Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 I saw a column in " Vegetarian Times " (NOV-DEC) and I thought it was interesting. It was a general question for readers to respond to: " Are you for or against fake meat products (soy burgers, soy hot dogs, etc.)? " I personally like it because it is quick and easy. However, others pointed out that, if they don't like normal meat, then why would they want to taste a fake version of it. I thought that was a good point, and it actually made me think really hard about meat substitutes (I always said that I became a vegetarian because I didn't like the taste of meat; now I realize that I did it more because I don't like the idea of eating animals). So what do you think about meat substitutes and why? Reese3029 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 I thnk some folks get a little carried away and out of touch with the real world. Maybe would be healthier to eat all raw foods and drink only herbal tea and fruit juiices ( of couse other stuff like soy milk etc.) Probably are psychological anchors relating to the foods we enjoy but being hungry and having a veggie burger does nothing to me relating to want to eat meat ( if anything, in my opinion, it can help one realize how much better than meat it tastes and how much easier to diguest). Also the phase " whatever works " to becoming a vegetarian carries more weight than getting nitpicky. Being a vegan for four years I've had to hear alot of opinions from so called purists. Other topics include not wanting to eat a BK veggie burger because meat is broiled on the same racks or that they promote meat. For sure a good point I guess however If you're on the go and are hungry and you don't have your trail mix with what else are going to get in fast food that has the protein besides maybe a bean burrito with no cheese. It's fairly rare that I even stop at a fast food spot however there does come a time when the convenience and a busy schedual can outweigh other things. I agree with your " quick and easy " on the soy burgers. Ross reese3029 wrote: > >I saw a column in " Vegetarian Times " (NOV-DEC) and I thought it was >interesting. It was a general question for readers to respond >to: " Are you for or against fake meat products (soy burgers, soy hot >dogs, etc.)? " I personally like it because it is quick and easy. >However, others pointed out that, if they don't like normal meat, >then why would they want to taste a fake version of it. I thought >that was a good point, and it actually made me think really hard >about meat substitutes (I always said that I became a vegetarian >because I didn't like the taste of meat; now I realize that I did it >more because I don't like the idea of eating animals). So what do >you think about meat substitutes and why? >Reese3029 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Dear Reese, I also read that column in VT; meat analogs are not for me. I am not interested in eating something that " tastes like " beef, chicken or bacon. Though I am not vegan, I am thinking of not renewing my VT subscription, as the magazine seems to have taken a different approach to vegetarianism the past few months. A survey revealed that alot of the readers are not veg, but occasionally prepare veg meals, so the magazine is including more recipes with butter, cheese and other dairy products, to accommodate these readers. I read a newspaper article this past week about " flexitarians " - folks who are " flexible vegetarians " because they still eat fish or chicken. To this I say - (and please excuse me for shouting) - IF YOU EAT ANY KIND OF FLESH, YOU ARE NOT A VEGETARIAN. Ahem, off of my soapbox, end of rant Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 , kleelibby@w... wrote: > Though I am not vegan, I am thinking of not renewing my VT subscription, > as the magazine seems to have taken a different approach to > vegetarianism the past few months. A survey revealed that alot of the > readers are not veg, but occasionally prepare veg meals, so the magazine > is including more recipes with butter, cheese and other dairy products, > to accommodate these readers. As if they couldn't find dairy recipes elsewhere! Sheeeeesh!!! Yes, I was going to to VT - because I can't find copies easily since we've moved - but the last copy I bought was heavy on the dairy. I have no objection to vegetarians eating dairy, barring the health thingie, and I am myself not really vegan, but . . . Re Flexitarians: > To this I say - (and please excuse me for shouting) - IF YOU EAT ANY > KIND OF FLESH, YOU ARE NOT A VEGETARIAN. That echo you heard was me. No wonder the world is confused! Best, Pat ;=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 I love the pseudomeats and see no issue with them. I don't eat vegetarian chicken patties or veggie sausage because i want the flavor of chicken or sausage but because those meatless substitutes just taste really good! I also love them because i can substitute them into my non vegetarian families recipes and get them to see that their favorite meals can still be delicious without eating yucky animal flesh. I like it when i can make my husband a vegetarian chilli using seasoned tvp and he doesn't realize he's not eating meat until he's done and i tell him. If all i ate were rice and beans and vegetable dishes all the time, i can't see it persuading many of my friends to try going veggie... but when i make stir fry veggies with seasoned veggie chicken strips - they say - hey this isn't bad! ~~Morgan~~ Gabrielle and Faith's momma Pro-Life, Christian, Vegetarian www.fatspider.com - reese3029 Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:27 PM Pseudomeat I saw a column in " Vegetarian Times " (NOV-DEC) and I thought it was interesting. It was a general question for readers to respond to: " Are you for or against fake meat products (soy burgers, soy hot dogs, etc.)? " I personally like it because it is quick and easy. However, others pointed out that, if they don't like normal meat, then why would they want to taste a fake version of it. I thought that was a good point, and it actually made me think really hard about meat substitutes (I always said that I became a vegetarian because I didn't like the taste of meat; now I realize that I did it more because I don't like the idea of eating animals). So what do you think about meat substitutes and why? Reese3029 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 so the magazine is including more recipes with butter, cheese and other dairy products, to accommodate these readers. Is VT Vegetarian Times or Vegan Times? Or am I wrong on both counts? My point being, if it's Vegetarian not Vegan, what is the problem with recipes that include these products? Meet the all-new My – Try it today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 I agree that I do not usually care for meat analogs. However, my son recently took me to a wonderful Vietnamese vegetarian restaurent in San Francisco which was doing a very brisk business. They had a lot of vegetarian " meat " . I tried them out of curiosity, but ate very little because I am on a very low fat diet and did not know about the fat content. They had an odd texture--kind of gummy. I do admit that when I am in a hurry, I buy some of the " meat " soy products in our Coop deli case to make sandwiches because they are a source of low fat protein for me. With our Coop's bakery substantial whole grain bread, it is a satisfying lunch when I am in a huge hurry. Other than that I never use them. They all remind me of belogna with different colors and spices. Peace Kathleen I also read that column in VT; meat analogs are not for me. I am not interested in eating something that " tastes like " beef, chicken or bacon. Though I am not vegan, I am thinking of not renewing my VT subscription, as the magazine seems to have taken a different approach to vegetarianism the past few months. A survey revealed that alot of the readers are not veg, but occasionally prepare veg meals, so the magazine is including more recipes with butter, cheese and other dairy products, to accommodate these readers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Okayyyyy ;=) There's a difference between pseudomeat or fake meat or meat analog (whatever you want to call it) and veggie burgers (some of which of course may indeed be designed to taste meatlike, some not), tofu, seitan, tempeh, etc. etc. beanburgers, etc. All things that are in patty form are not pseudomeats, right? Right. That said, there's no reason at all why vegetarians or vegans should not eat pseudomeats if they like the taste of them. A vegetarian is one who does not eat meat, including poultry and fish/sealife; a vegan does not eat/use any animal products. Those restrictions aside, 'pretend' foods are not prohibited. If I carve (would that I could!) a watermelon in the form of a dragon (an unlikely form of meat, I agree) and later eat it or more likely destroy it, I have not done harm to anything but a watermelon (and perhaps my artistic ego) LOL There are, however, those who for religious reasons cannot and will not consume food that has been polluted by contact with meat - real meat, not pseudomeat. That must be respected and not put down by being thought of as some kind of fussiness that should be got over in a real world. Their world is a real world too ;=) Me? I figure if it's vegetarian (or vegan, if you prefer), eat it - but only if you like it. pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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