot for me. Instead of setting a goal weight, I just first aimed to hit that " healthy " range within the BMI charts. Once I got to that point, I felt I still could stand to shed a little more, so aimed at ending up somewhere in the middle of the " healthy " range. My weight hasn't moved since well before the holidays now....it seems to want to stay where it is, & I'm getting comfortable with where I'm at (133 pounds...have lost about 31 pounds). I know the BMI chart is just another tool for us to use & isn't perfect, but I really do feel it's been helpful to me. Again, Congrats Pat, on a job well done, & continued good luck to you. Viv, wishing you the best as well!! Sheri , Sant & Brown <santbrown@l...> wrote: > Three stone to lose, Viv? Oh well, that's not so bad. I've been there, > done that, this last three years - and if I can do it damned near anyone > can, believe me ;=) Starting January 2001 I lost something like 2 stone > (that's 28 pounds or 13 kgs for those of you who aren't rock- enabled) > over the next several months by cutting back on portion size and cutting > out excess fats, sugars, etc. And wine. Sigggghhh. I can't drink wine > and lose weight ;=( I absolutely terrified the neighbours when I was > able to remove my winter coat in the spring - they wondered where I'd > disappeared to! Great fun ;=) (Hey, that's worth doing again, now that I > think of it, just for that fun alone *lol*) > > Anyway, altogether I have lost something like 25 kgs (55 lbs., or nearly > four stone), 2 kgs (4.4 lbs) since New Year this year. It just takes > time, that's all. Siggghhhh. > > Did I ask - are you on a special diet? > > Best, > Pat ;=) > > -- > SANTBROWN@L... > townhounds/ > vegetarianslimming/ > HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ > ---------- > * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have > the burden of proving it. " (Franz Fanon) > * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man > will not himself find peace. " (Albert Schweitzer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Thanks so much ;=) What a nice thing to say - made my morning ;=) Best love, Pat ;=) > Pat, Congratulations on your weight loss!! (And thanks for the > translation for those of us who are not " rock-enabled " :-). 55 > pounds is an awesome accomplishment...you must feel great!! -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ vegetarianslimming/ HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " (Franz Fanon) * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " (Albert Schweitzer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Unfortunately, I've lost 1-2.5 stone a couple of times & put it back on again with an extra half stone each time. So if I'd never dieted I'd be 1.5 stone lighter now! I'm now aiming to take it off with a Slimming World diet - not going to classes, costs too much! - then address the reasons why I overeat. Tho I am already working on the overeating - been much better lately, but I have a portion-size problem! Well done on your weight loss! Viv, Ellie & Cody " You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji " Sant & Brown [santbrown] Wednesday, January 21, 2004 2:35 PM Re: BMI Calculator & Trans-Fats Three stone to lose, Viv? Oh well, that's not so bad. I've been there, done that, this last three years - and if I can do it damned near anyone can, believe me ;=) Starting January 2001 I lost something like 2 stone (that's 28 pounds or 13 kgs for those of you who aren't rock-enabled) over the next several months by cutting back on portion size and cutting out excess fats, sugars, etc. And wine. Sigggghhh. I can't drink wine and lose weight ;=( I absolutely terrified the neighbours when I was able to remove my winter coat in the spring - they wondered where I'd disappeared to! Great fun ;=) (Hey, that's worth doing again, now that I think of it, just for that fun alone *lol*) Anyway, altogether I have lost something like 25 kgs (55 lbs., or nearly four stone), 2 kgs (4.4 lbs) since New Year this year. It just takes time, that's all. Siggghhhh. Did I ask - are you on a special diet? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release 08/01/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Oh lordie :=( I want to laugh but it's too tragic. Good for you for giving it another serious try!! Best love, Pat ;=) > Unfortunately, I've lost 1-2.5 stone a couple of times & put it back on > again with an extra half stone each time. So if I'd never dieted I'd be 1.5 > stone lighter now! -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ vegetarianslimming/ HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " (Franz Fanon) * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " (Albert Schweitzer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 You've gotta laugh tho, otherwise it *would* be tragic! Viv, Ellie & Cody " You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji " Sant & Brown [santbrown] Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:32 PM Re: BMI Calculator & Trans-Fats Oh lordie :=( I want to laugh but it's too tragic. Good for you for giving it another serious try!! Best love, Pat ;=) > Unfortunately, I've lost 1-2.5 stone a couple of times & put it back on > again with an extra half stone each time. So if I'd never dieted I'd be 1.5 > stone lighter now! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release 08/01/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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