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I am anemic and some of my other levels are low so my doctor suggested I go to

the vitamin store

to pick up a good multivitamin. I settled on a vegetarian whole foods based

vitamin/mineral supplement.

The lady at the counter said her husband is also a vegetarian, but drinks milk

because he knows that

- get this - cows won't give milk unless they are happy. I said - yah that's a

nice theory - and she

said that no, she knew it was a fact because she used to own a dairy. The cows

really won't give

their milk unless they are happy. I didn't even know what to

say. What like all those dairy cows are skipping around the farm clicking their

hooves in joy?

Is there any grain of truth in this? Can cows refuse to give milk if they are

unhappy? It seems

ridiculous to me but just thought i'd ask.

 

 

~~Morgan~~

Gabrielle and Faith's momma

Pro-Life, Christian, Vegetarian

I will speak up for the little ones

www.fatspider.com

 

 

 

 

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Not only is it ridiculous, but shame on her for working at a health food store,

and being so ignorant!!, which shows me once again the sad state of nutritional

advice in this country!!!

 

Morgan <baby.gabrielle wrote:I am anemic and some of my other

levels are low so my doctor suggested I go to the vitamin store

to pick up a good multivitamin. I settled on a vegetarian whole foods based

vitamin/mineral supplement.

The lady at the counter said her husband is also a vegetarian, but drinks milk

because he knows that

- get this - cows won't give milk unless they are happy. I said - yah that's a

nice theory - and she

said that no, she knew it was a fact because she used to own a dairy. The cows

really won't give

their milk unless they are happy. I didn't even know what to

say. What like all those dairy cows are skipping around the farm clicking their

hooves in joy?

Is there any grain of truth in this? Can cows refuse to give milk if they are

unhappy? It seems

ridiculous to me but just thought i'd ask.

 

 

~~Morgan~~

Gabrielle and Faith's momma

Pro-Life, Christian, Vegetarian

I will speak up for the little ones

www.fatspider.com

 

 

 

 

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I totally agree - i wanted to say - well if that's what you have to tell

yourself to make it ok

for you to drink it...

 

Just doesn't fly with me tho ;)

 

~~Morgan~~

Gabrielle and Faith's momma

Pro-Life, Christian, Vegetarian

I will speak up for the little ones

www.fatspider.com

 

 

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Mark Jackson

Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:38 PM

Re: What a line/dairy question

 

 

Not only is it ridiculous, but shame on her for working at a health food

store, and being so ignorant!!, which shows me once again the sad state of

nutritional advice in this country!!!

 

Morgan <baby.gabrielle wrote:I am anemic and some of my other

levels are low so my doctor suggested I go to the vitamin store

to pick up a good multivitamin. I settled on a vegetarian whole foods based

vitamin/mineral supplement.

The lady at the counter said her husband is also a vegetarian, but drinks milk

because he knows that

- get this - cows won't give milk unless they are happy. I said - yah that's

a nice theory - and she

said that no, she knew it was a fact because she used to own a dairy. The cows

really won't give

their milk unless they are happy. I didn't even know what to

say. What like all those dairy cows are skipping around the farm clicking

their hooves in joy?

Is there any grain of truth in this? Can cows refuse to give milk if they are

unhappy? It seems

ridiculous to me but just thought i'd ask.

 

 

~~Morgan~~

Gabrielle and Faith's momma

Pro-Life, Christian, Vegetarian

I will speak up for the little ones

www.fatspider.com

 

 

 

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I am horrified that the person in the health food store was that ignorant.

 

First of all, milk is quite low in iron, so the reason Morgan went into the

store was definitely not addressed.

 

Second, I live in dairy country. They breed dairy cows to force them to

lactate. Then they take the babies aways from them at birth--they call them

" drop calves " . Since I live in a dairy area, I have heard the " drop calves "

being brought to market to be sold off. They go down the main street of our

city screaming for their mothers. I am sure the mothers are no happier--they

are down on that " happy " farm.

 

I still eat small amounts dairy, but this still bothers me. I try to buy

organic milk products [nonfat milk and nonfat yoghurt] since those producers do

treat their animals slightly better. I used to work with a woman who owned

organically raised dairy cows in our area.

 

Kathleen

Eureka, Humboldt County, California

 

Morgan <baby.gabrielle wrote:

I am anemic and some of my other levels are low so my doctor suggested I go to

the vitamin store

to pick up a good multivitamin. I settled on a vegetarian whole foods based

vitamin/mineral supplement.

The lady at the counter said her husband is also a vegetarian, but drinks milk

because he knows that

- get this - cows won't give milk unless they are happy. I

 

 

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Milk can actually promote anemia. Large quantities of milk can be

irritating to the stomach and thus cause bleeding. Just a few facts

on iron and iron absorption!! It is the acidity of the stomach which

promotes iron absorption in the intestines. If the stomach is not

acidic enough then adequate amounts of iron are not absorbed in the

intestines. People who take alot of antacids because their diet is

so poor can have problems. In healthy people the intestines control

the amount of iron that's absorbed. The body increases its rate of

iron absorption if reserves are low, and when the body becomes

saturated with iron, the rate of absorption decreases. If the

intestines do not, or cannot properly perform this regulatory

function,as can happen from excessive and prolonged alcohol intake,

the body can absorb toxic quantities.

 

A good food to eat which is extremely high in iron is

sunflower seeds. Sunflower seeds should always be eaten raw as

roasting them, with there large quantity of oil can be toxic to the

system.

 

 

 

, Kathleen Pelley

<kmpelley> wrote:

> I am horrified that the person in the health food store was that

ignorant.

>

> First of all, milk is quite low in iron, so the reason Morgan went

into the store was definitely not addressed.

>

> Second, I live in dairy country. They breed dairy cows to force

them to lactate. Then they take the babies aways from them at birth-

-they call them " drop calves " . Since I live in a dairy area, I have

heard the " drop calves " being brought to market to be sold off.

They go down the main street of our city screaming for their

mothers. I am sure the mothers are no happier--they are down on

that " happy " farm.

>

> I still eat small amounts dairy, but this still bothers me. I try

to buy organic milk products [nonfat milk and nonfat yoghurt] since

those producers do treat their animals slightly better. I used to

work with a woman who owned organically raised dairy cows in our

area.

>

> Kathleen

> Eureka, Humboldt County, California

>

> Morgan <baby.gabrielle@v...> wrote:

> I am anemic and some of my other levels are low so my doctor

suggested I go to the vitamin store

> to pick up a good multivitamin. I settled on a vegetarian whole

foods based vitamin/mineral supplement.

> The lady at the counter said her husband is also a vegetarian, but

drinks milk because he knows that

> - get this - cows won't give milk unless they are happy. I

>

>

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Thank you for this info! Just to clarify - the lady wasn't telling me to drink

milk,

but I think she was just trying to boost her image as a " veggie expert " because

her

husband is a lacto-vegetarian. I do not drink milk myself. I actually WAS a

lacto-

veggie until a few months ago when I developed an ulcer (i'm 26 - and very

healthy

so the doc attributed it to my taking a lot of motrin for a knee injury). My

stomach

feels much better as a vegan than it did as a lacto-veggie.

 

I will go pick up some sunflower seeds today! Thanks :)

 

~~Morgan~~

Gabrielle and Faith's momma

Pro-Life, Christian, Vegetarian

I will speak up for the little ones

www.fatspider.com

 

 

-

thesportsguru47

Wednesday, December 15, 2004 5:00 AM

Re: What a line/dairy question

 

 

 

Milk can actually promote anemia. Large quantities of milk can be

irritating to the stomach and thus cause bleeding. Just a few facts

on iron and iron absorption!! It is the acidity of the stomach which

promotes iron absorption in the intestines. If the stomach is not

acidic enough then adequate amounts of iron are not absorbed in the

intestines. People who take alot of antacids because their diet is

so poor can have problems. In healthy people the intestines control

the amount of iron that's absorbed. The body increases its rate of

iron absorption if reserves are low, and when the body becomes

saturated with iron, the rate of absorption decreases. If the

intestines do not, or cannot properly perform this regulatory

function,as can happen from excessive and prolonged alcohol intake,

the body can absorb toxic quantities.

 

A good food to eat which is extremely high in iron is

sunflower seeds. Sunflower seeds should always be eaten raw as

roasting them, with there large quantity of oil can be toxic to the

system.

 

 

 

, Kathleen Pelley

<kmpelley> wrote:

> I am horrified that the person in the health food store was that

ignorant.

>

> First of all, milk is quite low in iron, so the reason Morgan went

into the store was definitely not addressed.

>

> Second, I live in dairy country. They breed dairy cows to force

them to lactate. Then they take the babies aways from them at birth-

-they call them " drop calves " . Since I live in a dairy area, I have

heard the " drop calves " being brought to market to be sold off.

They go down the main street of our city screaming for their

mothers. I am sure the mothers are no happier--they are down on

that " happy " farm.

>

> I still eat small amounts dairy, but this still bothers me. I try

to buy organic milk products [nonfat milk and nonfat yoghurt] since

those producers do treat their animals slightly better. I used to

work with a woman who owned organically raised dairy cows in our

area.

>

> Kathleen

> Eureka, Humboldt County, California

>

> Morgan <baby.gabrielle@v...> wrote:

> I am anemic and some of my other levels are low so my doctor

suggested I go to the vitamin store

> to pick up a good multivitamin. I settled on a vegetarian whole

foods based vitamin/mineral supplement.

> The lady at the counter said her husband is also a vegetarian, but

drinks milk because he knows that

> - get this - cows won't give milk unless they are happy. I

>

>

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I understood that, thank you. You are welcome to join my site where

I discuss how to eat to stay healthy and become younger. It is called oddly

enough.....becomingyounger. Oh a great dip by the way is mixing ground up

sunflower seeds with fresh home made salsa. A great way to eat sunflower seeds.

I like it anyway!! MARK

 

Morgan <baby.gabrielle wrote:Thank you for this info! Just to

clarify - the lady wasn't telling me to drink milk,

but I think she was just trying to boost her image as a " veggie expert " because

her

husband is a lacto-vegetarian. I do not drink milk myself. I actually WAS a

lacto-

veggie until a few months ago when I developed an ulcer (i'm 26 - and very

healthy

so the doc attributed it to my taking a lot of motrin for a knee injury). My

stomach

feels much better as a vegan than it did as a lacto-veggie.

 

I will go pick up some sunflower seeds today! Thanks :)

 

~~Morgan~~

Gabrielle and Faith's momma

Pro-Life, Christian, Vegetarian

I will speak up for the little ones

www.fatspider.com

 

 

-

thesportsguru47

Wednesday, December 15, 2004 5:00 AM

Re: What a line/dairy question

 

 

 

Milk can actually promote anemia. Large quantities of milk can be

irritating to the stomach and thus cause bleeding. Just a few facts

on iron and iron absorption!! It is the acidity of the stomach which

promotes iron absorption in the intestines. If the stomach is not

acidic enough then adequate amounts of iron are not absorbed in the

intestines. People who take alot of antacids because their diet is

so poor can have problems. In healthy people the intestines control

the amount of iron that's absorbed. The body increases its rate of

iron absorption if reserves are low, and when the body becomes

saturated with iron, the rate of absorption decreases. If the

intestines do not, or cannot properly perform this regulatory

function,as can happen from excessive and prolonged alcohol intake,

the body can absorb toxic quantities.

 

A good food to eat which is extremely high in iron is

sunflower seeds. Sunflower seeds should always be eaten raw as

roasting them, with there large quantity of oil can be toxic to the

system.

 

 

 

, Kathleen Pelley

<kmpelley> wrote:

> I am horrified that the person in the health food store was that

ignorant.

>

> First of all, milk is quite low in iron, so the reason Morgan went

into the store was definitely not addressed.

>

> Second, I live in dairy country. They breed dairy cows to force

them to lactate. Then they take the babies aways from them at birth-

-they call them " drop calves " . Since I live in a dairy area, I have

heard the " drop calves " being brought to market to be sold off.

They go down the main street of our city screaming for their

mothers. I am sure the mothers are no happier--they are down on

that " happy " farm.

>

> I still eat small amounts dairy, but this still bothers me. I try

to buy organic milk products [nonfat milk and nonfat yoghurt] since

those producers do treat their animals slightly better. I used to

work with a woman who owned organically raised dairy cows in our

area.

>

> Kathleen

> Eureka, Humboldt County, California

>

> Morgan <baby.gabrielle@v...> wrote:

> I am anemic and some of my other levels are low so my doctor

suggested I go to the vitamin store

> to pick up a good multivitamin. I settled on a vegetarian whole

foods based vitamin/mineral supplement.

> The lady at the counter said her husband is also a vegetarian, but

drinks milk because he knows that

> - get this - cows won't give milk unless they are happy. I

>

>

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Thanks - i would like to join - i will look it up.

I am always interested in learning how to eat

healthier! Nutrition is one of my biggest

interests :)

 

Thanks!

 

~~Morgan~~

Gabrielle and Faith's momma

Pro-Life, Christian, Vegetarian

I will speak up for the little ones

www.fatspider.com

 

 

-

Mark Jackson

Thursday, December 16, 2004 4:18 AM

Re: Re: What a line/dairy question

 

 

I understood that, thank you. You are welcome to join my site

where I discuss how to eat to stay healthy and become younger. It is called

oddly enough.....becomingyounger. Oh a great dip by the way is mixing ground up

sunflower seeds with fresh home made salsa. A great way to eat sunflower seeds.

I like it anyway!! MARK

 

Morgan <baby.gabrielle wrote:Thank you for this info! Just to

clarify - the lady wasn't telling me to drink milk,

but I think she was just trying to boost her image as a " veggie expert "

because her

husband is a lacto-vegetarian. I do not drink milk myself. I actually WAS a

lacto-

veggie until a few months ago when I developed an ulcer (i'm 26 - and very

healthy

so the doc attributed it to my taking a lot of motrin for a knee injury). My

stomach

feels much better as a vegan than it did as a lacto-veggie.

 

I will go pick up some sunflower seeds today! Thanks :)

 

~~Morgan~~

Gabrielle and Faith's momma

Pro-Life, Christian, Vegetarian

I will speak up for the little ones

www.fatspider.com

 

 

-

thesportsguru47

Wednesday, December 15, 2004 5:00 AM

Re: What a line/dairy question

 

 

 

Milk can actually promote anemia. Large quantities of milk can be

irritating to the stomach and thus cause bleeding. Just a few facts

on iron and iron absorption!! It is the acidity of the stomach which

promotes iron absorption in the intestines. If the stomach is not

acidic enough then adequate amounts of iron are not absorbed in the

intestines. People who take alot of antacids because their diet is

so poor can have problems. In healthy people the intestines control

the amount of iron that's absorbed. The body increases its rate of

iron absorption if reserves are low, and when the body becomes

saturated with iron, the rate of absorption decreases. If the

intestines do not, or cannot properly perform this regulatory

function,as can happen from excessive and prolonged alcohol intake,

the body can absorb toxic quantities.

 

A good food to eat which is extremely high in iron is

sunflower seeds. Sunflower seeds should always be eaten raw as

roasting them, with there large quantity of oil can be toxic to the

system.

 

 

 

, Kathleen Pelley

<kmpelley> wrote:

> I am horrified that the person in the health food store was that

ignorant.

>

> First of all, milk is quite low in iron, so the reason Morgan went

into the store was definitely not addressed.

>

> Second, I live in dairy country. They breed dairy cows to force

them to lactate. Then they take the babies aways from them at birth-

-they call them " drop calves " . Since I live in a dairy area, I have

heard the " drop calves " being brought to market to be sold off.

They go down the main street of our city screaming for their

mothers. I am sure the mothers are no happier--they are down on

that " happy " farm.

>

> I still eat small amounts dairy, but this still bothers me. I try

to buy organic milk products [nonfat milk and nonfat yoghurt] since

those producers do treat their animals slightly better. I used to

work with a woman who owned organically raised dairy cows in our

area.

>

> Kathleen

> Eureka, Humboldt County, California

>

> Morgan <baby.gabrielle@v...> wrote:

> I am anemic and some of my other levels are low so my doctor

suggested I go to the vitamin store

> to pick up a good multivitamin. I settled on a vegetarian whole

foods based vitamin/mineral supplement.

> The lady at the counter said her husband is also a vegetarian, but

drinks milk because he knows that

> - get this - cows won't give milk unless they are happy. I

>

>

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