Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Just to remind us . . . . Best, Pat ;=) --------- Protein Paranoia http://www.ecologos.org/pp.htm Industrial countries in general, and victims of British colonialism in particular, including the US, have been the targets of massive pro-protein propaganda. How this started is unknown, just as how the human species first began eating animal flesh is forever unknowable, but perhaps the Commoners' blood-lust was exacerbated by . . . Read on for how much protein, etc. etc. http://www.ecologos.org/pp.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Hmm...that suggested no beans. I'm not sure I want to eat just fruits, veggies, rice & nuts. Interesting reading, tho. Pat <veggiehound wrote: Just to remind us . . . . Best, Pat ;=) --------- Protein Paranoia http://www.ecologos.org/pp.htm Industrial countries in general, and victims of British colonialism in particular, including the US, have been the targets of massive pro-protein propaganda. How this started is unknown, just as how the human species first began eating animal flesh is forever unknowable, but perhaps the Commoners' blood-lust was exacerbated by . . . Read on for how much protein, etc. etc. http://www.ecologos.org/pp.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 > Hmm...that suggested no beans. I'm not sure I want to eat just fruits, veggies, rice & nuts. Interesting reading, tho. Did it suggest no beans? :=( I must read again!!! I would miss my beans and lentils - wonderful foods! Maybe we just don't NEED them as much as we think? In any case, I'll look again. Yes, I thought interesting - perhaps provocative ;=) I want my beanz! Best, Pat ;=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 The original vegetarians of the western world (I believe Janism in India predates this), the Pythagorean order (yes -- the triangle guy) from the 6th century BCE until its demise in the Roman period practiced a variety of vegetarianism that prohibited beans, seeds and flowers. Because of the role of these things in the reproduction of plants, they felt that consuming these things also constituted " taking life. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 I must read again!!! At the very bottom is the chart of foods to avoid & beans is among them (too much protein therefore too difficult to metabolize/digest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 > At the very bottom is the chart of foods to avoid & beans is among them (too much protein therefore too difficult to metabolize/digest. Ahh yessss. It also says in part: 'As one gains personal experience with a low-protein, plant-based diet, one comes to understand that concentrated proteins, i.e., those greater than about 1%, cannot be digested properly, and that one is much healthier with proteins supplied by fruits and vegetables than attempting to get 'sufficient' protein through concentrated sources, such as nuts/seeds, beans, legumes, etc. ' But then goes back to talk about the 'cowboy culture'. I think it is true that we can do without these foods - nuts/seeds, beans, legumes, etc. And I think it is true that we can, in some people's estimation, be healthier on a diet that excludes them - just as some feel that a fruitarian diet is better than others, or a rawfood diet. But I do think that the matter is one of moderation - not eating huge quantities of beans in order to make up for that me*t that is no longer on the plate. My opinion. What I thought was interesting is that the article does succeed in debunking the whole protein myth ;=) If some of us still like to include beans and the rest of those 'high' protein foods in our diet, then perhaps the author of the article would think we were mistaken to do so, but the amount of protein in beans nowhere comes near that in fish or meat, according to this chart. I think those of us who like them can rest easy - provided we are careful and, as I say, use moderation here as in all things ;=) If anyone knows anything else about all this, I'd be pleased to hear it. Just as long as it doesn't, of course, recommend dead animals as any kind of subsitute LOL Best, Pat ;=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 >>>the matter is one of moderation ITA! vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 " Stuart Parker " <afusangite said, 'The original vegetarians of the western world (I believe Janism in India predates this), the Pythagorean order (yes -- the triangle guy) from the 6th century BCE until its demise in the Roman period practiced a variety of vegetarianism that prohibited beans, seeds and flowers. Because of the role of these things in the reproduction of plants, they felt that consuming these things also constituted " taking life. " ' LI find this interesting because it is just the opposite of the Biblical line that about seeds being the " meat of man " : Genesis 1:29, King James Bible: And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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